Larinro Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Recenetly got my maul and now im left wondering which places I should use it over rapier at, Obviously rapier is the better choice for most slayer tasks but apart from slayer im lost. So, simply reply which to use where + why if possible. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Waterfiends, pvp, and or nex/sara gwd. rapier for everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 For the most part - if you think about hunting something, look it up on wiki and usually (at least for whatever I've checked), they state the monster's "weakness" (in terms of style) You're right in that for the most part, rapier is good for slayer (that stab/slash combo is great) Some things that crush is strong against:waterfiendsblack demonsabberant spectreswyverns Also, it's a nice weapon to use against TD's apparently It's also pretty good for Pest Control :P But I doubt you'd be using it for that. Sorry if this wasn't exactly what you were looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 For the most part - if you think about hunting something, look it up on wiki and usually (at least for whatever I've checked), they state the monster's "weakness" (in terms of style) You're right in that for the most part, rapier is good for slayer (that stab/slash combo is great) Some things that crush is strong against:waterfiendsblack demonsabberant spectreswyverns Also, it's a nice weapon to use against TD's apparently It's also pretty good for Pest Control :P But I doubt you'd be using it for that. Sorry if this wasn't exactly what you were looking for No. You would never, ever use a maul on black demons or spectres. Waterfiends, yes; wyverns, yes if you're maxed combat and using a cannon. It's great for TDs. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 black demons are weak to everything, and you should never ever listen to the weakness listed on runescape wiki because it is wrong 99% of the time. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Lol @ black demons being weak to crush Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larinro Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hmm thanks that helped alot actualy, but for tds which one is better because i saw mixed opinions there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 black demons are weak to everything, and you should never ever listen to the weakness listed on runescape wiki because it is wrong 99% of the time. are most things posted on rs wiki actually wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Put it this way: the suggested way to kill black dragons mentioned a rune halberd. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 black demons are weak to everything, and you should never ever listen to the weakness listed on runescape wiki because it is wrong 99% of the time. are most things posted on rs wiki actually wrong?Most of their objective info (ex. black demons have X hp, and are located at Y) is correct. I use it a lot for stuff like this. I wouldn't follow any sort of guides or suggestions listed there however. In this case, I think they are totally wrong. However, if perhaps black demons ARE slightly more weak to crush, it still isn't worth using any crush weapons because they all suck compared to rapier. Wiki rarely takes these kinds of efficiency calculations into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hmm thanks that helped alot actualy, but for tds which one is better because i saw mixed opinions there. I do very well with a rapier there, but the thing about killing TDs is that a player's effectiveness at killing them is determined a lot by their playstyle. Some people can't handle fast item switching, or want to swap pieces of void and switch offensive prayers between each attack. Some people can do all that and maintain speed with a rapier, others need to use a slower weapon to do so. There isn't really a right answer because the 'ideal' configuration which probably includes switching offensive prayers for each attack, going between a 1h and 2h weapon, and swapping void is very infeasible for most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Yeah, I'm simply too lazy to use a rapier at TDs. Without using a defender with it, you're looking at almost the exact same DPS as a maul AND you have to switch much faster (which means less room for error which means more DPS lost to screwing up). With the defender that's an extra click in an already long set of clicks and even more time to screw up and start losing effectiveness (if your equipment switch isn't done by the time you can attack again, you wasted time and would have been better off with a slower weapon). Maul is nice and easy, but assuming perfect clicks every time a rapier and defender would get them dead faster. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisn11 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hmm thanks that helped alot actualy, but for tds which one is better because i saw mixed opinions there. I'd say the maul will be better, as with high level potions you can hit high amounts such as 600+. Since the demons change pray every 310lp, you'd have basically skipped a style switch due to your massive hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larinro Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Alright thanks guys the tds stuff makes sence. How about bandos/zam and different time sizes seeing as i would think one would be supirior to the other for differnt sized teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Zamorak: rapier (+ defender if you want all out dps). Graardor: rapier + defender small teams & solo, maul large (4+) teams. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendettas Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Maul for living rock creature tasks, if i recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Maul for living rock creature tasks, if i recall correctly.No way. I was calculating myself at over 170k melee experience per hour with a rapier on a LRC slayer task - no way a maul could beat this. They seem to have slightly high slash defence, but almost no stab or crush defence, meaning the faster weapon is always better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Maul for living rock creature tasks, if i recall correctly. LRC have absurdly low defense. No. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Maul for living rock creature tasks, if i recall correctly. while living rocks are technically weakest to crush, there is literally NO crush weapon in game worth using over something more efficient (rapier/whip) Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Damn this thread! Now I want a maul for TDs as well! Ah well. I'll see how well I do there once I have a rapier. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neogilgamesh Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 A monster's official weakness is the type of attack it has the lowest maximum defence roll against. The thing is, for most monsters, the maximum defence rolls for the other styles are not high enough to warrant deviating from your highest damage output weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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