Omnitec Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Ok, so I installed the new Java version (Update 24) and ever since Runescape has been going wrong. It plays ok for a time, and then on Chrome, I get whitescreened, and on Mozilla Firefox, black screened. The only way to fix it is to refresh the game, which is incredibly annoying. When I check my task bar, I can see multiple symbols for Java which when I highlight over them, they all disappear. It seems Java is turning itself off. This is what I get:[hide][/hide] I then went into my program files, and noticed I had 2 versions of Java, the update 24 and an update 20 (64-bit). I deleted both versions in case they were conflicting with each other, and then re-installed Java v.24. No luck, I keep getting black screened. Anyone have any idea of what I can do to stop Java dying? Another thing, when I reinstalled Java, I kept getting a popup saying Java runtime error that kept coming up even though I clicked ok. It stopped after 5 or so times. I have a Sony Vaio VPCEA3M1E Laptop if it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 A few thoughts: First off, this only appears to be happening to users who are on the New-Generation Java Plugin, as provided by Oracle/Sun. I'm sitting back on Java 6u6 with FF2-series, and I do not have this happening to me. Unluckily, Windows 7 means you can't go back that far, thanks to compatibility issues. (And neither would I normally suggest trying, but RuneScape tends to take exception due to somebody's failure at Jagex and/or Oracle/Sun, and only if someone is running Windows XP or earlier... so nobody try yelling at me about that... Yell at Jagex and/or Oracle/Sun, please.) Yeah, the RuneScape applet appears to be doing something that the New-Generation Java Plugin doesn't like, and so Java just up and goes AWOL... I agree, it's a nightmare. :wall: Second, and getting to something a bit more reasonable... Did you reboot between the deinstall/reinstall, as well as once after in order to make sure that files/registry/etc. were all in place? As memory serves, Oracle/Sun Java tends to have files/registry/etc. which it can only deal with while Windows isn't fully running. (This might have changed, but I really doubt it...) :huh: Third, could you please post up your system's specs here? I really hate the idea of having to go near Sony's site after all the bad things they've done. (Again, no going bonkers... Just my personal thoughts because of memories.) Heck, just a few screenshots from your DirectX Diagnostic Utility would help. Preferably the first tab, as well as the Display and Sound tabs. ;) Finally, if you've been getting any "hs_err_pid" files (possibly with numbers on the right end) after these black/white-screen issues, could you post up one or two of them as well? They normally tend to point as to where the initial fault is at, or at least point to one of the possible problems as a result of RuneScape trying to run with the recent Java versions. :-? ~D. V. "Ugh... Newer Java Versions, why do you plague us?!?" Devnull (p.s.: Noticing that you're in the UK, you could just go to Jagex's HQ and have some words with them... :twisted: ...) and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 A few thoughts: First off, this only appears to be happening to users who are on the New-Generation Java Plugin, as provided by Oracle/Sun. I'm sitting back on Java 6u6 with FF2-series, and I do not have this happening to me. Unluckily, Windows 7 means you can't go back that far, thanks to compatibility issues. (And neither would I normally suggest trying, but RuneScape tends to take exception due to somebody's failure at Jagex and/or Oracle/Sun, and only if someone is running Windows XP or earlier... so nobody try yelling at me about that... Yell at Jagex and/or Oracle/Sun, please.) Yeah, the RuneScape applet appears to be doing something that the New-Generation Java Plugin doesn't like, and so Java just up and goes AWOL... I agree, it's a nightmare. :wall: False. I ran Java 1.5 update 22 (aka Java 5u22) on Windows 7 without any problems at work. I currently have Java 6 update 23 and I am not having any troubles with RS. I could make the upgrade to see if I get the problem too and solve it. Is your graphics driver up to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnitec Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Oops, sorry, here are specs: [hide]General Information Processor Intel® Core i3-370M Processor- 2.40 GHz- 2.5 GT/s DMI- 3MB L3 CacheOperating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bitRAM - 4GB installed DDR3 SDRAM- 1066 MHz speed- PC3-8500 memory specification- 8GB maximum RAM capacityGraphics card Intel® HD GraphicsScreen type Widescreen LCDScreen resolution - WXGA- 1366 x 768Screen size 14"Screen features VAIO DisplayHard drive 320 GBSATA5400 rpmOptical disk drive DVD SuperMulti DriveMemory card reader Memory Stick Slot(s): Memory Stick Duo x1, SD memory card x1USB 3 x USB 2.01 x e-SATA/USB PortFireWire NoModem/Ethernet 1 x RJ-45 1000BASE-T/100BASE-TX/10BASE-TWi-Fi IEEE 802.11b/g/nBluetooth Bluetooth standard Ver. 2.1+EDRVideo interface 1 x HDMI1 x VGA OutputAudio interface Headphone and external microphone jacksTV output 1 x HDMI (digital video/audio)1 x VGA (analogue video)Extension card slot 1 x 34mm ExpressCard slotSound - Built-in stereo speakers- Built-in mono microphone- Dolby Codec: Dolby Home Theater® v3Webcam VGA resolution (640 x 480 pixels) Motion Eye® webcamKeyboard & Mouse Multi-gesture touchpadBattery VGP-BPS22 Li-IonAdditional features Instant OnQuick Web AccessSpecial Buttons: WEB Button, VAIO, AssistKensington Security SlotAccessories included Adaptor, power cord, documentationSoftware included Solution Portal(VAIO Gate), Photo/Video(PMB VAIO Edition), Multimedia(Media Gallery), Home Network(VAIO Media plus), Support(VAIO Care), Utilities(VAIO Transfer Support), Office Application(Adobe Reader,Microsoft Office 2010 Starter), Security & Backup(McAfee 60 day trial,Norton Online Backup), SONY Tools(Remote Keyboard with PlayStation 3,Remote Play with PlayStation 3)Size Height: 27 mmWidth: 346 mmDepth: 239 mmWeight 2.35kg[/hide] I rebooted after the uninstall, but not before it. Also i'm not getting any hs_err_pid files anywhere that I can see during running. Graphics driver is up to date as far as i'm aware, haven't had any notifications. Does the RS client involve using Java, considering it wouldn't need a plug-in as it'd be an independent system not based off my browser? Thanks :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <<<Quote Snip>>> False. I ran Java 1.5 update 22 (aka Java 5u22) on Windows 7 without any problems at work.I'm rather glad to hear of this. I thought certain os-related things in Windows 7 blocked usage of that old a Java version. :o (Sadly, anyone running FireFox 3.6.4+ definitely can't use anything before Java 6u10... Dang Mozilla. -.- ...) <<<Massive Quote Snip>>> Does the RS client involve using Java, considering it wouldn't need a plug-in as it'd be an independent system not based off my browser? Thanks :thumbsup: From what I remember (albeit my memory might be faulty) the RuneScape Jmods saying, if it thinks your local Java install is working, it will try to use that. Otherwise, it uses the OpenJDK Java distro that comes as part of the RS Client's own package. :-s ~D. V. "Grr... Java headaches..." Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Just for clarification, I do not play Rs at work, I use the JDKs as I work in the Java field. I am current though in technologies and am using the newest Betas/RCs of Firefox (currently 4RC1 I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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