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Also with a pro task list you should only be doing three tasks in Kuradel. That means all your other tasks can be done with zerker ring. If you REALLY care then RoW switch. Really though, zerker increases your kills per hour which in turn increases your profits per hour and exp per hour. In the long term being high leveled sooner will profit more then a few torstol drops.

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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

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I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.

About the berserker ring, why would you not use it when you can still get the benefits of a RoW by switching to it for the killing blow? Especially when you were willing to pay more than 5x as much for the same str bonus in a bcp...


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A fury is a good all-round tool for bossing, slayer etc. and it's cheaper than bcp. But if you won't get a berserker ring and you won't bosshunt, then a bcp would be better to get first.
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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

TY everyone :thumbsup:


I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.


Can you explain the mathematics here? From my calculations, it only actually saves 11 and one-ninth percent.

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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

TY everyone :thumbsup:


I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.


Can you explain the mathematics here? From my calculations, it only actually saves 11 and one-ninth percent.


Its not math, its testing, it should only be 11.111111111 repeating of course% . I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong. Inb4jagexpatchesitandruinsmyprofits.


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Fury/Zerker ring > C rapier > Extremes/Overloads > 88/96 Summoning > 95 prayer > Bandos

Imo You should only consider getting bandos once you have all of the above and have a sustained cash pile. Remember if you need to sell an item to get something else, you cant afford it.
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Or he could buy the armour and sell it back once he needs something. :P
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Fury is definitly more convenient than a chestplate which can be easily replaced with an alternative. Same can be said with
fury to an extent. A glory over fury is a huge margin compared to something let's say, torags or dragon
plate over bandos.

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Fury Amulet is 10mil, giving +8 str bonus.
BCP is 18mil, giving +4 str bonus.

Taking into account that glory gives +6 str bonus, and assuming you dont have torso. A BCP has a lower gp/str bonus then a fury.

So if you are only slaying and you dont have torso, get BCP before Fury.
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Nobody states the fact that the fury also has a nice prayer bonus and really insane +15 to all
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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

TY everyone :thumbsup:


I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.


Can you explain the mathematics here? From my calculations, it only actually saves 11 and one-ninth percent.


Its not math, its testing, it should only be 11.111111111 repeating of course% . I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong. Inb4jagexpatchesitandruinsmyprofits.


It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).
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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

TY everyone :thumbsup:


I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.


Can you explain the mathematics here? From my calculations, it only actually saves 11 and one-ninth percent.


Its not math, its testing, it should only be 11.111111111 repeating of course% . I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong. Inb4jagexpatchesitandruinsmyprofits.


It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).

interesting, because when I make my juju pots, I never make the pot extra quick, but I do seem to have a fair chance at saving a herb.
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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

TY everyone :thumbsup:


I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.


Can you explain the mathematics here? From my calculations, it only actually saves 11 and one-ninth percent.


Its not math, its testing, it should only be 11.111111111 repeating of course% . I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong. Inb4jagexpatchesitandruinsmyprofits.


It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).


You receive a 1 in 8 chance that you make a potion twice as fast as usual You receive a 1 in 10 chance that you save a secondary ingredient when making any potion


You sir, are incorrect.


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I highly doubt the 20m~ I have can get me to extremes, so I bought a fury until I get a bigger cashpile and I will eventually sell the fury for extremes

TY everyone :thumbsup:


I think you can, with current herb prices and if you have Scroll of Cleansing (~10% cost-saving).


More than that, the SoC saves 12.5% of secondaries.


Can you explain the mathematics here? From my calculations, it only actually saves 11 and one-ninth percent.


Its not math, its testing, it should only be 11.111111111 repeating of course% . I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong. Inb4jagexpatchesitandruinsmyprofits.


It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).


You receive a 1 in 8 chance that you make a potion twice as fast as usual You receive a 1 in 10 chance that you save a secondary ingredient when making any potion


You sir, are incorrect.


If that is sourced from Runewiki or the KBase, I wouldn't take it with a grain of salt.

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I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong.






It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).


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Members only. Requires a Herblore level of 49 and a Dungeoneering level of 55. Once used, the scroll will disappear, giving you the following permanent effects:

You receive a 1 in 8 chance that you make a potion twice as fast as usual
You receive a 1 in 10 chance that you save a secondary ingredient when making any potion


Source: http://www.runescape...wards#cleansing

You sir, are incorrect.


1/8 = 12.5%

Your argument is quoting a source that you explicitly state to be wrong on this matter, and call him wrong for something that mathematically works out to be true according to your own testing. (Either that or quoting some other source that likely quoted the KB in the first place and at any rate has the same information as the KB which you explicitly state to be false.)

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I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong.






It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).


Scroll of cleansing - 20k tokens


Members only. Requires a Herblore level of 49 and a Dungeoneering level of 55. Once used, the scroll will disappear, giving you the following permanent effects:

You receive a 1 in 8 chance that you make a potion twice as fast as usual
You receive a 1 in 10 chance that you save a secondary ingredient when making any potion


Source: http://www.runescape...wards#cleansing

You sir, are incorrect.


1/8 = 12.5%

Your argument is quoting a source that you explicitly state to be wrong on this matter, and call him wrong for something that mathematically works out to be true according to your own testing. (Either that or quoting some other source that likely quoted the KB in the first place and at any rate has the same information as the KB which you explicitly state to be false.)


Besides, it's not like Jagex could mix something up in the KBase, could they?

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I always end up getting over 10% of my herbs/secondaries back.

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I've personally cleaned and made into unf pots over 10 k lants in the last 2 days and its produced 12.5% more potions. Meaning once again the KB is wrong.






It is, and always has been, a 1 in 8 chance of saving a secondary, and a 1 in 10 chance of making the potion extra quick (in one tick).


Scroll of cleansing - 20k tokens


Members only. Requires a Herblore level of 49 and a Dungeoneering level of 55. Once used, the scroll will disappear, giving you the following permanent effects:

You receive a 1 in 8 chance that you make a potion twice as fast as usual
You receive a 1 in 10 chance that you save a secondary ingredient when making any potion


Source: http://www.runescape...wards#cleansing

You sir, are incorrect.


1/8 = 12.5%

Your argument is quoting a source that you explicitly state to be wrong on this matter, and call him wrong for something that mathematically works out to be true according to your own testing. (Either that or quoting some other source that likely quoted the KB in the first place and at any rate has the same information as the KB which you explicitly state to be false.)


Besides, it's not like Jagex could mix something up in the KBase, could they?

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I said the KB is wrong. He quoted me in his response so I assumed he meant it as a contradiction to me saying the KB is wrong. We agree here so let's not argue.


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If you have a fighter torso, then fury. Otherwise you're probably better off with a BCP unless you use pros to slay.




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