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First, a public perception comparison....

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Blizzard is known for its hardline attitude on bots (and a real anti bot program along with the game client)...and it shows. You can see that Jagex actually did a good job suppressing bots since 2007 until the free trade disaster recently while WOW has kept it under control ALL THE TIME.

Note on 3rd graph: search for "World of Warcraft bots" don't even trend, but "wow bots" actually INFLATES it abit since it does lead to other strange things

 

And because I got flamed last time by using google trends, here's all Alexa data for actual traffic. Note the still very unhappy RS trend toward lower traffic on ALL timescales. Very disturbing is the 23% drop in REACH. It's probably the best measurement of new players finding RS.

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NOTE on WOW's web traffic data: Since WOW players do not have to go throgh blizzard's site to go in game or check on news I realize this is a very bad measurement of actual WOW popularity. Included for reference only. The big peaks are from diablo 3 and starcraft 2.

 

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PS: In other news, RS GP has managed to drop to $1/million....


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I think it has been established there are tons of bots in RuneScape. Especially as of late. I don't need graphs to tell me when I could just go to world 7 and look at some yew trees. rolleyes.gif

 

Also, I don't care about WoW or that it has less bots than RuneScape. Hence me not on WoW forums...


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I think it has been established there are tons of bots in RuneScape. Especially as of late. I don't need graphs to tell me when I could just go to world 7 and look at some yew trees. rolleyes.gif

 

Also, I don't care about WoW or that it has less bots than RuneScape. Hence me not on WoW forums...

Well, the thing with WoW was to show that when they say they have bot detection methods / etc... They mean it. It show's in the graphs above.

 

When Jagex says they've upped their anti-bot systems and that they've really cracked down on them... Well... LMFAO. G-g-g-gaaarbaaage.


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....................................

again, really?


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Runescape having a lot of bots available isn't really news anymore. And who would have though that client-based game written in C has less bots than Java-coded browser game. #-o


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Yeah its much easier to make a bot tht can run in a java applet than a bot that can run in c+ software.

 

Also note how these results are heavily skewed as you can clearly see all the top results are FORUM POSTS about botting not sites giving away bots. All thoose graphs show is more rs people talk about/care about botting as an issue.


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Yeah its much easier to make a bot tht can run in a java applet than a bot that can run in c+ software.

 

Also note how these results are heavily skewed as you can clearly see all the top results are FORUM POSTS about botting not sites giving away bots. All thoose graphs show is more rs people talk about/care about botting as an issue.

Unless the top 9000 results are all forum posts (or other similair things) your statement isn't true :P

 

I think the difference between 371 and 9330 results is good enough to say that runescape has a lot more problems with bots then WOW, nothing new really.


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Yeah its much easier to make a bot tht can run in a java applet than a bot that can run in c+ software.

 

Also note how these results are heavily skewed as you can clearly see all the top results are FORUM POSTS about botting not sites giving away bots. All thoose graphs show is more rs people talk about/care about botting as an issue.

Unless the top 9000 results are all forum posts (or other similair things) your statement isn't true :P

 

I think the difference between 371 and 9330 results is good enough to say that runescape has a lot more problems with bots then WOW, nothing new really.

 

Not really.

All it shows are more website hits on the topic.

For all we known 200/371 WoW results are actual bot sites and note forum posts while 100/9330 runescape ones are actual bot sites.

Plus there the obvious issues between the differences of runescape.com and battle.net.

Afterall most if not all runescape related websites will cite runescape.com somewhere; but WoW is a disc based game and not widely associated with the battle.net website in the same way which would produce more hits for rs than wow in such a test.


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Its a good thing that the Alexa stats are down for RuneScape. It means more and more players are removing the piece of crap toolbar they use to generate their data.


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Back in our 8th grade high school Maths lessons, we learnt that statistics like the ones in the original post don't mean a thing.


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scientifically proven that robots will take over the earth. 800k+ already plotting against us.


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I guess it does say something, but those statistics can easily be biased. In RuneScape, for example, it revolves around training skills. That is why botting is more of a problem than in World of Warcraft. Sure there's skills, but it isn't the same as in RuneScape. In RuneScape it's more repetitive I guess you can say. This makes bots more plausible for people and thus, makes more of a problem.

 

So the amount of bots can be the same, but it affects people in RuneScape more.

 

And no, I won't deny the increased bot-busting techniques that World of Warcraft employs. They have the advantage because their game isn't browser based and they have their own client. Not to mention it costs more, so that in itself is a turn-off for many potential botters.


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Try using the right keywords to generate an unbiased response.

 

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The only REASON there are less bots is the risk factor. It costs in excess of over £50+ for all games and expansions now, let alone the monthly fee. That's a lot more to risk than a FREE BROWSER game or £3 if you are a member.

 

Runescape requires thousands of hours of grinding, WoW does not.

 

I guarantee you their detection methods are just as fail, but the bots are a lot more advanced as well.


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Yes... we know that there are more bots in rs before wildy returned. So what?

Really needed to make more threads like this?

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Bots will exist forever in every online game.

 

Suck it up.

 

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I just wrote in: bots site:worldofwarcraft.com and got 13900 results. Am I pro at statistical analysis now?


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Perhaps our discussion point should not be the (rather obvious) issue of whether or not there's more botting in Runescape now than previously before.

 

The issue is really, inasmuch as Jagex seems unwilling or unable to act against them, what becomes of the game when, eventually, it all turns into "botscape"?


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Or address the highly naive and misled viewpoint many hold that there are bots in rs therefore jagex are not doing anything about them.


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Or address the highly naive and misled viewpoint many hold that there are bots in rs therefore jagex are not doing anything about them.

 

Orly? And what, pray-tell is Jagex doing about them? :rolleyes:


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Or address the highly naive and misled viewpoint many hold that there are bots in rs therefore jagex are not doing anything about them.

 

Orly? And what, pray-tell is Jagex doing about them? :rolleyes:

 

The stat resets, the bannings, the lawsuits against bot sites the various bot detection systems etc.


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