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Let's consider the advantages and disadvantages.

 

Advantages:

 

- Much more runes, bolt racks

- More exp

 

Disadvantages:

 

- Time wasted because Barrows item chance doesn't improve

 

One could argue that you make up for the time wasted by getting more runes. I usually get a kill count of 12-15.

 

Thoughts?

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I'd say dont get it; or at most go to 8-10 as its not wasting too much time

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3 is optimal for maximum death runes. Any more and you'll increase the number of bloods that you get. Bolt racks are not worth it anymore. So yes, get 3 kills per run. No more, no less.

 

It annoys me when people say kc like this for barrows.

Because you don't get 3kc, you get 9kc

6 brothers + 3 others.

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3 is optimal for maximum death runes. Any more and you'll increase the number of bloods that you get. Bolt racks are not worth it anymore. So yes, get 3 kills per run. No more, no less.

 

It annoys me when people say kc like this for barrows.

Because you don't get 3kc, you get 9kc

6 brothers + 3 others.

 

Well saying 9 kc might confuse some people because I am sure newer players are not used to having the brothers counted as kc rather than having their names displayed for being killed.

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3 is optimal for maximum death runes. Any more and you'll increase the number of bloods that you get. Bolt racks are not worth it anymore. So yes, get 3 kills per run. No more, no less.

 

It annoys me when people say kc like this for barrows.

Because you don't get 3kc, you get 9kc

6 brothers + 3 others.

 

Depending on how lucky you get , you can end up without a single kc.Hunt the right chest to get in the tunnels, go towards the chest and just open it and tele out.

:rolleyes:

Anyway, looking at the topic he most likely kills all 6 brothers so 3kc is right.

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3 is optimal for maximum death runes. Any more and you'll increase the number of bloods that you get. Bolt racks are not worth it anymore. So yes, get 3 kills per run. No more, no less.

 

It annoys me when people say kc like this for barrows.

Because you don't get 3kc, you get 9kc

6 brothers + 3 others.

 

Well saying 9 kc might confuse some people because I am sure newer players are not used to having the brothers counted as kc rather than having their names displayed for being killed.

 

Wow they changed it?

So didn't know that.

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From Tip.it Guide

 

Kill Count Drops

0-1 Mind Rune, Chaos Rune, Death Rune, Coins and Barrow pieces only

2+ Blood Rune are possible drops

3+ Bolt Racks are possible drops

5+ Half keys are rare possible drops

6+ Dragon Medium helms are rare possible drops

 

I usually just do 6, but that's just because this chart doesn't go past 6. :thumbsup:

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Go to a site called Runescoop and read the barrows killcount research. The Tip.it guide explains nearly nothing, as usual.

 

runescoop is aweful; the research methods are flawed and sample sizes stupid. eg there's 1 guide where the sample was 4.5 dragons.

tip.it may not list in-depth research data or specify which works out the most efficient, but it covers all the information you need to know to make an informed choice for yourself.

 

And anything extra you wish to know is what this forum is here for.

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there was also a guide where they determined that no ring>warrior>zerker :rolleyes:

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Wasn't a typo, he actually got more kills without a ring. He didn't actually put that order with >s and <s, just tables and graphs.

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Must've been a typo.

 

No ring<Warrior<Zerker

 

it was no typo it was backed up by the typical runescoop poorly collected data on samples of about 3 kills, if memory serves each rings data was drawn from a different number of kills on entirely different monsters with completely different setups aka it showed nothing at all about the rings themselves.

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The research used decent enough and similar gear, just no potions, which is ridiculous, also it was based on a sample of 30 minutes. Which means no ring did in fact kill 2 additional black dragons in the end on a total of 40.

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SS vs Zs for waterfiends suffers from exactly the same problems as the berserker vs warrior ring research. He did 20 minute tests and more importantly, he used a stopwatch to count in-combat time (e.g. manually starting it when attacking a monster, ending it when it dies).

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