jjjon123 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Is it worth it? I will eventually get sighted bow for f2p pking so it wont be the only use I'll use it on tasks where there are lots of said monster such as pollniviech and others to get the task done in record speed. Just wanted to know if +50 atk (over rcbow) is noticeable in the long run 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyw3000 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 rapier still has higher bonus doesnt it? cannon accuracy is based off highest atk bonus, not range bonus i believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 rapier still has higher bonus doesnt it? cannon accuracy is based off highest atk bonus, not range bonus i believe um yeah? and how can you beat +140 range accuracy for only 10k tokens. 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 While that is true - you have to take into account your slower kill speedA rapier will still be better then a sighted longbow - the extra accuracy (and higher cannon hits) < the loss in dps in not using melee However, this might be a good thing to look into if you're ranging your tasks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Probably not worth it considering how slowly the sighted mage bow kills stuff. The difference between that and better range/melee weapons would be far greater then the slightly increased accuracy, imo. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayayemeees Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 If a cannon is your main source of damage, this could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 It's only the best for 9/10 hp pures as ranged is easy to train with a cannon & sighted bow is available quite early & is most accurate. Otherwise, stick with your personal tools of onslaught. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 The whole point is to uber plow through tasks in multi-combat zones with lots of monsters nearby such as pollniveach slayer dungeon task and similar. And yes the cannon would be the primary damaging weapon. When doing these types of tasks the rcbow doesnt even make a dent in the speed. 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Since when was cannon accuracy dependent on your range bonus... Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Even in cannon heavy tasks, a rapier will still deal around 30% of the damage. It's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existent Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Since when was cannon accuracy dependent on your range bonus...It depends on the attack bonus of the style of attack you are using. For Example: If using magic, it depends on your magic attack bonus. If using stab, it depends on your stab attack bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm pretty sure that as long as I remember, cannons are totally separate from your attack bonuses. Range lvl, nor range attack bonus has any effect on cannon's hits and accuracy... EverWhen did they chance it? Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 No. Cannon accuracy is based off your attack bonus. [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm pretty sure that as long as I remember, cannons are totally separate from your attack bonuses. Range lvl, nor range attack bonus has any effect on cannon's hits and accuracy... EverWhen did they chance it?I think Zarfot popularised the idea that cannons use your active gear bonus, but I doubt you can ask him how he found out. I noticed it when my handcannon blew up at frost dragons. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articultural Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm pretty sure that as long as I remember, cannons are totally separate from your attack bonuses. Range lvl, nor range attack bonus has any effect on cannon's hits and accuracy... EverWhen did they chance it?I think Zarfot popularised the idea that cannons use your active gear bonus, but I doubt you can ask him how he found out. I noticed it when my handcannon blew up at frost dragons. It was first proven by Villandra when she was getting 99 Slayer at 10hp. Before then there had been speculation but it was dismissed as no one had thoroughly tested it enough and no mathematical evidence had been provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 It's not worth it. The 12 range attack bonus you could have over ccb+book is trivial and will not make a significant difference, but the suckyness of the bow is nontrivial. You would basically need a better compromise the two, and for ranged that would be karils or hcannon and for melee it would be rapier or cls. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captivates Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 10k tokens is ridiculously quick to come by...and believe me in f2p situations it would ABSOLUTELY be worth it, hits accurately on any defence level no matter how bad your gear nerfs your range bonus. But as far as using it to speed up kills, it's a no. Just go ahead and get the sight in your free time tho :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 10k tokens is ridiculously quick to come by...and believe me in f2p situations it would ABSOLUTELY be worth it, hits accurately on any defence level no matter how bad your gear nerfs your range bonus. But as far as using it to speed up kills, it's a no. Just go ahead and get the sight in your free time tho :) having a bow sighted is only good if you're f2p (didn't even know it worked in f2p)otherwise - it sucks. how does a sighted long bow hit accurately on any defense level regardless of your gear?unless youre fighting level 2 men in full rune, it most certainly makes a difference.it explains the whole reason that people hybrid - they change not only the weapon but the armor as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captivates Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 10k tokens is ridiculously quick to come by...and believe me in f2p situations it would ABSOLUTELY be worth it, hits accurately on any defence level no matter how bad your gear nerfs your range bonus. But as far as using it to speed up kills, it's a no. Just go ahead and get the sight in your free time tho :) having a bow sighted is only good if you're f2p (didn't even know it worked in f2p)otherwise - it sucks. how does a sighted long bow hit accurately on any defense level regardless of your gear?unless youre fighting level 2 men in full rune, it most certainly makes a difference.it explains the whole reason that people hybrid - they change not only the weapon but the armor as well With a sighted maple longbow youre able to hit frequently on people in full rune in f2p. Even if they have 80+ defence.Also with it's high range bonus it allows you to wear heavier 'non-range' like gear such as rune fullhelm + chain + legs and still hit acurrately. If you've ever used one you would certainly notice the difference.But yes, youre right in p2p i dont even bother using a sighted mage longbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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