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14-Sept-2011 � Ritual of the Mahjarrat

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Silly glitch when you go into the house east of Edgeville. Those lunatics are still babbling on about Lucien, but I don't have the heart to tell them... But apparently I just completed Temple of Ikov? Oh, what I would give to be a nub again.

 

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Then my account got rolled back to June 17, 2002 and time collapsed in on itself.


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Btw, I could've sworn that, if you rightclicked good ole Azzy to examine him, his name was Azzandra (missing an "a" in there)


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Are the Mahjarrat designs changed in their other quests?

 

They all look same as their prior quests except Khazard & Azzandra who were in human form to blend in.

Hazeel I'm not sure but I vague recall him being mahjratt look since they updated hazeel cult.


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Are the Mahjarrat designs changed in their other quests?

 

They all look same as their prior quests except Khazard & Azzandra who were in human form to blend in.

Hazeel I'm not sure but I vague recall him being mahjratt look since they updated hazeel cult.

 

It sucks that you cant go and talk to Sliske after the quest is done. I don't care if he tried to enslave me, he's still the best one of the lot.


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Does Sliske even realize that you've been working with Azzanadraa in order to restore Zaros to power? Why would he attack someone that's been helping to restore his god? :mellow:


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Does Sliske even realize that you've been working with Azzanadraa in order to restore Zaros to power? Why would he attack someone that's been helping to restore his god? :mellow:

 

Because mahjratt all have their own goals and rarely co-operate; besides Sliske obviously isn't too fussed if he was he would of done something by now. Afterall he's been free where as Azzandra was imprisoned until we recently freed him.

Sliske likes having his powerful toys, you as a great hero of the age are an obvious choice.


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Does Sliske even realize that you've been working with Azzanadraa in order to restore Zaros to power? Why would he attack someone that's been helping to restore his god? :mellow:

 

He was trying to turn you into a wight to make a pawn out of you. Weather you're working with Azzandra or his slave, it's all the same to him.

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Although Sliske technically is allied with Zaros, he's pretty much a secretive jerk and nobody else really likes him. He's probably as self serving as Lucien, but he's not up front about it and waits for his opportunities rather than actively seeking them out, because he prefers to hide where it's safe.

 

And that's why Lucien is the shrimp on the barbie, and he's not.

 

side note: does that mean that if we get sliske to kill more people, we can has more barrow?


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Although Sliske technically is allied with Zaros, he's pretty much a secretive jerk and nobody else really likes him. He's probably as self serving as Lucien, but he's not up front about it and waits for his opportunities rather than actively seeking them out, because he prefers to hide where it's safe.

 

And that's why Lucien is the shrimp on the barbie, and he's not.

 

side note: does that mean that if we get sliske to kill more people, we can has more barrow?

Additionally, does this mean that he can only channel his powers through servants and/or is physically weak?

He did no actual combat himself; I watched pretty closely...


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DIdn't we add tele orbs to the Stone of Jas? wouldn't that make sending it into the earth kind of pointless as the temple knights could get it back?

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Got my final Mining and Agility level today and not long after finished the quest. Story line was amazing, dialog was awesome and the cut scene's, best cut scenes in the game so far?

 

As for the final fights, i took a full invent and PakYak full of rock tails, 5 super restores and 2 Sara brews, a Tele and a dds. I did all the fights with that. Not to mention it was my first attempt also :)


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Although Sliske technically is allied with Zaros, he's pretty much a secretive jerk and nobody else really likes him. He's probably as self serving as Lucien, but he's not up front about it and waits for his opportunities rather than actively seeking them out, because he prefers to hide where it's safe.

 

And that's why Lucien is the shrimp on the barbie, and he's not.

 

side note: does that mean that if we get sliske to kill more people, we can has more barrow?

Additionally, does this mean that he can only channel his powers through servants and/or is physically weak?

He did no actual combat himself; I watched pretty closely...

Zemouregal described him as one of the more powerful Mahjarrat, though he also says he's "a slippery fellow" so he may have not been at some former rituals which would have diminished his power. He summoned the brothers during the fights before the sacrifice so he wouldn't have had his power fully restored by then.


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Although Sliske technically is allied with Zaros, he's pretty much a secretive jerk and nobody else really likes him. He's probably as self serving as Lucien, but he's not up front about it and waits for his opportunities rather than actively seeking them out, because he prefers to hide where it's safe.

 

And that's why Lucien is the shrimp on the barbie, and he's not.

 

side note: does that mean that if we get sliske to kill more people, we can has more barrow?

Additionally, does this mean that he can only channel his powers through servants and/or is physically weak?

He did no actual combat himself; I watched pretty closely...

Well, when you think about it, the barrows brothers have their own power, even though it was cultivated and ultimately enslaved by Sliske. It's like a relay, where Sliske uses a small amount of power to control the much greater strength of the barrows brothers. At least that's what I think. I wouldn't want to fight Sliske head-on even without the brothers on his side.


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Although Sliske technically is allied with Zaros, he's pretty much a secretive jerk and nobody else really likes him. He's probably as self serving as Lucien, but he's not up front about it and waits for his opportunities rather than actively seeking them out, because he prefers to hide where it's safe.

 

And that's why Lucien is the shrimp on the barbie, and he's not.

 

side note: does that mean that if we get sliske to kill more people, we can has more barrow?

Additionally, does this mean that he can only channel his powers through servants and/or is physically weak?

He did no actual combat himself; I watched pretty closely...

Well, when you think about it, the barrows brothers have their own power, even though it was cultivated and ultimately enslaved by Sliske. It's like a relay, where Sliske uses a small amount of power to control the much greater strength of the barrows brothers. At least that's what I think. I wouldn't want to fight Sliske head-on even without the brothers on his side.

As far as I remember, the Barrows brothers were powerful, but their abilities (otherwise "powers") were given to them by Sliske. I didn't see Akrisae do much during the fight / I don't remember how Akrisae fought before he was turned into another BB, but I wouldn't think his robes were Barrows "grade". Another question of mine is whether this is another detail of Sliske's transformation ability or a simple continuity gap... And of course how the abilities of the wight are chosen...

... And if we were wearing a Barrows set if we'd just have become another copy of that Barrows brother lol.


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I actually like Sliske, altho he can be a real jerk but even if he tried to "enslave" us, I think it was made canon he can only do so with the weak-minded, and Akrisae wasn't exactly a tough head, maybe he was just trying to see if we could resist his attempt, afterall, all of the zarosian mahjarrats made us, in one way or another, prove our "loyalty": Azzanadra through the multiple tasks he gives us, Jhallan by helping him find a place to hide, Wahisietel by making us provide information about other mahjarrats and making us help Azzanadra and Arrav, even if we helped Hazeel in the past (which actually gives him reasons to suspect about us and hide his real identity) and of course, Akthanakos by making us help him scape his prison.

 

Also, anyone else noticed 2 mahjarrats missed the ritual?


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At the end of the quest you pick a number between 1-5 to hide the Stone of Jas. Do you think this will be needed in future? Like for us to remember? He said it was to do with coordinates, do you think will can find it again without a new quest?


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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?


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Also, the question from the FAQ caught my interest:

“Why did you release bolts that are only useful on specific monsters, instead of bolts that are above rune for bossing and PvP?”

 

Paul: I think it provides more gameplay depth if different equipment is useful in different situations. Not every new weapon needs to be something that will send the previous best weapon obsolete and then become obsolete itself when the next new weapon comes out. Bolts that are strong against specific creatures also gives me the opportunity to provide storyline clues.

So, perhaps Wallasalkibane and Basiliskbane arrows/bolts aren't going to be that useless after all?

 

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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?

[hide]When Jhallan is sacrificed in a cutscene, you might notice the Strange Power animation playing on your character, Akrisae and Tiffy.[/hide]


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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Bilrach

 

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Bilrach did not attend to 18th Ritual of Rejuvination. This suggests that he is either dead, or much weaker due to not getting rejuvinated. If you speak to Ali the Wise after the Ritual of the Mahjarrat, he will discuss the strange power that occurred before Dungeoneering was released. He will confirm that the strange power was "A case of the wrong Mahjarrat being in the wrong place at the wrong time.." and that it was "Such a waste of power."

 

In the quest Ritual of the Mahjarrat, when two other mahjarrat die, a similiar strange power occurs and lifts all humans present at the ritual. Ali the Wise also confirms this phenomenon, saying "When one of our kind dies, all that they were dissipates from their body."

 

-end quote-

 

So Bilrach finds what he's looking for in Daemonheim, but it is too powerful and it kills him (or he doesn't find it but something kills him anyway), this caused the strange power event and allowed us players to enter Daemonheim.

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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Bilrach

 

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Bilrach did not attend to 18th Ritual of Rejuvination. This suggests that he is either dead, or much weaker due to not getting rejuvinated. If you speak to Ali the Wise after the Ritual of the Mahjarrat, he will discuss the strange power that occurred before Dungeoneering was released. He will confirm that the strange power was "A case of the wrong Mahjarrat being in the wrong place at the wrong time.." and that it was "Such a waste of power."

 

In the quest Ritual of the Mahjarrat, when two other mahjarrat die, a similiar strange power occurs and lifts all humans present at the ritual. Ali the Wise also confirms this phenomenon, saying "When one of our kind dies, all that they were dissipates from their body."

 

-end quote-

 

So Bilrach finds what he's looking for in Daemonheim, but it is too powerful and it kills him (or he doesn't find it but something kills him anyway), this caused the strange power event and allowed us players to enter Daemonheim.

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But how powerful would Bilrach have to have been when he died for his death to be felt so far away? Do any of the seers say anything about feeling the ritual like what they did about the opening of daemonheim?

 

And wasnt zaros's attempt to return to the world supposed to be kept quiet for now? So why did Azzandara start blasting away with god power and shouting zaros at the top of his lungs? Wouldn't that have tipped off the half dozen most powerful zammy followers and some of the stronger saradomin followers that something was up?


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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Bilrach

 

[hide=quote]

Bilrach did not attend to 18th Ritual of Rejuvination. This suggests that he is either dead, or much weaker due to not getting rejuvinated. If you speak to Ali the Wise after the Ritual of the Mahjarrat, he will discuss the strange power that occurred before Dungeoneering was released. He will confirm that the strange power was "A case of the wrong Mahjarrat being in the wrong place at the wrong time.." and that it was "Such a waste of power."

 

In the quest Ritual of the Mahjarrat, when two other mahjarrat die, a similiar strange power occurs and lifts all humans present at the ritual. Ali the Wise also confirms this phenomenon, saying "When one of our kind dies, all that they were dissipates from their body."

 

-end quote-

 

So Bilrach finds what he's looking for in Daemonheim, but it is too powerful and it kills him (or he doesn't find it but something kills him anyway), this caused the strange power event and allowed us players to enter Daemonheim.

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But how powerful would Bilrach have to have been when he died for his death to be felt so far away? Do any of the seers say anything about feeling the ritual like what they did about the opening of daemonheim?

 

And wasnt zaros's attempt to return to the world supposed to be kept quiet for now? So why did Azzandara start blasting away with god power and shouting zaros at the top of his lungs? Wouldn't that have tipped off the half dozen most powerful zammy followers and some of the stronger saradomin followers that something was up?

 

 

[hide]Because when rejuvenated he could take on entire armies by himself, Azzanadra is easily the stronegest of them. See zemourgal's notes: they were scared to free him even after he was imprisoned for more than 4-5 rituals. With him at this power level Zaros' rebirth cannot be stopped. Btw since when can a mahjarrat die from a simple wound? I thought they were kinda, immortal? (except for the ritual)[/hide]


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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Bilrach

 

[hide=quote]

Bilrach did not attend to 18th Ritual of Rejuvination. This suggests that he is either dead, or much weaker due to not getting rejuvinated. If you speak to Ali the Wise after the Ritual of the Mahjarrat, he will discuss the strange power that occurred before Dungeoneering was released. He will confirm that the strange power was "A case of the wrong Mahjarrat being in the wrong place at the wrong time.." and that it was "Such a waste of power."

 

In the quest Ritual of the Mahjarrat, when two other mahjarrat die, a similiar strange power occurs and lifts all humans present at the ritual. Ali the Wise also confirms this phenomenon, saying "When one of our kind dies, all that they were dissipates from their body."

 

-end quote-

 

So Bilrach finds what he's looking for in Daemonheim, but it is too powerful and it kills him (or he doesn't find it but something kills him anyway), this caused the strange power event and allowed us players to enter Daemonheim.

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But how powerful would Bilrach have to have been when he died for his death to be felt so far away? Do any of the seers say anything about feeling the ritual like what they did about the opening of daemonheim?

 

And wasnt zaros's attempt to return to the world supposed to be kept quiet for now? So why did Azzandara start blasting away with god power and shouting zaros at the top of his lungs? Wouldn't that have tipped off the half dozen most powerful zammy followers and some of the stronger saradomin followers that something was up?

 

 

[hide]Because when rejuvenated he could take on entire armies by himself, Azzanadra is easily the stronegest of them. See zemourgal's notes: they were scared to free him even after he was imprisoned for more than 4-5 rituals. With him at this power level Zaros' rebirth cannot be stopped. Btw since when can a mahjarrat die from a simple wound? I thought they were kinda, immortal? (except for the ritual)[/hide]

[hide]Normally a Mahjarrat wouldn't die from just a fleshwound. However, Lucien was stabbed with the Staff of Armadyl, a weapon that was capable of banishing a god.[/hide]


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word on the street is that bilrach is dead, apparently the dungeoneering "strange power" killed him, or his death is heavily implied

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Heavily implied by what?

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Bilrach

 

[hide=quote]

Bilrach did not attend to 18th Ritual of Rejuvination. This suggests that he is either dead, or much weaker due to not getting rejuvinated. If you speak to Ali the Wise after the Ritual of the Mahjarrat, he will discuss the strange power that occurred before Dungeoneering was released. He will confirm that the strange power was "A case of the wrong Mahjarrat being in the wrong place at the wrong time.." and that it was "Such a waste of power."

 

In the quest Ritual of the Mahjarrat, when two other mahjarrat die, a similiar strange power occurs and lifts all humans present at the ritual. Ali the Wise also confirms this phenomenon, saying "When one of our kind dies, all that they were dissipates from their body."

 

-end quote-

 

So Bilrach finds what he's looking for in Daemonheim, but it is too powerful and it kills him (or he doesn't find it but something kills him anyway), this caused the strange power event and allowed us players to enter Daemonheim.

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But how powerful would Bilrach have to have been when he died for his death to be felt so far away? Do any of the seers say anything about feeling the ritual like what they did about the opening of daemonheim?

 

And wasnt zaros's attempt to return to the world supposed to be kept quiet for now? So why did Azzandara start blasting away with god power and shouting zaros at the top of his lungs? Wouldn't that have tipped off the half dozen most powerful zammy followers and some of the stronger saradomin followers that something was up?

 

 

[hide]Because when rejuvenated he could take on entire armies by himself, Azzanadra is easily the stronegest of them. See zemourgal's notes: they were scared to free him even after he was imprisoned for more than 4-5 rituals. With him at this power level Zaros' rebirth cannot be stopped. Btw since when can a mahjarrat die from a simple wound? I thought they were kinda, immortal? (except for the ritual)[/hide]

 

[hide]I think it's safe to assume at this point that the dragonkin are not simply guardians of the Stone of Jas but something more. Their "rage" at its use, ability to sense who has used the stone, and track down its location (see Kethsi) suggests there is a strong, unique connection linking the two. Since we know the Stone is a powerful artifact that can give the user a number of abilities, it's not much of a stretch of the imagination that the dragonkin can call upon a vestige of that power and turn it against Lucien.

 

Besides Azzanadra, who was suggested to be immortal when he was sealed up in his pyramid, none of the Majharrat have that ability. After all, one of them has to be sacrificed to die at each ritual.[/hide]


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