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Poll: About You (180 member(s) have cast votes)

Your race is...

  1. Voted Caucasian (152 votes [84.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.44%

  2. African (incl. black westerners) (4 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  3. Arab (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  4. Persian (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Turkic (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. East Asian peoples (Chinese et al) (9 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  7. Indigenous American (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Indian (3 votes [1.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.67%

  9. Indigenous Australasian (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Other (4 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  11. Mixed (7 votes [3.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.89%

Your religious beliefs are...

  1. Christianity (32 votes [17.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.78%

  2. Islam (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Judaism (2 votes [1.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.11%

  4. Buddhism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  5. Taoism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Hinduism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  7. Sikhism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  8. Zoroastrianism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Caodaiism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Jainism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  11. Shintoism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. Primal Indigenous (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  13. African Traditional (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  14. Bahá'í Faith (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  15. Neo-Paganism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  16. Rastafarianism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  17. Scientology (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  18. Chinese folk religion (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  19. Voted Atheism (103 votes [57.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.22%

  20. Other (37 votes [20.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.56%

Your sexual preference is

  1. Voted Heterosexuality (134 votes [74.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.44%

  2. Homosexuality (g & l) (16 votes [8.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.89%

  3. Bisexuality (17 votes [9.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.44%

  4. Asexuality (8 votes [4.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.44%

  5. Confused (5 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

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I must say, looking at the possible answers, that it looks like you've just looked up religions on wikipedia and picked the ones that sound cool. Some of those religions have been out for over a millennia now, and some are kept to their countries of origin and so are extremely unlikely to be represented by people on the net.


I've just gone for the biggest world religions, with exceptions in places where I feel the religions overlap. Caodaiism, for example, is a big religion in Vietnam and Vietnamese communities abroad, which are especially large in the USA. The same applies to Rastafarianism and others on the list. Ommitting them because it's "unlikely" defeats the object of a census; if no one is a Caodai, then at least we know that nobody is, because it's still there as an option. This way the census is more inclusive and gives us a clearer idea of the demographics of the forum.



Scientology is not a religion. Why put that, as well as some other religions which is it very likely people people here, on an English speaking forum will not be part of and miss things like agnostic off?

Some people still believe in ridiculous things and it is classed as a religion.


Virtually all Scientologists are American, so including it on a US/Eurocentric forum makes quite a lot of sense. Agnositicism, on the other hand, is not a religion, and so including it makes far less sense, as is stated in the FAQ.



Scientology is not a religion. Why put that, as well as some other religions which is it very likely people people here, on an English speaking forum will not be part of and miss things like agnostic off?

Some people still believe in ridiculous things and it is classed as a religion.


It isn't in most of the world. I refuse to see it as a religion. It is a cult, full stop. I actually find it offensive to be recognised next to religions.


But it has over 10,000 followers - estimates at number of Scientologists are never lower than 50,000 - and so it is a religion. Cults are only cults if they have under 10,000 followers, full stop. Just because you or I find it foolish doesn't mean that listing it as a religion - nothing more than an obective truth - is "offensive".


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Scientology is not a religion. Why put that, as well as some other religions which is it very likely people people here, on an English speaking forum will not be part of and miss things like agnostic off?

Some people still believe in ridiculous things and it is classed as a religion.


It isn't in most of the world. I refuse to see it as a religion. It is a cult, full stop. I actually find it offensive to be recognised next to religions.


But it has over 10,000 followers - estimates at number of Scientologists are never lower than 50,000 - and so it is a religion. Cults are only cults if they have under 10,000 followers, full stop. Just because you or I find it foolish doesn't mean that listing it as a religion - nothing more than an obective truth - is "offensive".

The issue I take with scientology is that L. Ron Hubbard is quoted as saying
"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

Scientology is not organic, its synthetic. To an atheist this might be difficult to comprehend, but when the creator of your religion is quoted as saying "The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them," you don't have a religion, you have a gimmick.

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Let's not turn this into an argument about Scientology. This isn't what the thread is for.


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Scientology is not a religion. Why put that, as well as some other religions which is it very likely people people here, on an English speaking forum will not be part of and miss things like agnostic off?

Some people still believe in ridiculous things and it is classed as a religion.


It isn't in most of the world. I refuse to see it as a religion. It is a cult, full stop. I actually find it offensive to be recognised next to religions.


But it has over 10,000 followers - estimates at number of Scientologists are never lower than 50,000 - and so it is a religion. Cults are only cults if they have under 10,000 followers, full stop. Just because you or I find it foolish doesn't mean that listing it as a religion - nothing more than an obective truth - is "offensive".

The issue I take with scientology is that L. Ron Hubbard is quoted as saying
"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

Scientology is not organic, its synthetic. To an atheist this might be difficult to comprehend, but when the creator of your religion is quoted as saying "The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them," you don't have a religion, you have a gimmick.


The Catholic church is considered the richest corporation in the world.

What makes either one more of a religion then the other (besides age?)

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Dunno, it seems like two different races to me.

Besides, there's the issue of self-identification. We usually call ourselves Mestizos way more often than Caucasians.

But anyway. :razz:

Caucasian
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The reason Caucasian has a stupidly large majority is due to the amount of races you lumped into it; if you at least gave Hispanic as an option, there would be some more variety. Why give Turkic and Persian a separate option when Hispanics would be, I would imagine at least, more common?

Also:
Caucasian
Atheist
Heterosexual.

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The Catholic church is considered the richest corporation in the world.

What makes either one more of a religion then the other (besides age?)

Lol by who? And does someone actually have a verified source on that?

By the way, I wonder how much money is in the pope's bank account?

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Dunno, it seems like two different races to me.


Besides, there's the issue of self-identification. We usually call ourselves Mestizos way more often than Caucasians.

But anyway. :razz:


Caucasian
Homosexual
Athiest.

Granted they look different, but technically hispanics are either white European, native (Central and South) American, or a mix of the two. Thing is, in USA we don't call half (Norhthern) native-half white people a new race, why should the Spanish speaking people be?

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What makes either one more of a religion then the other (besides age?)

Well, the Catholic Church doesn't charge a membership fee. The way they were founded is another difference. This is probably better suited to another thread.


Back on topic:
Age would be more interesting, less controversial. Home country too. I feel like those define a person more than their ethnicity.

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I think there was a thread over in RS General or something that was attempting to get all fifty states represented by forum members. I know I was on the list for WI. I have not seen the thread in a really long time.

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Caucasian, semi-atheist, asexual.

I believe in a higher power, but not as a god - more like another race which is sufficiently advanced to be like gods to us (it's hard to explain). I also believe in some kind of rebirth.

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Scientology is not organic, its synthetic.


All religions are effectively synthetic.

Any religion set up in today's world, irrespective of beliefs, is going to have to start the way Scientology did because of the capitalist society we live in. The world is so radically different to that of 2,000 years ago that comparisons for setting up religions can't really be drawn.


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I think there was a thread over in RS General or something that was attempting to get all fifty states represented by forum members. I know I was on the list for WI. I have not seen the thread in a really long time.


I remember that thread. Can't remember if it ever got completed or not.
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I believe in a higher power, but not as a god - more like another race which is sufficiently advanced to be like gods to us (it's hard to explain). I also believe in some kind of rebirth.

You mean the kind of theme Gene Roddenberry explores in the Star Trek series, where 'gods' are repeatedly exposed as frauds who make other races feel as though they are gods in order to maintain power?

Because Gene was an atheist. No semi- about it.

Also, interesting that more people have identified themselves as bisexual than completely homosexual. It would appear to validate the theory that sexuality is more like a spectrum, rather than simply "straight" and "not straight".

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You forgot Agnostic... I don't consider myself atheist. Caucasian, if you'd have put white I would have said other... Prolly Jedi, as something like 0.2% of the US population did put that in 2000's census.
Hrm.. If anybody does tally up age/country etc: I'm 17, from the US... And I'm female, which would be fun to count up how badly we're outnumbered here.

Agnostic is an adjective, you'd either be agnostic atheist or agnostic theist.



You're going to have to explain that one to me. I've always thought a true agnostic would just state that there is no way to know or logically infer anything about the existence or nature of God and that all further discussion on the subject is futile or inconsequential.




Scientology is not a religion. Why put that, as well as some other religions which is it very likely people people here, on an English speaking forum will not be part of and miss things like agnostic off?

Some people still believe in ridiculous things and it is classed as a religion.


It isn't in most of the world. I refuse to see it as a religion. It is a cult, full stop. I actually find it offensive to be recognised next to religions.


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What makes either one more of a religion then the other (besides age?)

Well, the Catholic Church doesn't charge a membership fee. The way they were founded is another difference. This is probably better suited to another thread.


Back on topic:
Age would be more interesting, less controversial. Home country too. I feel like those define a person more than their ethnicity.

Give us 10% of what you make or we will guilt you into thinking you get a permab& to hell, conversely we tell you about Jesus and you will give us your 100 acre estate when you die

I agree this should be for the religion thread, I am just trying to say that system of beliefs about life, death, universe creation and end no matter how ridiculous are a religion, even if the said religion makes you do crazy things like obscene membership fees and/or kill someone.

Not intentionally slandering the catholic church this time around :P just trying to point out that there are similarities to their conduct as there are to Scientology, and if not now certainly in the past

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I think there was a thread over in RS General or something that was attempting to get all fifty states represented by forum members. I know I was on the list for WI. I have not seen the thread in a really long time.


I remember that thread. Can't remember if it ever got completed or not.

Yeah and I am far too lazy to go digging for it :P

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The Catholic church is considered the richest corporation in the world.

What makes either one more of a religion then the other (besides age?)

Lol by who? And does someone actually have a verified source on that?

By the way, I wonder how much money is in the pope's bank account?


This fact is unverifiable due to the Catholic Church's extreme secrecy, which is especially apparent with money, but it's actually not that hard to believe. Consider how much land and buildings the church controls. Consider that the church gets literally millions - if not billions - every week, month, year, in donations, and all of the other assets it controls. It controls a country, for example.

Walmart - the world's richest company - is worth $420bn according to their annual report. The Catholic Church is not listed as a corporation, and hence doesn't share how much it is worth. Still, this doesn't change the fact that it's disgustingly rich and easily able to come close to - if not completely - eradicate poverty in Africa.

As for your second question: He probably doesn't control one. He has everything given to him, why would he have one? And this is not unheard of. For example, British royals aren't allowed to have any cash on them.




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