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Poll: About You (180 member(s) have cast votes)

Your race is...

  1. Voted Caucasian (152 votes [84.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.44%

  2. African (incl. black westerners) (4 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  3. Arab (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  4. Persian (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Turkic (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. East Asian peoples (Chinese et al) (9 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  7. Indigenous American (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Indian (3 votes [1.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.67%

  9. Indigenous Australasian (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Other (4 votes [2.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.22%

  11. Mixed (7 votes [3.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.89%

Your religious beliefs are...

  1. Christianity (32 votes [17.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.78%

  2. Islam (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Judaism (2 votes [1.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.11%

  4. Buddhism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  5. Taoism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Hinduism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  7. Sikhism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  8. Zoroastrianism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Caodaiism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Jainism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  11. Shintoism (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. Primal Indigenous (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  13. African Traditional (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  14. Bahá'í Faith (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  15. Neo-Paganism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  16. Rastafarianism (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  17. Scientology (1 votes [0.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.56%

  18. Chinese folk religion (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  19. Voted Atheism (103 votes [57.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.22%

  20. Other (37 votes [20.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.56%

Your sexual preference is

  1. Voted Heterosexuality (134 votes [74.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.44%

  2. Homosexuality (g & l) (16 votes [8.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.89%

  3. Bisexuality (17 votes [9.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.44%

  4. Asexuality (8 votes [4.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.44%

  5. Confused (5 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

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#141
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How can you include Bahai faith, which has less than 300k members in the United States and Europe (which is the vast majority of voters) and not agnosticism?


In addition, for those of you who seem to be unaware, agnosticism isn't a religion per se. All it means is that you do not claim to know that your beliefs are correct. So technically everyone in the world should be an agnostic, because nobody "knows," but of course people will claim to know they're correct even with quite literally 0 evidence :rolleyes:


Agnosticism is not a religious position: it is an epistemological position. One is either a theist or an atheist; agnosticism is addressing a different question entirely - the availability of knowledge. Thus with regards to religious belief, one can be an agnostic theist or agnostic atheist, but not simply an agnostic.


I regard Agnosticism as a belief in its own right. If someone says they are agnostic I assume it means that they believe there can be no evidence for the existence of God but they wont deny the possibility that one can/does exist.

I dont think this position falls under agnostic theist or atheist.

At any rate I think that Deism and Agnosticism should replace some of the options that have 0 votes since both of those would probably represent most of the "other" votes and perhaps some "atheist" and "christian" votes might switch to either of those given the choice.

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I'd strongly disagree, Ring. Theism is the explicit acceptance of the proposition "There exists a deity or deities." If one does not accept the proposition, one is not a theist - that is, an atheist (if you feel the word is too laden down with added, contemporary baggage - feel free to use the term non-theist).

As such, Deism is a subset of Theism - as it includes the belief in a deity (an impersonal creator god). Also, agnosticism in the sense that you define it is non theism; even if you haven't made up your mind, you still do not explicitly accept the core statement of theism. :thumbup:

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I was under the impression that Atheism is the belief that there is absolutely not a deity. Thus I would think that agnosticism could be used to define the middle ground. If I'm wrong on the first part then I'll have to rethink it :razz:
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Like I posted, agnosticism addresses a seperate but related question. Admittedly, the exact meaning of 'atheism' is debated; if you want to be safe, using 'non-theist' is probably the best idea. The importance of these distinctions is to do with the burden of proof, a concept I'm sure you're familiar with. :wink:

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"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist."

It seems there are multiple viable definitions.



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