andufusthebronze Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 After reading the '5 Worst People' thread, I got wondering. What kinds of thing make someone a bad person?What groups of people would you consider bad people?Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Someone who infringes on the rights of others for their own gain or for amusement. Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Most people got into that top 5 thread by genocide. So, yeah, the urge to commit genocide tends to be a less desirable quality. Basically any desire to cause harm to another person for whatever reason would make someone more bad of a person, though not necessarily a bad person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Uhm, what do you mean "groups of people?" Also, based on this video and larger considerations I've been considering whether there really is, or should be, a "good-bad" dichotomy based on morality. Certainly there are harmful people, and people who commit horrifying acts that the world would be better without, but "bad" is not universal and the notion that some people are just plain "bad" can lead to potential disasters. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 A bad person is someone who's own deeds affect others in a negative way. Even when unaware. -Someone who steals from others.-Insults others for no apparent reason other then self gratification.-Vandalizes or destroys property without just cause.-Bragging and putting down others.-Rude to other people.-Playing favorites. Treating a specific group of people (or person) better than another group of people.-Using personal status to manipulate others less fortunate. For instance, giving money tothe homeless in exchange for doing something humiliating or dangerous.-Exploiting an opportunity. Selling out, Blackmailing, etc. On the contrary, someone who's deeds DON'T affect others directly can be bad in a way too, for ex: -Someone who's lazy. -Stupid and tries to not admit and fix it. (denial)-People who do not take things for granted. (Someone who complains that: they always eat veggies fordinner, their car gets scratched and damaged all the time, arguing when people are only trying to help you.)-A celebrity, jock, or any high stature person who is smug and denies his or her flaws. Only admits perfection.-A person who has no dignity. Always chasing celebrities, favors only one type of music/T.V./games. Extremes can be bad too. Even when some are perceived as "good". -Being too kind. Some may think it's only for the sake of gaining praise.-Too honest. Nobody wants to hear an opinion that'll offend them.-Getting very good grades/ having a very good job/ having tons of friends...May put other's down, arose jealousy,and in the worse case scenario, it may threaten you.-Someone who is completely selfless. Neglecting your own comforts is just as bad or even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 -Getting very good grades/ having a very good job/ having tons of friends...May put other's down, arose jealousy,and in the worse case scenario, it may threaten you. I agreed with everything else on your list except this. Having all those things doesn't make you bad, but bragging about it, showing it off (as you said above), is bad. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaah Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 -Getting very good grades/ having a very good job/ having tons of friends...May put other's down, arose jealousy,and in the worse case scenario, it may threaten you. I agreed with everything else on your list except this. Having all those things doesn't make you bad, but bragging about it, showing it off (as you said above), is bad. Bragging about it or being jealous of someone else for those things. Jealousy, not good. Of course, by that list, I'm a bad person. But I don't mind. /FG/First thread post to when I joined the family.[hide=Insert rant here]blahblahblahLIFE[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksknight9 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 the notion that some people are just plain "bad" can lead to potential disasters. That's where you get the idea for genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyfura Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 How is only favoring one style of musik a bad quality? I mean, I have a couple genres I enjoy...but as long as ppl can respect genres they don't enjoy, I see no problem. "Don't get in my face, don't invade my space. I'll put you in your place.I'll only tell you once, I'll never tell you twice. This is me being nice." ~Porcelain and the Tramps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Anyone who is a detriment to the progress of society Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Anyone who is a detriment to the progress of society Progress of society is so loaded and so subjective to the society you live in. Certainly in germany in 1940 there were many within society that thought that the holocaust was bad but didnt speak up because they would have been seen as a detriment to their society. At the end of the day social opinions dont make someone good or bad, its whether you impede on someone elses rights. Not to sound corny but I will quote what I think are "inalienable" rights that you probably have heard a million times (now a million and one) throughout your life. Life [obviously murders are bad in any culture]liberty [lots of examples of majorities tyrannizing people. Classic one is women in the middle east, I would call their oppressers evil.]property [anyone who steals or harms your property, whether its your stuffed animal or your physical body is bad]ability to pursue happiness [bullies, this ties into liberty a lot of the time too. Arguably women in the middle east suffer from this, or minorities who are blocked because of discrimination] A list of the worst people in history are the ones who broke these principles to the greatest degree. I meant those that harm others intenetionally, while bringing no greater benefit Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I don't tend to think that people are either 'bad' or 'good', but rather some people have more negative traits than others. I don't see a false dichotomy between 'good' and 'evil' as generally being any different to this thread. The thing about saying 'detrimental to society' is that as far as the NSDAP were concerned, killing six millions Jews as well as blacks, gays, socialists and other political activists was to advance their idea of society ruled and controlled by the Volksgemeinschaft. Surely intentions and motives should be condemned, but their intentions were good as far as they were concerned. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiant36 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Anyone who doesn't like Star_Fox's sig is a bad person. Check out my RS streaming channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Everyone is a bad person who does good things, not a good person who does bad things. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Everyone is a bad person who does good things, not a good person who does bad things. For once I agree with you, Y Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeor Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Not liking bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Not liking baconCall me the next Hitler then. I don't hate it, and BLTs are pretty good, I just don't really like it http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 always puts themselves before othershates a group of people for no reasondoesn't care about the lives of others or their safetysees no problem with hurting otherscommits genocide as a leadertries to act superior to others when they are notkidnaps children (Joseph Kony)attempts to take advantage of othersWe all commit wrongful acts, but those who constantly do it, do it at a massive degree, or are a major threat to others are the primary "bad" people. Even though, as Y_guy we are all bad people in a sense. [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Someone who is truly "good" cannot do anything bad. Since we all do bad things, being truly "good" is impossible.. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Isn't it more useful to think of 'good' as a spectrum rather than a black-and-white adjective. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 More useful, perhaps. Not really accurate, however. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Someone who is truly "good" cannot do anything bad. Since we all do bad things, being truly "good" is impossible..By that same logic shouldn't someone who is truly "bad" be incapable of doing anything good? And if everyone is bad originally, as you say, wouldn't that make every person on earth the devil incarnate since they're all unable to do good deeds? http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Someone who is truly "good" cannot do anything bad. Since we all do bad things, being truly "good" is impossible.. I think the sum of all your actions are the guiding line here. Perhaps each good action is worth one point (perhaps more depending on what it is and why you do it), and a bad action is -1 - ∞ (whatever the worst action is worth) So 90% of the time I am good, so +1 at a time for each good action, and then I kill someone. I think that particular action puts me in the negative. However lets say I have a lot of money, and I take most of that money and help kids in Africa and through my efforts I save 1000's of lives. But then I get charged with a felony for embezzlement, or perhaps cheat on my wife/gf, etc., I would say that despite the lie I would be a good person.The problem is that the scale in question varies from person to person, culture to culture, and circumstance to circumstance; that's why I said I don't really believe in a morality system full heartedly, people are good at justifying their actions to show that they were really acting in the common good based on some system of moral units. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Everyone is a bad person who does good things, not a good person who does bad things.Man, that's Serious Post of the Year winner right there. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 You all are for being so damn judgmental. See how easy it is to point the finger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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