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I think people are always going to find ways to make themselves feel good by making others feel bad. Bullying can't be stopped in schools when surrounded by teachers, or even the workplace when surrounded by other adults who are supposed to know better, so why would anyone think it could be stopped in the anonymity of cyberspace?

 

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It's as simple as that if you've got the maturity to do so. But much of cyber bullying is directed either at people who are too young to let it go that easily or too emotionally fragile.

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It all depends on the situation. Take two situations: someone flames someone on Youtube, then they report them to the police for flaming them. That's an example of an overreaction. That's the only thing I have problems with. Another situation where they gained access to their phone number or personal information and started harassing them and causing problems is something that should be looked into. That's something that (in my opinion anyway) should be taken to the police.

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Kids are easily provoked and don't always have knowledge of sophisticated privacy controls. So saying that none of them get used is all well and good, but it doesn't always help people being harassed, especially if the child is silent on the matter. It's not like a parent sees their child coming home with a black eye when someone calls them nasty things online repeatedly over time. It's a completely different scenario, which parents are ill equipped to handle. Restricting a kid's access to certain websites on the computer itself is a hard task for the average person, and everyone knows that "Billy, don't go to that <site>!" isn't sufficient.

 

You can't just blow off the issue by saying, "lol well they exist, its their fault". The problem is more complicated than that. And it's hard to educate the unwilling, which most people are until it happens to their child.

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Well, if a parent knew about it and didn't try to stop it, then they have no right to complain about laws and how police/schools don't care after their child is dead at their own hands. Might seem harsh/cynical, but that's just hypocrisy.

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I do think parents have a responsibility to limit and control their children's access to the internet - but even there like Kim said there is a limit to what they can reasonably do.

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I get pissed off whenever I hear about kids being bullied... More pissed off at the kids who are the victims. I've never experienced being bullied myself, so that might be why, but I just don't understand why people would put up with other people's [cabbage].

 

I was told that one kid at my high school was being bullied during a guest speaker presentation. Some kid kept kicking his chair on purpose, so this kid kept turning around to tell him to stop, but the other kid wouldn't. He was laughing with all his friends and everything. Afterwards, the kid-victim got in trouble for talking during the presentation. It's like, just tell the teacher straight up what was going on and don't be all scared about it. It's high school. Grow some balls and tell the kid to [bleep] off.

 

I know it's a whole lot different with physical bullying, but for verbal bullying (yah, I know, this is about cyber bullying, but I just gotta rant for a minute), no one should be a victim of it. Seriously, if some kid starts talking at you, a good "[bleep] off" or "what's your problem?" will do. The kids just need to realize these bullies are low life pieces of [cabbage] with nothing better to do.

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I think it's good exercise to prepare children for the dangers IRL.

Unless you live in a truly terrible neighbourhood, the scale of bullying you see in schools is way more than people should have to handle in real life when at the workplace. Nobody needs it.

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I think it's good exercise to prepare children for the dangers IRL.

Unless you live in a truly terrible neighbourhood, the scale of bullying you see in schools is way more than people should have to handle in real life when at the workplace. Nobody needs it.

 

 

Should is the key word here.

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"Cyberbullying" is when a child, preteen or teen is tormented, threatened, harassed, humiliated, embarrassed or otherwise targeted by another child, preteen or teen using the Internet, interactive and digital technologies or mobile phones. It has to have a minor on both sides, or at least have been instigated by a minor against another minor. Once adults become involved, it is plain and simple cyber-harassment or cyberstalking. Adult cyber-harassment or cyberstalking is NEVER called cyberbullying.

 

Taken from the first site on a Google search of "cyberbullying". Honestly, it sounds like dedicated trolling to me. I can't help but feel that the people who have killed themselves over somebody saying hurtful things to them anonymously shouldn't have been on the Internet in the first place.

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"Cyberbullying" is when a child, preteen or teen is tormented, threatened, harassed, humiliated, embarrassed or otherwise targeted by another child, preteen or teen using the Internet, interactive and digital technologies or mobile phones. It has to have a minor on both sides, or at least have been instigated by a minor against another minor. Once adults become involved, it is plain and simple cyber-harassment or cyberstalking. Adult cyber-harassment or cyberstalking is NEVER called cyberbullying.

 

Taken from the first site on a Google search of "cyberbullying". Honestly, it sounds like dedicated trolling to me. I can't help but feel that the people who have killed themselves over somebody saying hurtful things to them anonymously shouldn't have been on the Internet in the first place.

 

This. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. The video explains it well. Warning: NSFW language.

 

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It's bad, but over-hyped. In real life, if a group of kids tease a child, then it's too bad, but kids will be kids. If it's online, then the police are called. It just seems a bit drastic.

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If it's a genuine attempt to humiliate and torment another child, or remove their dignity, then it's categorically wrong.

 

If it's simply a case of somebody getting upset because someone assertively disagreed with them, then I'm sorry, but that isn't bullying. That's life.

 

Bullying is not the mere act of "being mean". It's a systematic and calculated attempt to abuse someone else.

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If it's a genuine attempt to humiliate and torment another child, or remove their dignity, then it's categorically wrong.

 

If it's simply a case of somebody getting upset because someone assertively disagreed with them, then I'm sorry, but that isn't bullying. That's life.

 

Bullying is not the mere act of "being mean". It's a systematic and calculated attempt to abuse someone else.

 

Of course it's wrong. Of course people who do it are jerks and lowlifes.

 

But killing yourself over it means you're letting them win, and that you don't care enough about your own life to solve the problem.

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But killing yourself over it means you're letting them win, and that you don't care enough about your own life to solve the problem.

 

You can't use that as a platform to make blanket snide remarks at those who have hurt themselves or worse due to extreme harassment, be it online or in real life. When going through such severe stress at a young age you're not properly equipped to deal with it. Yes, we're told to be open and honest to heal from a very young age, but words are wind. In every other young person's life, they see example after example of people bottling it up inside, of shutting themselves in and cutting themselves off. They might not even fully understand why, but then people who are around this type of behavior start mimicking it, maybe without even realizing it. And worst of all, negative behavior is almost romanticized in youth culture to be brooding, self-loathing, self-inflicing pain and other torments.

 

So unless there's a strong influence to do otherwise (ie strong rolemodels, responsible parents, strong social structure that someone can trust) they honestly might not know any better. Things can go awry. 'Cyberbullying' doesn't typically happen with older adults, who know where to seek help and the consequences that will follow if they don't. The younger crowds who most typically get caught up in it don't. They still are in a phase in their life where they're struggling with acceptance, self-reliance, discipline, and their own identity. And any sort of harassment left unchecked, left to fester in someone's heart can lead to a tragic accident that ends everything--suicide. Like a teenage girl who was caught one day with self-inflicted cuts on her arms due to the harassment she received on a daily basis when she ran out of long-sleeved tshirts to hide them.

 

If someone is sitting and mocking people who have gone through this, I have to wonder if they haven't had it happen to themselves or someone close to them. Or perhaps they simply think it's just an isolated incident of someone going, "Hey idiot lol ur fat" every now and then and the victims overreact. There are hundreds of people who receive such minute things and don't go to themselves and say well I guess it's time to kill myself! The media does like to put its jaws into anything exploitable, especially things that offends sensibilities, to bolster ratings. And I'm sure like any other sensible person, these overblown wack-jobs are ignored. But there are real cases, of real people affected by things like this. There is no way that you can't see the difference between such a mild example and say Alexis Pilkington.

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I get the difference between a minor case and one like that.

 

I can't say I've experience suicide due to cyberbullying, but I can say that I was bullied for much of my life. I had few friends at a time, and I was beat up at least two or three times. A lot of people still don't like me and make no qualms about saying so. But now I have friends and I am aware of the social consequences of actions. I stood up in eighth grade to a bully and punched him in the face. That summer, I stood up to someone else (who had wronged me multiple times) driving him to tears just with words. I know what it's like to be bullied and not have friends.

 

But I didn't commit suicide. I manned up, got physical once or twice, and showed people I was not to be messed with.

 

If people are too... I don't know. Weak? Nice? Too something to do that, then I'm not going to feel sorry for them when they go to the extreme.

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So you guys are totally okay with being mean to people.

 

No, but I'm not totally okay with allowing "meanness" to overtake your emotions and in some cases your life either.

 

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I get the difference between a minor case and one like that.

 

I can't say I've experience suicide due to cyberbullying, but I can say that I was bullied for much of my life. I had few friends at a time, and I was beat up at least two or three times. A lot of people still don't like me and make no qualms about saying so. But now I have friends and I am aware of the social consequences of actions. I stood up in eighth grade to a bully and punched him in the face. That summer, I stood up to someone else (who had wronged me multiple times) driving him to tears just with words. I know what it's like to be bullied and not have friends.

 

But I didn't commit suicide. I manned up, got physical once or twice, and showed people I was not to be messed with.

 

If people are too... I don't know. Weak? Nice? Too something to do that, then I'm not going to feel sorry for them when they go to the extreme.

 

It's good to know because you were able to escape it, everyone else who can't do the same is automatically inferior and doesn't deserve sympathetic regard.

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I get the difference between a minor case and one like that.

 

I can't say I've experience suicide due to cyberbullying, but I can say that I was bullied for much of my life. I had few friends at a time, and I was beat up at least two or three times. A lot of people still don't like me and make no qualms about saying so. But now I have friends and I am aware of the social consequences of actions. I stood up in eighth grade to a bully and punched him in the face. That summer, I stood up to someone else (who had wronged me multiple times) driving him to tears just with words. I know what it's like to be bullied and not have friends.

 

But I didn't commit suicide. I manned up, got physical once or twice, and showed people I was not to be messed with.

 

If people are too... I don't know. Weak? Nice? Too something to do that, then I'm not going to feel sorry for them when they go to the extreme.

 

I'm seeing a pattern here. If someone is not like you, doesn't agree with you, or can't do what you do, they are automatically wrong/weak/dumb. Interesting.

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