Nash Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I was curious what the drop rate was for visages according to kids on the forums so I did a quick google search. To my suprise one of the first sites to come up was a botting site (I dont think im allowed to state the name of said site but I will if permitted to do so and if you guys are curious) Anyways the answer to my question was in one of the guys' signatures. I guess its some sort of counter that shows all of the loot gained from everyone using that particular frost dragon bot. So the simple math is 2760981/258 (bones aka kills/visages) and you get 1:10,701. Seems logical right? Thought id share this since even though it is an unfortunate way of deriving the rate its still the only actual concrete numbers we have. On a side note, thats; -36 phats-407 santas-2,345 Bandos chest plates/tassets-52,120 whips Roughly. Anyways figured you guys might like to know since drop rates have always been something of interest. Pixel Signature Made By Me.Pixel Art Tutorial * Pixel Gallery * My Free Pixel Sigs Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest_Cape_K Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Good find,There have been some topics on the RSOF claiming that the drop rate is around 10k as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Bit unfortunate that they are bots, but it shows another thing they are good at, besides gathering cash :P. Nice find (and no, you can't say the name). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo_Monkey Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Good find :thumbsup: Kind of wish this could have been found out in a legitimant fashion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 It makes me wonder if we (those who dont bot) could design an app that could document our kills and drops and then compile it into an easy to understand thing like they have. It wouldnt do anything other than count kills. Does anybody know Jagex's stance on add-ons like that? I know WoW has them so long as they dont actually do anything for you. Pixel Signature Made By Me.Pixel Art Tutorial * Pixel Gallery * My Free Pixel Sigs Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 It's alright to gather information, I think, but you can't use the information to move the mouse or to do anything in the game. Many people keep manual drop logs of their bosshunting, too, and of course keep track of whip drops etc. by slayer task numbers. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 So from the sound of things, a script that would gather information like -total kills-drop rates-xp p/hr rates-kills p/hr-etc Those would all be acceptable? Pixel Signature Made By Me.Pixel Art Tutorial * Pixel Gallery * My Free Pixel Sigs Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The problem with that is you can't get the sheer numbers the bothers have. They have 2.8 MILLION kills, that would take forever to do on anything but a 24/7 bot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muuuuuuuuuu Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The problem with that is you can't get the sheer numbers the bothers have. They have 2.8 MILLION kills, that would take forever to do on anything but a 24/7 bot.it would take, I guess, about 2207 days, 20 hours, 2 minutes, and 37 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 For anyone interested, you can actually use the script those guys use and disable the bot to get the paint to show up, including it tracking all your kills and loots such as visage. I wouldn't recommend it though, those places are riddled with keyloggers and viruses. Not to mention even owning the script is probably ban-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haaa_Haaa0 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Did they have data on anything else? Drop rates on Green drags, stuff like that? Rune Tips Merchanting Site!"rune tips cc" if you would like to learn some tricks of the merching trade! We have a great community as well.Each of us a cell of awareness/Imperfect and incomplete/Genetic blends with uncertain ends/On a fortune hunt thats far too fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Did they have data on anything else? Drop rates on Green drags, stuff like that? 0/∞ Only Iron, Steel, Mithril, Frost, King Black and Black dragon drop visages along with Skeletal Wyverns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Interesting data, and given my estimation of 8-12k per visage, seems quite legit. It's also interesting to note that they can kill 52 dragons an hour, almost 4x less than someone with maxed gear/attention, go figure. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Interesting data, and given my estimation of 8-12k per visage, seems quite legit. It's also interesting to note that they can kill 52 dragons an hour, almost 4x less than someone with maxed gear/attention, go figure. You clearly havn't been to frost dragons lately. Thanks to all the botters, getting even 1 dragon to yourself is almost impossible. I've reported over twenty 130's+ in the past few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exu Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 So from the sound of things, a script that would gather information like -total kills-drop rates-xp p/hr rates-kills p/hr-etc Those would all be acceptable? I googled this a while back. There is a bot for that. I checked it out, but it was still in the botclient so that's against the Jagex rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendettas Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I've always thought an add-on similar to that of wowhead's for WoW would be interesting in runescape. Data could be collected VERY quickly if the add-on was picked up by some of the people training slayer, cannoning cave crawlers, and boss hunting. If only a few of the highly recognizable slayers/boss hunters took the initiative (SUOMI, xpx, maz, etc.), the addon would spread quickly and give a good suggestion towards things as charm drop rates, effigy rates, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessan Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Actually I don't think people like SUOMI care too much about drops like this. They care more about the most efficient experience rates. If they get a drop due to training they probably go "oh, that's nice" and keep going with whatever they are doing. There are more people interested in such things (people who do research for this forum) who care more about stuff like this. These people would be the ones you want using the add-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendettas Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Actually I don't think people like SUOMI care too much about drops like this. They care more about the most efficient experience rates. If they get a drop due to training they probably go "oh, that's nice" and keep going with whatever they are doing. There are more people interested in such things (people who do research for this forum) who care more about stuff like this. These people would be the ones you want using the add-on. It wouldn't matter if they care about the drops themselves, but rather that they are helping to increase the effective known drop rates of items. The addon that has been mentioned from wowhead is passive and non-invasive. SUOMI or others wouldn't need to do anything other than right click on the drop pile after a kill. All else is done behind the scenes. It cannot be hard to make the actual recording addon, I'm just worried about the legitimacy of such a tool. The database could be built into Tip.it's item database fairly simply aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Actually I don't think people like SUOMI care too much about drops like this. They care more about the most efficient experience rates. If they get a drop due to training they probably go "oh, that's nice" and keep going with whatever they are doing. There are more people interested in such things (people who do research for this forum) who care more about stuff like this. These people would be the ones you want using the add-on. It wouldn't matter if they care about the drops themselves, but rather that they are helping to increase the effective known drop rates of items. The addon that has been mentioned from wowhead is passive and non-invasive. SUOMI or others wouldn't need to do anything other than right click on the drop pile after a kill. All else is done behind the scenes. It cannot be hard to make the actual recording addon, I'm just worried about the legitimacy of such a tool. The database could be built into Tip.it's item database fairly simply aswell.I'm pretty sure woox uses a similar thing to record his loots at TDs, but i don't think that it's automatic, he simply updates it inbetween kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamzie Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 wtf? time ran 2207days? its 6years bro its imposible to have bot running for 6 years becose every sys update disconnect all botters and im not sure but are frost tragons in game 6years ago? sorry for bad english and i hope u understand me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 2207 days, over multiple accounts. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbwireboy3 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 wtf? time ran 2207days? its 6years bro its imposible to have bot running for 6 years becose every sys update disconnect all botters and im not sure but are frost tragons in game 6years ago? sorry for bad english and i hope u understand me :)The bot hasnt been running for 6 years at once. That is the total time of all the people using it together. So say 10 people used it for 10 hours, the time would be 100 hours. It was not all in one go, or all from one individual person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamzie Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 hmm... ok thahts possible :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 To the above: It's a count of EVERY frost dragon bot that is running from their bot client.Not just the one bot. Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruhx Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 That's pretty interesting. I once got a visage from an iron dragon. It was worth 33mil at the time. Exactly a year ago actually. I wonder what the rate is for 3a from a clue, I actually heard it's now 1:1,000,000. I sure hope not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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