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Sleep Deprivation = torture

Forced Gold Farming in lieu of sleep = funny.

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Oh -- yeah -- how silly of me. Everyone's innocent in prison, right? :rolleyes:

Not all penal systems are the same, and considering that China has about 10x the number of "politically subversive" prisoners that the US has you can't make a direct comparison. And despite that, the number of human's rights violations by the Chinese Penal system is extensive: "The Chinese penal system, which lacks a fair judicial process, employs an extensive network of forced labor camps in order to “reform” criminals through labor. Its purpose, however, is to remove political opposition from society while simultaneously improving the economy. Worse, as an institutional tool for the government to stifle political opposition, the penal system almost inevitably employs the use of both physical and psychiatric torture. In such a penal system, torture is justified as a means to secure confessions and the compliance of political dissidents. In the absence of due process and improper criminal procedures, coupled with the enticement of profit-making, prisoners are susceptible to illegal organ harvesting and trafficking globally."

China's human rights record is appalling. APPALLING! The actions they commit against their own people in the name of law and order is absolutely gawd-awful. On the scale of one to 10, with one being the worst and 10 being the most lenient – "forcing" prisoners to play video games is, roughly, one-million-and-six.

 

On a scale of world-wide issues – ranging from world peace, the Arab Spring, the death of bin Laden, the world economic crisis, flooding, tornadoes, earthquakes, the Sudan, Israel/Arab relations and everything else – not to mention that the rapture is coming on May 21, 2011 October 21, 2011 – a news story that, some FOUR YEARS AGO, the Chinese were "forcing" prisoners to play video games for money, isn't even a distant BLIP on the radar of what is newsworthy or of any concern, at all.

 

Jesus Christ, people, get some PERSPECTIVE already ...

The thing is they aren't REPLACING the coal mining with gold farming, the gold farming is IN ADDITION to everything else. So it's more like "Sleep? After an entire day of exhausting physical labor? Lol no, just play video games until you can no longer see straight and then go back to the mines. Sleep is for the dead."

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On the contrary, it's a hilarious situation. You've got murderers, rapists and goodness-knows what other types of known criminals who, instead of being punished through hard-labour, are now all huddled in front of computer screens playing video games -- and complaining about it ...

 

:rolleyes:

By day they did physical stuff, and by night (12 hours of forced gaming). And if they didn't do their job according to the demands the people above them asked, they would be punished physically.

 

Yes, i agree with you Bly, they have a blast in those prisons. We should go commit a crime!

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I'm pretty sure a one-way trip to such a prison in China can be arranged for those people who accuse the Chinese judicial stystem of being too easy on the convicted.

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Point is:

 

Waterboarding is torture. Being beaten with a rubber hose is torture. There's a long list of things that are torture.

 

Playing a video-game is not on that list. Nor will it ever be.

 

... and four year old news is four year old news the world continues to spin on its axis unabated ...

 

There's been a lot of other more newsworthy stories come and gone since then, and none of them are a concern with your gaming experience.

 

Tell me is your life changed dramatically, in any way whatsoever, by discovering that those poor Chinese inmates were being made to play video games four years ago? Really? No. Really? No.

 

Didn't think so.

 

Fricken drama-queens every one of you ...

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Clearly Blyaunte has no idea what she's talking about.

 

These people suffer through hard labour during the day, and are forced to play World of Warcraft until their eyes bleed by night. If they don't comply, they're going to get physically beaten. But hey, videogames are fun, right?

 

Oh, and don't tell me these prisoner deserve this because they're convicted criminals. China isn't exactly known for having a just and fair legal system.

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It's not the playing of video games that's considered torture, it's the sleep deprivation. Video games is merely the method they use to achieve this.

 

The fact that it's old news doesn't take away its discussion value either.

 

EDIT: @post above, even if they are convicted they still don't deserve to be tortured.

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Point is:

 

Waterboarding is torture. Being beaten with a rubber hose is torture. There's a long list of things that are torture.

 

Playing a video-game is not on that list. Nor will it ever be.

 

... and four year old news is four year old news – the world continues to spin on its axis unabated ...

 

There's been a lot of other more newsworthy stories come and gone since then, and none of them are a concern with your gaming experience.

 

Tell me – is your life changed dramatically, in any way whatsoever, by discovering that those poor Chinese inmates were being made to play video games four years ago? Really? No. Really? No.

 

Didn't think so.

 

Fricken drama-queens – every one of you ...

Playing a video game in itself is not torture, no. Physically at least. In this case the 12 hour shift of gold farming, coupled with the extreme lack of sleep, does count as psychological torture, which yes can be just as damaging as physical torture. And yes there are more newsworthy stories, and no my life won't be directly affected by this. But it won't be directly affected by an earthquake in Japan, or flooding in Pakistan, or a war in Libya either; just because the earth keeps spinning and nature remains indifferent to our mortal suffering that does not make this story unimportant. Perhaps this is the wrong forum, it doesn't directly apply to us here in relation to the runescape community, but that doesn't excuse your dismissal of damaging psychological treatment.

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Clearly Blyaunte has no idea what she's talking about.

 

These people suffer through hard labour during the day, and are forced to play World of Warcraft until their eyes bleed by night.

 

Hyperbole MUCH? :lol:

 

Who writes your stuff? Glenn Beck?

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Clearly Blyaunte has no idea what she's talking about.

 

These people suffer through hard labour during the day, and are forced to play World of Warcraft until their eyes bleed by night.

 

Hyperbole MUCH? :lol:

 

Who writes your stuff? Glenn Beck?

 

"If I couldn't complete my work quota, they would punish me physically. They would make me stand with my hands raised in the air and after I returned to my dormitory they would beat me with plastic pipes. We kept playing until we could barely see things,"

 

Perhaps their eyes aren't bleeding, but they sure aren't in pristine condition.

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Beating them when they don't make quota is just inefficient. A proper punishment would be to make them play longer.

 

This. We should run a shop here at Tip.it, maximizing gold farmers efficiency.

 

Inject them with Moutain Dew!

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Point is:

 

Waterboarding is torture. Being beaten with a rubber hose is torture. There's a long list of things that are torture.

 

Playing a video-game is not on that list. Nor will it ever be.

 

... and four year old news is four year old news the world continues to spin on its axis unabated ...

 

There's been a lot of other more newsworthy stories come and gone since then, and none of them are a concern with your gaming experience.

 

Tell me is your life changed dramatically, in any way whatsoever, by discovering that those poor Chinese inmates were being made to play video games four years ago? Really? No. Really? No.

 

Didn't think so.

 

Fricken drama-queens every one of you ...

 

It's because of complacency that this is allowed to continue. The point in stories like this is to get people aware of how a previously assumed innocuous activity is being perverted by the equivalent of human trash. The forced labor for Runescape gold through physical and psychological torture is, in effect, no different than the blood diamond trade through Africa, or how there has been rampant suicide at the iPad manufacturing plant because of how bad the conditions are. All for luxury goods. Stories like this are to show that there is a reason to stop gold buying other than the easily dismissed reasons (in-game economy, health of community, etc). It's to make the buyers say "is my playing gold really worth some guy getting beaten with a pipe somewhere because he didn't make quota?"

 

Gold farming is an interesting economy, because it's one of the few where the gold farmers bluntly [bleep] over the consumer, and yet the amount of gold traded (estimated) continues to rise each year. Look at World of Warcraft, Rift, Aion, and the other top MMOs and you'll see rampant account theft by gold farmers looking to clear the accounts or use them as mules and spambots. How many times have you heard in Runescape of people getting their accounts stolen and then banned for real world trading?

 

We must rely on the developers to make it such a living hell for gold farmers and botters that the practice is no longer economically viable. And I know what you're going to say "oh they'll just put them back on physical labor." They're already doing physical labor, this is just in addition. You knock out gold farming in prisons, and what does that mean? It means a prisoner at least gets to sleep. It's extra time that they may eat, or even have some down time. It's less beatings because they aren't meeting quota. It doesn't fix the situation, but it makes it that much better.

 

Fixing labor camps is out of our league, out of Jagex's league, and out of Blizzard's league. This is something those of us who have the freedom need to elect people into positions of power to enforce. But we can do our part to at least stifle the trade, making potential buyers aware of what they are supporting by handing over their credit card number/paypal/account for power leveling. It must be approached from both sides, the consumer and the distributor.

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Point is:

 

Waterboarding is torture. Being beaten with a rubber hose is torture. There's a long list of things that are torture.

 

Playing a video-game is not on that list. Nor will it ever be.

 

... and four year old news is four year old news the world continues to spin on its axis unabated ...

 

There's been a lot of other more newsworthy stories come and gone since then, and none of them are a concern with your gaming experience.

 

Tell me is your life changed dramatically, in any way whatsoever, by discovering that those poor Chinese inmates were being made to play video games four years ago? Really? No. Really? No.

 

Didn't think so.

 

Fricken drama-queens every one of you ...

This entire post is so full of [cabbage]. I really don't know where to begin. First of all it wasn't "Playing a video game" that is the problem, it was the combined effect of sleep deprivation, manual labour (day time) along with hours and hours being stuck to a computer screen. They were also assaulted if they did not meet the quota.

 

First of all, you can never possibly imagine what these people went through, so "playing a video-game" is a major understatement. I cannot imagine how can anyone can find the conditions described in these prisons even tolerable. I don't want to resort to name calling but I do not believe that you were at all serious when you made this post and I am certain that you are a troll.

 

And and we are not allowed to examine this issue just because it has no impact on our lives? You are asking us to turn a blind eye against what is clearly the case of human rights violation? Criminals or not, they do not deserve to be living under such conditions.

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@Blyuante I've seen your posts on TEF and TIF previously and had some fair respect for your opinions I doubt you care but whatever. Any it has now all been lost, your refusal to consider this a serious is abhorrent people with opinions like you is why a country like China will be able to continue to commit heinous human rights crimes. You might say that the Chinese government is too powerful but consumer pressure can do amazing things and everybody is a consumer of Chinese products. Personally I have been studying Chinese history for 3 years now and I can honestly say it is one of the most disgusting countries in the world far, far worse than the USSR was and anything related to the Chinese should be a much higher priority than a bearded maniac!

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I just find it kind of hilarious TBH -- this image of chubby bloated couch potato-esque prisoners being "forced" to play computer games -- as opposed to the physical demand of hard labour ...

 

:lol:

Did you even read the article?

 

Why yes, as a matter of fact I did -- didn't you? Shall I read it for you?

 

Once upon a time in a land far far away, there was this place where bad people went and they banged rocks, fletched chopsticks, read books and played video games. It was all such hard work.

 

The end.

 

:rolleyes:

 

Satire does not become the situation at all. This is a major problem which the public has had at least an idea of in the past - where people who were either poor or enslaved had to do stuff like this.

 

Truthfully I thought that China had "outlawed" the sale of virtual gold. If prisons are doing this, then it's a pandemic that can't be stopped by simply going to the Chinese government [again] and asking nicely.

 

On the contrary, it's a hilarious situation. You've got murderers, rapists and goodness-knows what other types of known criminals who, instead of being punished through hard-labour, are now all huddled in front of computer screens playing video games -- and complaining about it ...

 

:rolleyes:

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Others have said more about the state of Chinese prisoners before, so I'll leave you to read/re-interpret that as you will.

 

Consider that playing a video game may not seem like torture to either you or me. But being made to play it, day in and day out with no break, and the prospect of being punished should you come short of your digital goal, can seem like a form of torture. The problem is that there's such a huge disconnect between what we perceive as torture and what others are made to endure - playing a game you really don't want to play, not even for fun, does seem pretty harsh.

 

Oh, and they're also doing this in addition to physical menial labor. That's what it said in the article. ;)

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Blyaunte, anything can be toture if someone is forced to do it for many hours.

 

TRY STARING at a computer for 12 hours BECAUSE you must be efficient to deliver game currency otherwise you will be punished.

 

You should stop acting like you have in this topic. It's not cool.

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Fixing labor camps is out of our league, out of Jagex's league, and out of Blizzard's league. This is something those of us who have the freedom need to elect people into positions of power to enforce. But we can do our part to at least stifle the trade, making potential buyers aware of what they are supporting by handing over their credit card number/paypal/account for power leveling. It must be approached from both sides, the consumer and the distributor.

 

I usually cringe when people suggest IP bans, but in this case I think it would be called for.

 

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Point is:

 

Waterboarding is torture. Being beaten with a rubber hose is torture. There's a long list of things that are torture.

 

Playing a video-game is not on that list. Nor will it ever be.

 

... and four year old news is four year old news – the world continues to spin on its axis unabated ...

 

There's been a lot of other more newsworthy stories come and gone since then, and none of them are a concern with your gaming experience.

 

Tell me – is your life changed dramatically, in any way whatsoever, by discovering that those poor Chinese inmates were being made to play video games four years ago? Really? No. Really? No.

 

Didn't think so.

 

Fricken drama-queens – every one of you ...

This entire post is so full of [cabbage]. I really don't know where to begin. First of all it wasn't "Playing a video game" that is the problem, it was the combined effect of sleep deprivation, manual labour (day time) along with hours and hours being stuck to a computer screen. They were also assaulted if they did not meet the quota.

 

First of all, you can never possibly imagine what these people went through, so "playing a video-game" is a major understatement. I cannot imagine how can anyone can find the conditions described in these prisons even tolerable. I don't want to resort to name calling but I do not believe that you were at all serious when you made this post and I am certain that you are a troll.

 

And and we are not allowed to examine this issue just because it has no impact on our lives? You are asking us to turn a blind eye against what is clearly the case of human rights violation? Criminals or not, they do not deserve to be living under such conditions.

 

 

I can't help but to agree with you - well said.

 

Clearly Blyaunte did not read the article, or did not read it close enough.

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Point is:

 

Waterboarding is torture. Being beaten with a rubber hose is torture. There's a long list of things that are torture.

 

Playing a video-game is not on that list. Nor will it ever be.

 

... and four year old news is four year old news – the world continues to spin on its axis unabated ...

 

There's been a lot of other more newsworthy stories come and gone since then, and none of them are a concern with your gaming experience.

 

Tell me – is your life changed dramatically, in any way whatsoever, by discovering that those poor Chinese inmates were being made to play video games four years ago? Really? No. Really? No.

 

Didn't think so.

 

Fricken drama-queens – every one of you ...

 

Actually I do believe the earth's axis got tilted due to the Japan earthquake. So it hasn't continued spinning on it's axis unabated.

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On the contrary, it's a hilarious situation. You've got murderers, rapists and goodness-knows what other types of known criminals who, instead of being punished through hard-labour, are now all huddled in front of computer screens playing video games -- and complaining about it ...

 

 

Okay, let's use you as a real-life example. You've been out all day cycling, then instead of bed you are told to spend 12 hours at the concentrated coal rocks in the LRC. 3 toilet breaks, and you've got to be as efficient as possible to reach a specific quota. You play until you can barely see. Exhausted, you slump onto the screen. You are smacked round the back of the head with a drainpipe, and told to carry on. You do, but not so well. You get beaten for 10 minutes afterwards with plastic pipes until you collapse on the floor.

 

You remain exhausted.

 

Video games are not pleasant in this situation. Indeed it would be illegal here in the west to do anything similair-it constitutes a 'cruel and unusual punishment'. Removal of human rights etc. Sadly, this is china, where it's not just your liberty that's taken from you in a camp.

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I can't help but to agree with you - well said.

 

Clearly Blyaunte did not read the article, or did not read it close enough.

 

Stop pretending that anything you have to say is relevant. Really.

 

Because trading virtual currency for real cash is somewhat shady, the Chinese government introduced a directive in 2009 making it illegal for businesses to trade virtual currency unless they had a license. Dali was released from prison before this directive, but he believes that prisoners are still being exploited.

 

"Many prisons across the northeast of China also forced inmates to play games. It must still be happening," Dali told The Guardian.

 

Translation: I claim it happened -- so it must still be happening -- even though the authorities have taken action against it.

 

Am I the only person who's read the above quote? Really? I must be. The rest of you are running around with your arms flailing and mouths dangling open -- and you're all up about how terrible this whole thing is -- and all I can see is drama queens being drama queens making drama queens make drama.

 

This clown got out of jail four years ago -- got out of China lord knows how long ago (?) -- and now he's spilling his guts to anyone willing to write about him in the papers.

 

Old fricken news is old fricken news. It's so nice now that, prior to this story, none of you had a conscience about this issue -- and eight hours from now, most of you won't have one then either. You didn't give a rat's ass about the condition of Chinese prisons. If you did, you would've all donated your five bucks a month for Runescape membership to Amnesty International a long time ago, and stopped playing video games.

 

Don't blame me if this is the first time most of you have felt any tweaks of guilt and all I can do is point and laugh at you.

 

China's got a lot of things to answer for, sure. They've maltreated their prisoners. Sure. This is the least of them. For effing sure.

 

But you've also got to keep in mind a whole lot of other things:

 

1. China is a sovereign nation -- what they do within the confines of their own borders to their own people is their own business. If you don't agree with that, then let's open EVERYONE to scrutiny and take a look at how EVERYONE treats their prison population. You'd likely find this less appealing though -- some countries actually murder their own people in prisons and call it punishment.

 

2. The value of an individual's life, the rights that are determined to pertain thereto, varies from country to country. Don't expect any country with over a billion people in it -- to house, maintain and adjudicate -- to have the same concepts of "human rights" and values as your own Western democracy purports to have.

 

3. If the idea of "forcing" someone to play a video game is your idea of mistreatment -- then, you've a LOT to learn about the cruelty of the world ...

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