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[Quyneax]

Imo the problem with requiring wins is that you either require all trimmers on one team, fighting the noobs, or trimmers will get worse than 2/3 win rate (due to power being evenly spread), which would make private games more attractive, which doesn't encourage legitimate playing at all. 2v1 boosting or 1v1 boosting with multilogging are both much more attractive.

[Fallstar]

I think the problem most trimmers had with it, is that the cwars requirement was the only thing that really stopped people from going after trim. Not a chance in hell I'd have done 5k games, but depending on how easy the requirement is made, I might go for trim now. I imagine plenty of people feel the same.

[Quyneax]

I think the problem most trimmers had with it, is that the cwars requirement was the only thing that really stopped people from going after trim. Not a chance in hell I'd have done 5k games, but depending on how easy the requirement is made, I might go for trim now. I imagine plenty of people feel the same.

Yeah, those people need to get lost :P. No offence, but I think it's really crazy that the requirement is so big time-wise, and I haven't seen anyone who wasn't close to getting it in favour. Quite a few people who are close are against it though. No more than a few hundred players, if that, would say the 5k requirement is good, clean fun and/or a solid design decision.

 

Basically all of trimmed comp, including levels and everything, is 30% Castle Wars or more, if you do everything efficiently. That needs to be brought down to 5% or less, it's only one friggin minigame.

[Bxpprod]

Still gunna take 5k games whoop whoop whoop

[Quyneax]

Still gunna take 5k games whoop whoop whoop

One suggestion on the thread was any one profound item being enough, which is 650 tickets for the helmet. That would be... hell, but doable.

 

Funny thing that 650 tickets would be 'doable' when that actually takes 135 hours minimum.

[Aiel]

just make it a full set of hybrid...includes more content, is less ridiculous, and would breathe some life back into a few dead minigames.

[JeRambo]

I would be fine with full intricate. Or maybe they'll release an entire new set of armour that require 10,000 tickets to buy the whole set for trim!

 

What other changes do you think will be coming to the game?

 

I'm guessing allowing helmets and capes will be one.

[Bxpprod]

just make it a full set of hybrid...includes more content, is less ridiculous, and would breathe some life back into a few dead minigames.

[Leon S]

Here's my suggestion to make Strength, Ranged and Magic more valuable.

 

Right now, you only deal 1 damage for every Strength/Ranged/Magic level. Most of your damage comes from your weapon. It's almost useless to level your, say, Strength past a certain point.

 

My suggestion is to do the same what they did to Constitution. For every level, you deal 4 damage, up from 1. Weapon damage scaling will be toned down.

 

Here's how weapon damage scales per level currently:

 

Fastest weapons: 9,6 damage

Fast weapons: 12,25 damage

Average weapons (1h): 14,9 damage

Average weapons (2h): 22,85 damage

 

How weapon damage would scale afterwards:

 

Fastest weapons: 6,6 damage

Fast weapons: 9,25 damage

Average weapons (1h): 11.9 damage

Average weapons (2h): 19,85 damage

 

DPS will still be the exact same, and Strength would be worthwhile to level again :)

[Quyneax]

This would change how lower levelled equipment is handled:

 

Ex. fast 1h comparison

70 att 70 str: 857+70 damage

80 att 80 str: 980+80 damage

90 att 90 str: 1102+90 damage

 

Now with your system:

647+280

740+320

832+360

 

Which is a better weapon vs strength balance imo. Looking at uneven distribution:

70 att 90 str, old vs new:

857+90 = 947

647+360 = 1007

 

90 att 70 str, old vs new:

1102+70 = 1172

832+280 = 1112

 

The difference isn't exactly huge, but still 4-5% or so. Actually not a bad thing, prolongs lifetime of your old weapons a little bit.

 

Easiest way to make strength viable is to make it work for ranged and magic as well of course. I would be in favour of that, provided you could train strength with all three of course, because it removes the inequality of ranged and magic having only one skill to train. For ranged especially this makes it much easier to get up to good dps.

 

My preferred method is still a multiplier system like we had pre-EoC though, I like the old (x + equipment bonus) / x * (y + level) because any level boost also affects equipment straight away and vice versa, so you could have 100/80 strength (with say y=20) and get straight-up 20% dps boost, rather than +80 straight max hit. +20% damage is always the same, +80 damage is different depending on what weapon you use.

[Leon S]

Did you know that critical hits always deal a min amount of damage? I believe it's 75% damage, up to 125% damage max.

[Quyneax]

Yes, autoattack crits 75-125% of max damage, ability crits 100% of max damage. Autoattack crits can actually hit higher than basic ability crits (except when taking basics like Snipe/Sever/frag shot obviously, but ok). I think my max with Sagittarian shortbow is about 2.5k :o.

 

Ports/dg update: still 1995 port score, will get shipwright upgrade for Admiral rank tomorrow-ish, scrolled have been failing/not rolled lately so yeah :(. Good progress on chi/laquer/plate though.

1.3m to 113 dg, 1.5m to 400m overall, can just about make it to 113 before 400m.

 

Also did a bit of 2007scape. FYI: moss giants hit up to 12. Cake protects over pebble. RQ x2.

[Aiel]

Also did a bit of 2007scape. FYI: moss giants hit up to 12. Cake protects over pebble. RQ x2.

not going to lie, I laughed when you said you died the second time.

Some [bleep]er stole my unblessed holy symbol when he said he was going to bless it for me, so I rq 07scape too.

(when I say I RQ I mean I have an essay, a lab and a project due in the next 6 hours and I haven't started any of them yet..)

[Fallstar]

1. Got KO'd by a moss giant.

2. Got KO'd by a fire giant.

3. Realized I didn't get the urn.

4. Success!

[Lose No Hope]

Hai Q! <3

 

I'm getting back into slayer. I haven't done any combat since EOC came out and I'm completely clueless. This will be fun.

[Quyneax]

Slayer is actually much less multi-style than we thought on EoC release, though it definitely is required for some tasks and useful for quite a few. You can pretty much maul anything though.

 

Finished Waterfall and Vampire/Demon Slayer. Third time waterfall was easy, the fire giants were all under attack anyway :P.

 

Just had the easiest med ever, not a very fast time, but only three monsters to kill: primal warrior (gd), skeletal mage (mime), runed behemoth (idk just happened).

[Leon S]

Overloads give both a visible and an invisible boost. Visible boosts add +1 damage per level, invisible boost adds +8 damage per level. So overloads give a total boost of +9 damage per level.

 

The invisible boost is applied after the weapon speed "penalty" (80% for fast weapons, 66.67% for average weapons). The visible boost before.

 

An example. I'm using a chaotic longsword with 99 Strength, I'm overloaded and I'm using the Punish ability.

 

980 + 116 = 1,096

1,096 * 0.8 = 876

867 + (17 * 8) = 1,012

 

Turmoil works in a similar way. It adds 20 invisible levels. Torment adds 24 invisible levels.

 

Edit: never mind. Torment works in a different way. Magic as a whole works different. I don't like that.

[Ambler]

Slayer is actually much less multi-style than we thought on EoC release, though it definitely is required for some tasks and useful for quite a few. You can pretty much maul anything though.

You can combo maul -> offhand weapon aswell, which is nice. Just put both on bar. It gets a bit annoying with momentum when you get those automatic abilities, but oh well. More dps! :lol:

[Quyneax]

How does maul > offhand work exactly? Does that mean you can do an OH attack and maul attack every 7 ticks (as opposed to just maul every 6)?

 

The invisible boost is applied after the weapon speed "penalty" (80% for fast weapons, 66.67% for average weapons). The visible boost before.

 

Turmoil works in a similar way. It adds 20 invisible levels.

 

Edit: never mind. Torment works in a different way. Magic as a whole works different. I don't like that.

That's... curious, smells like a horrible patchjob. It does mean fast weapons gain more dps from turmoil/overload if you're not using abilities, I think?

And yeah, magic is screwed as always.

 

Got 2k port score, 2018 now, and Admiral title. One more port upgrade (workshop) and two totems and I'm done. Much later I'll have to replace telescopes with jade statues probably, but that won't be a problem.

[Saradomin_Mage]

aevbundsgvidcv I'm 2017 port score :((((

[Quyneax]

aevbundsgvidcv I'm 2017 port score :((((

Soon it'll be about who has the most scrolls, and I got one in the past week only :(.

[Kaida23]

Admiral Q. I rather like that. :thumbup:

[Aiel]

so when are the double story missions??? I just finished the singles and it skipped straight to triples! I rly dont want to get b& for bug abuse.

 

 

 

/troll

[Quyneax]

Admiral Q. I rather like that. :thumbup:

Thanks :3.

 

I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty).

 

 

Yay. And yes, I finally have the lowest xp for my total level again :).

[Aiel]

I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty).

I'm completely landlocked, you don't have high enough landfaring for a decent success rate.