What if Jagex changed the rules and permitted botting?

[Julezss]

Well personally I wouldn't quit because I love Runescape. The Grand Exchange items would sure drop really low because everyone would own for instance Dragon Claws because if someone is botting everyday they would get Claws a lot.

[BeMyEscape]

I don't think I would quit; I would probably just go about my business as usual. However, there are already a lot of bots as is and to me it seems if the rules were changed it wouldn't make a difference..

[Erichermit]

Wish theyd just make a couple [Caution: Jagex Rule Violation] servers and tell the botters to get their asses over there so we can enjoy ourselves in peace.

[Wessan]

Based on public opinion of the number of bots in RS as well as the data that shows how many bots are online (game update RS population graphs), I'd say it will take more than a "couple" servers. :)

[Serpent Eye]

Quitting would be high up on the agenda.

[Blutters]

Only thing I absolutely can't stand is Runecraft...

 

I'd just continue playing like I normally do and most likely get outraged and quit. Botting is basically acceptable now and the rule isn't stopping anyone from botting that really wants to. What's the point in playing a game for achievment? You get the sense of accomplishment sure, but what did you gain? If you botted while you slept and played for enjoyment during the day, then all you did was achieve something superficial and further kill the game you play for enjoyment.

 

If you don't like a skill, don't train it. There are plenty of other things that are fun to do in RuneScape. You don't have to achieve max skills in your time in RuneScape. Therefore, botting is unecessary, unless you only strive for achievements and money on a virtual world.

... And there's no point in botting or training Runecraft when I can just make RSW make me Emp Fire Staves.

 

 

Like Obtaurian nearly all I do is DG! All day, erryday, all day erryday!

 

 

JaGEx ever allowing/admitting (and especially supplying bots) that their game is so boring that it shouldn't be played by real people would be the saddest thing ever...

[i_trollz_u]

I'd just continue playing like I normally do and most likely get outraged and quit. Botting is basically acceptable now and the rule isn't stopping anyone from botting that really wants to. What's the point in playing a game for achievment? You get the sense of accomplishment sure, but what did you gain? If you botted while you slept and played for enjoyment during the day, then all you did was achieve something superficial and further kill the game you play for enjoyment.

 

If you don't like a skill, don't train it. There are plenty of other things that are fun to do in RuneScape. You don't have to achieve max skills in your time in RuneScape. Therefore, botting is unecessary, unless you only strive for achievements and money on a virtual world.

 

Problem with dont like it dont train it is there are lots of barriers in runescape where you do need to train things you dont like.

 

The fact that ANY skill is unenjoyable because players find it to be boring, repetatitve and frankly more fit for a machine then human is a failure on Jagex's part.

 

I will change my stance on botting if Jagex made certain skills unique, non repetative and frankly more fun. I think the only one who really enjoys firemaking or agility is my autistic cousin who is obsessed with repetition.

 

I honestly don't understand how killing bandos or arma is any more fun than killing a bunch monsters on a slayer task, and i'm pretty sure the "fun" stuff would just get botted too because of the moneymaking ability of killing bosses. The only "fun" things are the things that don't have anything to do with grinidng or training a skill whatsoever or making money, which really is just pvp activities, and that doesn't require the training of anything other than combat stats. And it's not even necessary to max combat, since you only fight people near your level anyway in the wild.

 

Dungeoneering is a little bit more "fun" compared to anything else on runescape, but running through a dungeon doing "puzzles" and killing stuff gets old fast, and i don't think a lot of people do it for the intrinsic enjoyment of it as much as for the rewards. People just feel like it's "fun" because it's more tolerable than activities like runecrafting.

[The Dark Lord]

The number of botters would increase. People would ragequit. You'd probably have something like 'Runescape Porn Day' as a protest by some people.

 

Game would still run.... But you'd have a community of legit players looking down on the botters. So in the end, not MUCH changes. Though there are changes and people may see the game as less of a challenge.

 

 

I'm not sure what'd happen exactly, so it's just speculation. The Runescape community is very different from the community of the MMO that I currently play, where botting is not a bannable offense.

[Vandite]

The number of botters would increase. People would ragequit. You'd probably have something like 'Runescape Porn Day' as a protest by some people.

 

Game would still run.... But you'd have a community of legit players looking down on the botters. So in the end, not MUCH changes. Though there are changes and people may see the game as less of a challenge.

 

 

I'm not sure what'd happen exactly, so it's just speculation. The Runescape community is very different from the community of the MMO that I currently play, where botting is not a bannable offense.

 

The legitimate players.

 

Any real legitimate player would rather not exist in a game filled with cheaters. That's why so many people view most of the games made by Nexon as a joke.

 

As for the question itself, I most likely would cry for two or three days before becoming anti-Jagex forever.

 

However, Jagex would never do this, so I doubt such a day would ever come.

[CS_Crimson]

Because I've been playing since around the launch of RS2, I don't think I'd bot. I've quit this game for years at a time. I don't see myself quitting anytime soon because I'm so into RuneScape at the moment, but this would push me to the edge, I'd quit when I'm the last standing RuneScape player, surrounded by botters. Thank god JaGeX would never do this.

[I_am_Not]

they already allow it, personally don't care as I have done it myself and would again on "throwaway" accounts.

I hardly play as it is right now, but allowing botting wouldn't change a thing for me

[Nanaboy]

It seems they already allow botting as it is.... :wall:

 

not promoting anything, just stating the truth

[Zerker_Jane]

What would be the point in botting a 99 if you know and everyone else knows you botted it? Are people here seriously saying they would bot 99 runecrafting etc just so they could say "hey look guys i botted 99 runecrafting aren't i pro".

[Zerker_Jane]

What would be the point in botting a 99 if you know and everyone else knows you botted it? Are people here seriously saying they would bot 99 runecrafting etc just so they could say "hey look guys i botted 99 runecrafting aren't i pro".

 

personal satisfaction of being "done" with a skill you hate?

 

You could go on a private server right now, edit that skill to 99, and feel the exact same amount of satisfaction as you would if you botted it.

[Omali]

Problem is, is that its not the real server.

 

If anything why shouldnt I bot runecrafting if it is loathsomely tedious? I have two choices, 1 boycott the skill or 2 bot it. Hmm do I hurt my own gameplay (in the inevitable quest a few years from now with 90+ rc requirement) or do I actively protest poor content by Jagex by botting.

 

When the time comes I will probably choose the latter whether or not you think its wrong to do so.

 

Prime example of why old school gamers are elitist to today's gamers. if you can't have it immediately, you want to cheat for it. If you have to put some brain power into it, you want to cheat for it. If it involves repetitive tasks, you want to cheat for it. There are plenty of single player games that can fulfill your childish need for instant gratification.

[Zerker_Jane]

Problem is, is that its not the real server.

 

If anything why shouldnt I bot runecrafting if it is loathsomely tedious? I have two choices, 1 boycott the skill or 2 bot it. Hmm do I hurt my own gameplay (in the inevitable quest a few years from now with 90+ rc requirement) or do I actively protest poor content by Jagex by botting.

 

When the time comes I will probably choose the latter whether or not you think its wrong to do so.

 

Prime example of why old school gamers are elitist to today's gamers. if you can't have it immediately, you want to cheat for it. If you have to put some brain power into it, you want to cheat for it. If it involves repetitive tasks, you want to cheat for it. There are plenty of single player games that can fulfill your childish need for instant gratification.

so true.

[Crossed_Body]

I'd probably bot runecrafting quest requirements. Not much point in botting anything else from my point of view.

[i_trollz_u]

Problem is, is that its not the real server.

 

If anything why shouldnt I bot runecrafting if it is loathsomely tedious? I have two choices, 1 boycott the skill or 2 bot it. Hmm do I hurt my own gameplay (in the inevitable quest a few years from now with 90+ rc requirement) or do I actively protest poor content by Jagex by botting.

 

When the time comes I will probably choose the latter whether or not you think its wrong to do so.

 

Prime example of why old school gamers are elitist to today's gamers. if you can't have it immediately, you want to cheat for it. If you have to put some brain power into it, you want to cheat for it. If it involves repetitive tasks, you want to cheat for it. There are plenty of single player games that can fulfill your childish need for instant gratification.

 

Hey for things that I consider valuable life skills, like work or education I would be the last to cheat my way through those.

 

For something I consider entertainment, why not? Childish to do so? perhaps. But I pay 5 bucks a month for fun. So if there are aspects of the game that hinder that, I wouldnt give a damn to bypass them even though you might think it breaches some misguided honor code :rolleyes:.

 

When I quit runescape I want to look back at the fun I had not at the "hardwork" I put into skills I hated. Like I said in my previous post I can either boycott the skill or actively protest it by cheating. I chose the latter, be it to "fulfill my childish need for instant gratification" by not allowing a video game (entertainment) to be seen as a chore. God forbid that.

 

 

But your initial assumption was wrong to begin with, there are different aspects of the game I value, problem solving is something I wont cheat. I enjoy quests and wont use a quest guide (exceptions being nomad since I am not a combat person). Im sorry I hate the grind, I hate that certain skills cause phsycal pain to train, if you got a problem with that keep it to yourself. or perhaps I should, frankly im getting tired of bashing my head against the wall trying to explain simple concepts such as games are meant to be entertainment not work and grindfests aren't healthy gameplay models.

 

 

Also inb4 you say go to a private server then, I play runescape not [Caution: Jagex Rule Violation]scape. Though if you said go to World of Warcraft that would be a valid point since that game revolves less and less around mindless grinds like runescape.

 

If Runescape is infested with so much content you don't like I don't see why you just don't quit. Even if there's some content you do like that requires grinding i honestly don't see why you find the game worth it when, to you, it requires cheating to access.

[Brood_Abyss]

If Runescape is infested with so much content you don't like I don't see why you just don't quit. Even if there's some content you do like that requires grinding i honestly don't see why you find the game worth it when, to you, it requires cheating to access.

 

Endgame content is usually (dare I say always?) the most fun. Blah blah blah honor and sense of achievement getting it yourself, blah blah blah. Fine, I don't disagree with that; if botting was legal then its not really a game at all, or worth comparing yourself to someone else, but. Endgame content is more FUN. I don't care if it's runescape, WoW, LotRO, GW, or whatever MMO floats your boat, its much more fun to be playing the endgame material with your buddies then stuck somewhere mindlessly clicking. If someone's idea of fun is to bot their way to max, and then play legit end-game content, so be it.

 

 

 

 

Edit: Also.. if one were to subscribe to this nonsense of "if there's something you don't like, just quit' I'd like you to take that philosophy IRL and see how far it gets you.

[i_trollz_u]

If Runescape is infested with so much content you don't like I don't see why you just don't quit. Even if there's some content you do like that requires grinding i honestly don't see why you find the game worth it when, to you, it requires cheating to access.

 

Endgame content is usually (dare I say always?) the most fun. Blah blah blah honor and sense of achievement getting it yourself, blah blah blah. Fine, I don't disagree with that; if botting was legal then its not really a game at all, or worth comparing yourself to someone else, but. Endgame content is more FUN. I don't care if it's runescape, WoW, LotRO, GW, or whatever MMO floats your boat, its much more fun to be playing the endgame material with your buddies then stuck somewhere mindlessly clicking. If someone's idea of fun is to bot their way to max, and then play legit end-game content, so be it.

 

 

 

 

Edit: Also.. if one were to subscribe to this nonsense of "if there's something you don't like, just quit' I'd like you to take that philosophy IRL and see how far it gets you.

 

I honestly don't understand how boss killing or dung is suppose to be "fun". It's just a more tolerable form of money making/training a skill that still involves massive repetition and grinding. And as the Ring guy said, Runescape is a game and meant for entertainment, and video games happen to be one of those things you're suppose to stop playing when you stop having fun in them, not ruin it for everyone else.

[Unb34t4bl3]

Edit: Also.. if one were to subscribe to this nonsense of "if there's something you don't like, just quit' I'd like you to take that philosophy IRL and see how far it gets you.

 

Are you seriously trying to compare something like, "not liking RuneScape" to, "not liking school or work?"

 

Because yes, if you don't like RuneScape, then YES, YOU QUIT. Why? Because it's a completely meaningless game. And not IRL.

[Brood_Abyss]

Edit: Also.. if one were to subscribe to this nonsense of "if there's something you don't like, just quit' I'd like you to take that philosophy IRL and see how far it gets you.

 

Are you seriously trying to compare something like, "not liking RuneScape" to, "not liking school or work?"

 

Because yes, if you don't like RuneScape, then YES, YOU QUIT. Why? Because it's a completely meaningless game. And not IRL.

 

And if you have FUN with the game, other then mindless grinding, why not skip the mindless grinding? Just because 95% or RS is mindless grinding, it shouldn't take away the merit of 5% of fun? Or should it.

 

I played most of my character in RSC. And know what? It was fun. Not because of efficiency, not because of grinding, but because of community. When you have less then 8 servers, maybe a few thousand players around, you know everyone, and everyone knows you. If someone's idea of fun is grinding verse someone who'd rather get past the grinding to play something else, what does it matter to you?

 

If botting became legal, it wouldn't bother me at all. Those who choose to bot would do it, and those who won't, won't. If you want to bot so you can go kill Nex, or mine rune, or smith rune plates, go ahead. Me? I'd rather be outside anyways.

[Range_This11]

Problem is, is that its not the real server.

 

If anything why shouldnt I bot runecrafting if it is loathsomely tedious? I have two choices, 1 boycott the skill or 2 bot it. Hmm do I hurt my own gameplay (in the inevitable quest a few years from now with 90+ rc requirement) or do I actively protest poor content by Jagex by botting.

 

When the time comes I will probably choose the latter whether or not you think its wrong to do so.

 

Prime example of why old school gamers are elitist to today's gamers. if you can't have it immediately, you want to cheat for it. If you have to put some brain power into it, you want to cheat for it. If it involves repetitive tasks, you want to cheat for it. There are plenty of single player games that can fulfill your childish need for instant gratification.

I do not like such broad generalizations because I am sure that there are many adult players who cheat as well as many young players who do not, but I have to agree with this post.

 

It seems to me that cheating and instant gratification are signs of impatience and that impatience is typically associated with children. I enjoy far too much the feeling of gaining a level I worked hard for; a botter who is 99 in multiple skills will never detract from that. I could really care less if some players want to bot or if Jagex made it legal. After all, almost all console and PC games have cheats. I have some friends who use cheat codes on a regular basis to unlock levels, cars, guns, etc. and that does not detract from my experience playing the game without cheat codes. Runescape, to me, is no different.

[Leik]

I would never, ever touch any of those programs. I know I'd try to play as normal even if they allowed botting, but I'd most likely give up eventually. Wouldn't stand a chance competing against all those robots. :( Besides, there's no point in "playing" if you just have some bot doing all the work for you.

[Jehosaphat]

What would happen if Jagex allowed bots?

 

Not much. Bots would keep botting, most of the people who would quit/go on hiatus (like myself) because of bots already have...

 

I guess the only noticeable change would be in the content of RSOF rants. Instead of "OMG I HATE BOTS THEY IS AGAINST TEH ROOLZ AND ALL NEED BANNED" it'd be "OMG I HATE BOTS THEY MAKE IT NOT FUN AND ALL NEED BANNED"