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This is mostly a copy/paste of a thread on the RSOF my friend wrote up that him and I compiled data on concerning which we thought would be best for killing Nex, posting it here since the only forum he uses is RS, and I figure we'd get more useful debates here at Tipit.

 

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There has been continuous discussion and massive change in what is considered the "best" way to gear up and kill Nex, but now that FT has occurred and her drop table is worth in excess of 15b, it has become realistically profitable to kill her once again. (Assuming a little more GE movement, or very trustable teammates)

 

Therefore I feel its time to really start culminating real information instead of hearsay and wishful thinking.

 

For the purpose of the thread we're going to discuss elite gear, since the idea is to get as small of a team as possible while still being efficient.

 

Many things must be discussed;

 

1)Bolts, Ruby vs Diamond

2)Special Weapon

3)Gear, many many many options

_a)Hybrid, Karils + v-helm + divine with c-maul

_b)Hybrid, Void range + melee helm + divine with c-maul

_c)Range Only, Void Range + Divine

_d)Range Only, Void Range + Pernix Body + Deflector

_e)Range Only, Full Pernix + Divine

 

 

1)Bolts

 

I've tested this a decent amount personally between me and a few friends. We've worn very similar gear and we're similar in skill level based on how many Nex kills we've ever done (to try to get as close as possible in number of ticks wasted due to skill)

 

So far we've seen no difference in the xp per kill between ruby and diamond bolts. That leads me to conclude pure diamond rather than ruby then diamond on zaros phase is better. Damage is a toss up, but why hurt yourself if you don't have to for faster kills?

 

This seems doubly certain if you decide the superior gear is range void as well due to the fact that ruby specs would still hit 500 white diamond specs would gain the damage boost. I have yet to test this theory personally but the math supports it.

 

Conclusion; Diamond if in void, Toss up if in karils/arma

 

 

2) Special Weapon

 

Claws for everyone except lurer regardless of gear, even if in range only set up. Dark bow for lurer appears the best and the consensus. I see no reason to dispute this at this time. Even pure range set up dark bow is not worth it due to the extra pot you'd be giving up for the dragon arrows and the extra complication of switching between ammo.

 

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Conclusion; Claws

 

 

3)Gear, many many many options

 

By the numbers,

 

a)Hybrid, Karils + Verac Helm + (Barrows) Gloves + Divine with Maul

 

Range Attack (Accuracy Guesstimate) : 206 (352)

Prayer Bonus : 11

Melee Attack/Strength Bonus : 28/20

Inventory Slots Open (Brews and Super Prayers) : 50

Pot Mix : 17 Super Prayer / 33 Brews ( 30925 Lp )

Max Hits : Diamond (e) : 390 (449), Maul : 576

Unicorn Lp : 5328

 

 

b)Hybrid, Void Range + Void Melee Helm + Divine with Maul

 

Range Attack : 149 + Void (325)

Prayer Bonus : 16

Melee Attack/Strength Bonus : 16/8 + Void

Inventory Slots Open : 49

Pot Mix : 15 Super Prayer / 34 Brews ( 31863 Lp )

Max Hits : Diamond (e) : 469 (540), Maul : 600

Unicorn Lp : 5328

 

 

c)Range Only, Void Range + Divine (W/ or W/o Void Melee Helm for Claw Spec)

 

Range Attack : 149 + Void (325)

Prayer Bonus : 16

Melee Attack/Strength bonus : 16/8 +/- Void

Inventory Slots Open : 51 or 50

Pot Mix : 15/16 Super Prayer / 35 Brews ( 32800 Lp )

Max Hits : Diamond (e) : 469 (540)

Unicorn Lp : 5328

 

 

d)Range Only, Void Range + Pernix Body + Deflector

 

Range Attack : 187 + Void (363)

Prayer Bonus : 10

Melee Attack/Strength Bonus : 16/8

Inventory Slots Open : 51

Pot Mix : 14 Super Prayer / 37 Brews ( 29304 Lp )

Max Hits : Diamond (e) : 469 (540)

Unicorn Lp : 6408

 

 

e)Range Only, Full Pernix + Divine

 

Range Attack : 237 (383)

Prayer Bonus : 11

Melee Attack/Strength Bonus : -4/8

Inventory Slots Open : 51

Pot Mix : 19 Super Prayers / 32 Brews ( 32256 Lp )

Max Hits : Diamond (e) : 390 (449)

Unicorn Lp : 7488

 

 

Conclusion; HARD to say, personal opinion places it between c and d based on accuracy guesstimates being guesstimates. Give up 10% of your longevity for what appears to be ~11% more accuracy seems like a decent trade off. Faster kills means you take less damage per kill anyway.

 

Opinion for now: D is best gear. C is a very close second for those with only 2b and not 4b.

 

 

3) Discussion on gear set up;

 

Assumptions made before the below arguments and above calculations,

 

1)Approx 3100 prayer is required BEFORE prayer bonus to last the average length of a team starting with 11 to 13 players.

 

2)Every set up is using the best possible equipment (ChaoticCrossbow/Fury/Ava's alerter/RangerBoots/OnyxRing(i)) not listed and taking 3 overloads + teleport + unicorn pouch + unicorn scroll + claws

 

3)To facilitate extremely rough guesstimates on accuracy we are going to assume two things, that a range level and an equipment bonus both contribute to accuracy equally and that void acts the same toward accuracy as strength (double for range for some reason)

 

4)We're assuming a conservative 24 minutes will pass from summoning unicorn to teleporting out (36 scrolls).

 

a)Hybrid, Karils + v-helm + (barrows) gloves + divine with c-maul

 

This appears to be the current consensus due to the fact that blood and zaros phase appear to be weak to crush. Its clean, the risk is very low due to karil's being worth minimal and there's no attack malus from the karils. I wish to contest this however. For now I will compare the below options to this.

 

b)Hybrid, Void range + melee helm + divine with c-maul

This is a very strong set up. If the crush weakness is true to a real noticeable extent then this may be the best method. My only issue with it is just how intense things get. In order to switch for blood phase you have to click maul then melee helm then attack nex then switch to piety. Then fix everything while running to glacias so you don't get ice prisoned. Seems VERY complicated.

 

Plus a few other points, when melee on blood and zaros you're divine is off, I cannot quantify this, but that reduces the amount of lp I calculated above by a small but noticeable amount. Especially blood phase since you pretty much take at least a few hits every kill that phase.

 

If however you are all about being hard core and going for broke and your skilled with hot keys and hybriding this is definitely the gear for you.

 

 

 

 

c)Range Only, Void Range + Divine

Excellent set up as well. May be best, but I give currently a close second. Whats my beef with maul? Well your in void, diamonds hit almost 500 at 5 speed and great accuracy anyway, specing for your 500s (against shield) almost as often as maul with only a moderately higher max hit (even though any hits over 500 will only deal 500 anyway)

 

As any good player knows, speed always wins unless extreme measures were taken to offset it. Like INSANE defense which one must admit nex really doesn't have, or the 300 damage pray switch like tormented demons. I would much rather hit 300s-400s at 5 speed than 350s to 450s at 4 speed. THIS IS ASSUMING YOU ARE EPIC DECKED OUT IN RANGE ATTACK. If you don't have archers (i)/onyx (i), ava's alerter, ranger boots, fury, ccbow, the whole deal, maul's accuracy prolly wins out.

 

 

d)Range Only, Void Range + Pernix Body + Deflector

My favorite for a lot of reasons. Its extremely uncomplicated. When you hit 800 lp, drink a brew. That simple. No switching cept for the initial claws spec which is uncomplicated. Accuracy just seems outta this world based on the numbers, while still having the significant void damage bonus.

 

All things considered you will be killing hundreds upon hundreds of Nex for drops, you don't wanna burn out. I feel this set up is extremely good to balance serious longevity, serious damage, while avoiding the burning out associated for hard core hybrid killing.

 

Also unicorn receives a heal bonus, making this probably second in longevity after the option below.

 

e)Range Only, Full Pernix + Divine

Ran the numbers outta curiosity. Depends entirely on how much diminishing returns there is from accuracy. If you hit 98% of the time cause your accuracy in outta this world it may take the cake. I'm not willing to blow the 6-7b on pernix to test it atm. You'd seriously last forever and ever when you factor in unicorn scrolls healing so much. I dont think 20 super prayers cuts it, though.

 

(I'll edit in any additional details later on if we come up with anything to post)

 

 

For now, this is what we have and what we think. If you think you have ideas on how to change something to be more optimal or wish to challenge something, by all means post it.

 

Discuss. (Because everyone likes putting that here now. :P)

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Smalll teams > large teams for gp/hr, though large teams have more common payout.

 

If you take, say, 12 mins for KC and 18 mins for a kill duo, that's 1 kill per person per hour (very optimistic of course). In a trio, you can shave a few minutes off the kill time, perhaps (assuming pernix + divine or something) do a second kill. If you can do one kill per 30 mins, it's still .75 kpph (possible), if you can do two per (50 minute) trip it's .8 kpph (doubtful). For quartets, 2 kills on a 45 min trip, it's 2/3rds, 3 kills in 60 mins it's .75.

 

So in your 11-13 player team, which apparently lasts one hour, you do ~72 minute trips including killcount, in which you need to get 10 kills to get close to a trio. I don't think 6 minute kills are the norm at all, with soul split healing etc.

 

I think in a small team, pernix + divine is definitely best (Woox mentioned in the trio vid description that he can't duo without it). In larger teams void becomes better as always.

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Opinion for now: D is best gear. C is a very close second for those with only 2b and not 4b.

 

How about for NORMAL people?

 

Normal people typically aren't accepted in these types of teams.

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Nex wasn't made to be killed by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

It's not even about being efficient. Nex is so powerful compared to what's available to us now that you need to have top tier skills and equipment to even consider trying to kill her (unless you're going with a massive team just for the experience value, and even then, it's been proven that a massive team of low level players doesn't necessarily work).

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Nex wasn't made to be killed by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

It's not even about being efficient. Nex is so powerful compared to what's available to us now that you need to have top tier skills and equipment to even consider trying to kill her (unless you're going with a massive team just for the experience value, and even then, it's been proven that a massive team of low level players doesn't necessarily work).

 

A bunch of low levels would just hit a stream of 0's

 

Ever been to castle wars, a level 120+ gets stacked on by a bunch of 70-80's all you see is 0's and maybe a few 1's and 2's (HP not LP)

 

(Not saying that 70's and 80's are teaming against nex just that a comparative low level vs high level thing was appropriate)

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Nex wasn't made to be killed by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

It's not even about being efficient. Nex is so powerful compared to what's available to us now that you need to have top tier skills and equipment to even consider trying to kill her (unless you're going with a massive team just for the experience value, and even then, it's been proven that a massive team of low level players doesn't necessarily work).

 

A bunch of low levels would just hit a stream of 0's

 

Ever been to castle wars, a level 120+ gets stacked on by a bunch of 70-80's all you see is 0's and maybe a few 1's and 2's (HP not LP)

 

(Not saying that 70's and 80's are teaming against nex just that a comparative low level vs high level thing was appropriate)

 

Okay, misinterpretation.

 

By low level I mean someone over level 125, but doesn't have Overloads, Yak, and top-tier gear.

 

If you're level 70 or 80 you probably won't survive kill count. >.<

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Nex wasn't made to be killed by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

It's not even about being efficient. Nex is so powerful compared to what's available to us now that you need to have top tier skills and equipment to even consider trying to kill her (unless you're going with a massive team just for the experience value, and even then, it's been proven that a massive team of low level players doesn't necessarily work).

 

A bunch of low levels would just hit a stream of 0's

 

Ever been to castle wars, a level 120+ gets stacked on by a bunch of 70-80's all you see is 0's and maybe a few 1's and 2's (HP not LP)

 

(Not saying that 70's and 80's are teaming against nex just that a comparative low level vs high level thing was appropriate)

 

Okay, misinterpretation.

 

By low level I mean someone over level 125, but doesn't have Overloads, Yak, and top-tier gear.

 

If you're level 70 or 80 you probably won't survive kill count. >.<

 

As I said Im just using the lvl 70-80 thing as an example.

 

But WOW 125 is low holy [cabbage] I'm in the 90's man that's unbelievable bro. :ohnoes:

 

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ideal for me is 5 man, no nex/div required.

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Nex has been trioed many times with wildly varying gear.

Haven't seen a duo since the safespot was removed but I'm sure that can be done using void or karils.

 

@The comment about normal people,

Karils+veracs+claws+fury, etc, should be standard for the average monsterhunter. As for shield, you have plenty of options, even down to just a DFS for some teams.

 

Yes it's a step up from ~30m corp gear but to fight a level 1001 you should expect that.

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I guess this is sort of relevant.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaJe6cF5L8

 

 

I've seen the video, although I'm not sure if my friend has. I'll pass it to him tomorrow, see what he has to say on it.

 

Very off topic but it would be great if they made it out alive after that DC :thumbup:

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Nex has been trioed many times with wildly varying gear.

Haven't seen a duo since the safespot was removed but I'm sure that can be done using void or karils.

 

@The comment about normal people,

Karils+veracs+claws+fury, etc, should be standard for the average monsterhunter. As for shield, you have plenty of options, even down to just a DFS for some teams.

 

Yes it's a step up from ~30m corp gear but to fight a level 1001 you should expect that.

 

I guess this is sort of blasphemous, as Black D'hide is generally considered welfare, but I honestly think it's as good of a choice as Karils is.

 

1) They both have the same ranged attack. Neither penalize your melee attack.

 

2) Karils has slightly better magic and ranged defense. Black D'hide has a very slight edge in melee defense.

 

3) All of Nex's attacks are very accurate. Nex uses ranged only during the Shadow phase, but uses melee attacks and magic attacks throughout the fight. Her mages also use magical attacks, but I'm pretty sure they're negated by prayer.

 

From here on I really only have personal observations to go by. I don't remember her ranged or magic attacks ever missing me. It's possible I didn't notice in the heat of the moment. However, I've watched several Nex videos, and I've noticed a similar trend with other players. On the other hand, Nex's melee attacks have definitely missed me a few times. Not very often, but at least once or twice per kill. Not only that, but she has a tendency of focusing on one player using several melee attacks during her last phase.

 

I feel that choosing Karils over black dragonhide is like using magic defense to stop Disrupt. The effects are pretty much non-existent. On the other hand, the melee defense might make a difference.

 

Nex's normal attacks don't do enough for soak to matter, either. Maybe this is only applicable when you're wearing a Divine (which seems to act before soak, making Soak useless until the monster does at least 285). Her special attacks ignore both Divine and Soak, to my knowledge.

 

I can understand requiring Karils with a public team, to root out someone with high levels and utterly no experience and isn't willing to risk anything. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that there really isn't any benefit in wearing Karils or D'hide in terms of actual combat.

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Nex has been trioed many times with wildly varying gear.

Haven't seen a duo since the safespot was removed but I'm sure that can be done using void or karils.

 

@The comment about normal people,

Karils+veracs+claws+fury, etc, should be standard for the average monsterhunter. As for shield, you have plenty of options, even down to just a DFS for some teams.

 

Yes it's a step up from ~30m corp gear but to fight a level 1001 you should expect that.

 

I guess this is sort of blasphemous, as Black D'hide is generally considered welfare, but I honestly think it's as good of a choice as Karils is.

 

1) They both have the same ranged attack. Neither penalize your melee attack.

 

2) Karils has slightly better magic and ranged defense. Black D'hide has a very slight edge in melee defense.

 

3) All of Nex's attacks are very accurate. Nex uses ranged only during the Shadow phase, but uses melee attacks and magic attacks throughout the fight. Her mages also use magical attacks, but I'm pretty sure they're negated by prayer.

 

From here on I really only have personal observations to go by. I don't remember her ranged or magic attacks ever missing me. It's possible I didn't notice in the heat of the moment. However, I've watched several Nex videos, and I've noticed a similar trend with other players. On the other hand, Nex's melee attacks have definitely missed me a few times. Not very often, but at least once or twice per kill. Not only that, but she has a tendency of focusing on one player using several melee attacks during her last phase.

 

I feel that choosing Karils over black dragonhide is like using magic defense to stop Disrupt. The effects are pretty much non-existent. On the other hand, the melee defense might make a difference.

 

Nex's normal attacks don't do enough for soak to matter, either. Maybe this is only applicable when you're wearing a Divine (which seems to act before soak, making Soak useless until the monster does at least 285). Her special attacks ignore both Divine and Soak, to my knowledge.

 

I can understand requiring Karils with a public team, to root out someone with high levels and utterly no experience and isn't willing to risk anything. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that there really isn't any benefit in wearing Karils or D'hide in terms of actual combat.

 

You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

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Nex has been trioed many times with wildly varying gear.

Haven't seen a duo since the safespot was removed but I'm sure that can be done using void or karils.

 

@The comment about normal people,

Karils+veracs+claws+fury, etc, should be standard for the average monsterhunter. As for shield, you have plenty of options, even down to just a DFS for some teams.

 

Yes it's a step up from ~30m corp gear but to fight a level 1001 you should expect that.

 

I guess this is sort of blasphemous, as Black D'hide is generally considered welfare, but I honestly think it's as good of a choice as Karils is.

 

1) They both have the same ranged attack. Neither penalize your melee attack.

 

2) Karils has slightly better magic and ranged defense. Black D'hide has a very slight edge in melee defense.

 

3) All of Nex's attacks are very accurate. Nex uses ranged only during the Shadow phase, but uses melee attacks and magic attacks throughout the fight. Her mages also use magical attacks, but I'm pretty sure they're negated by prayer.

 

From here on I really only have personal observations to go by. I don't remember her ranged or magic attacks ever missing me. It's possible I didn't notice in the heat of the moment. However, I've watched several Nex videos, and I've noticed a similar trend with other players. On the other hand, Nex's melee attacks have definitely missed me a few times. Not very often, but at least once or twice per kill. Not only that, but she has a tendency of focusing on one player using several melee attacks during her last phase.

 

I feel that choosing Karils over black dragonhide is like using magic defense to stop Disrupt. The effects are pretty much non-existent. On the other hand, the melee defense might make a difference.

 

Nex's normal attacks don't do enough for soak to matter, either. Maybe this is only applicable when you're wearing a Divine (which seems to act before soak, making Soak useless until the monster does at least 285). Her special attacks ignore both Divine and Soak, to my knowledge.

 

I can understand requiring Karils with a public team, to root out someone with high levels and utterly no experience and isn't willing to risk anything. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that there really isn't any benefit in wearing Karils or D'hide in terms of actual combat.

 

You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

There's no point adding magic defense to try to stop a highly accurate magic attack (comparing it to the Disrupt spec by analogy). On the other hand, adding in melee defense by choosing d'hide may help block her melee attacks, which Soma has noted tend to actually miss.

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Nex has been trioed many times with wildly varying gear.

Haven't seen a duo since the safespot was removed but I'm sure that can be done using void or karils.

 

@The comment about normal people,

Karils+veracs+claws+fury, etc, should be standard for the average monsterhunter. As for shield, you have plenty of options, even down to just a DFS for some teams.

 

Yes it's a step up from ~30m corp gear but to fight a level 1001 you should expect that.

 

[spoiler=Lots of text]I guess this is sort of blasphemous, as Black D'hide is generally considered welfare, but I honestly think it's as good of a choice as Karils is.

 

1) They both have the same ranged attack. Neither penalize your melee attack.

 

2) Karils has slightly better magic and ranged defense. Black D'hide has a very slight edge in melee defense.

 

3) All of Nex's attacks are very accurate. Nex uses ranged only during the Shadow phase, but uses melee attacks and magic attacks throughout the fight. Her mages also use magical attacks, but I'm pretty sure they're negated by prayer.

 

From here on I really only have personal observations to go by. I don't remember her ranged or magic attacks ever missing me. It's possible I didn't notice in the heat of the moment. However, I've watched several Nex videos, and I've noticed a similar trend with other players. On the other hand, Nex's melee attacks have definitely missed me a few times. Not very often, but at least once or twice per kill. Not only that, but she has a tendency of focusing on one player using several melee attacks during her last phase.

 

I feel that choosing Karils over black dragonhide is like using magic defense to stop Disrupt. The effects are pretty much non-existent. On the other hand, the melee defense might make a difference.

 

Nex's normal attacks don't do enough for soak to matter, either. Maybe this is only applicable when you're wearing a Divine (which seems to act before soak, making Soak useless until the monster does at least 285). Her special attacks ignore both Divine and Soak, to my knowledge.

 

I can understand requiring Karils with a public team, to root out someone with high levels and utterly no experience and isn't willing to risk anything. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that there really isn't any benefit in wearing Karils or D'hide in terms of actual combat.

 

 

You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

There's no point adding magic defense to try to stop a highly accurate magic attack (comparing it to the Disrupt spec by analogy). On the other hand, adding in melee defense by choosing d'hide may help block her melee attacks, which Soma has noted tend to actually miss.

 

The problem is that Black D'hide has a stigma about it being welfare when I actually think it is better for some uses. I can afford Karils but it is way overpriced, and everyone insists it is better because of that.

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Nex wasn't made to be killed efficiently by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

This.

 

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You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

 

Essentially, yes. Her magic attack rarely, if ever, misses. Her melee attack misses uncommonly, but noticeably. Sacrificing melee defense for ranged defense seems kind of an odd choice.

 

Honestly, risk doesn't bother me. At one point I was tempted to wear a set of Armadyl blessed D'hide and join the teams that required Karils/Arma.

 

Karils has its uses, but I'm not sure Nex is one of them.

 

Nex wasn't made to be killed efficiently by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

This.

 

If you don't have at least max cash, you ain't Nexxin, son. At least not more than one kill.

 

 

o.O That's going a bit far I'd say. I've never had more than a 400m cash pile, and I'm only recently passing 2B bank value, but I've hunted Nex several times. Other than Pernix / more Chaotics, I have pretty much everything I need too...

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You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

 

Essentially, yes. Her magic attack rarely, if ever, misses. Her melee attack misses uncommonly, but noticeably. Sacrificing melee defense for ranged defense seems kind of an odd choice.

 

Honestly, risk doesn't bother me. At one point I was tempted to wear a set of Armadyl blessed D'hide and join the teams that required Karils/Arma.

 

Karils has its uses, but I'm not sure Nex is one of them.

 

Nex wasn't made to be killed efficiently by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

This.

 

If you don't have at least max cash, you ain't Nexxin, son. At least not more than one kill.

 

 

o.O That's going a bit far I'd say. I've never had more than a 400m cash pile, and I'm only recently passing 2B bank value, but I've hunted Nex several times. Other than Pernix / more Chaotics, I have pretty much everything I need too...

 

Nex is actually a boss which is a challenge.. like 2005 Jad challenging.

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You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

 

Essentially, yes. Her magic attack rarely, if ever, misses. Her melee attack misses uncommonly, but noticeably. Sacrificing melee defense for ranged defense seems kind of an odd choice.

 

Honestly, risk doesn't bother me. At one point I was tempted to wear a set of Armadyl blessed D'hide and join the teams that required Karils/Arma.

 

Karils has its uses, but I'm not sure Nex is one of them.

 

Nex wasn't made to be killed efficiently by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

This.

 

If you don't have at least max cash, you ain't Nexxin, son. At least not more than one kill.

 

 

o.O That's going a bit far I'd say. I've never had more than a 400m cash pile, and I'm only recently passing 2B bank value, but I've hunted Nex several times. Other than Pernix / more Chaotics, I have pretty much everything I need too...

 

Nex is actually a boss which is a challenge.. like 2005 Jad challenging.

 

Not really. She's actually not very difficult to anyone who's got a good amount of experience with faster-paced games. The hardest part is finding a good and trustworthy team to go with. :\

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You're saying her magic attack never misses, so choose d'hide?

 

Essentially, yes. Her magic attack rarely, if ever, misses. Her melee attack misses uncommonly, but noticeably. Sacrificing melee defense for ranged defense seems kind of an odd choice.

 

Honestly, risk doesn't bother me. At one point I was tempted to wear a set of Armadyl blessed D'hide and join the teams that required Karils/Arma.

 

Karils has its uses, but I'm not sure Nex is one of them.

 

Nex wasn't made to be killed efficiently by low levels who can't afford the best gear.

 

This.

 

If you don't have at least max cash, you ain't Nexxin, son. At least not more than one kill.

 

 

o.O That's going a bit far I'd say. I've never had more than a 400m cash pile, and I'm only recently passing 2B bank value, but I've hunted Nex several times. Other than Pernix / more Chaotics, I have pretty much everything I need too...

 

Nex is actually a boss which is a challenge.. like 2005 Jad challenging.

 

Not really. She's actually not very difficult to anyone who's got a good amount of experience with faster-paced games. The hardest part is finding a good and trustworthy team to go with. :\

 

It takes a good mass of 20 people 4 minutes to kill her...

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