Don't bother wasting energy Jaffy. Bottom line is: they're not willing to pay for music if they can get away with not paying for it. This has nothing to do with morals, or whether something is technically theft or not. If these usually self-described "music lovers" want to drown in their own hypocrisy by stealing money that rightfully belongs to the bands who make the music, and the record companies who invest in those bands, then let them.
They probably won't change their ways until a stick comes along to threaten them, no matter how much you tear their arguments apart, but the unpoliced nature of the Internet makes this somewhat difficult.
The difference between plagiarism and music piracy is simple: Plagiarism gets you kicked out of uni with no chance of earning a degree thereafter. Music piracy might get you a slap on the wrist from your ISP.
No no no.
Like I said my mate actually works in the music industry and another in a band. They don't care. I don't care. I still give around 600-800pounds to bands by going to gigs/festivals. As well as the dumb ammount of moeny I spend seeing DJs.
You might want to believe whatever you want, end of the day I've never owned more than 30 albums. That's THREE HUNDRED pounds. WTF?? For 30 albums. No. I simply can't afford that, I listen to at least 20 - 30 albums a lot in one month. That means if I buy it I can;t eat. As it is the music industry is outdated. They need to change and the sooner they realise the better.
Also yeah I couldn't give a crap if crappy singers that can't give a good live performance and lose millions on this. They suck, they throw out the same junk all the time.
Don't call me a "music lover" like that. Without knowing you I'm still fairly sure in saying I probably love it more than you. I literally listen to music or paly it all the time, every fri and sat I go clubbing. Everytime any decent DJ/Bands on somewhere near I'll go in the week.
Bottom line is, I wouldn't have listened to half the bands I do, therefore nor would my friends, therefore we'd have less reason to go to a festival if they were playing, therefoooore they lose money. Simples.
I give more to artists by pirating than I would if I didn't.
Oh and once again, I've actually chatted to fairly famous bands/ my friend produces them and kows about the "buissness" side and my friends in a soon to probably succesful band. They don't care.