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14-Sept-2011 – Ritual of the Mahjarrat


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Interesting barrows note from the KB. Directly contradicts what mod Emilee says in the "Game Update FAQ - 14/09/11:


“How are Barrows drop rates affected by the new brother? By killing him, do you have an increased of getting all of the pieces or only his set?”

Mod Chris L: The barrows have some unique drop mechanics. Akrisae being in the barrows has not increased the chance of you getting all of the other pieces. As with the existing behaviour, you can only get Akrisae's gear from the chest if you killed the Akrisae barrow wight beforehand. This being said, his appearance has resulted in some interesting possibilities. The "best" chance at getting barrows gear from the chest is if 6 Barrows brothers have been killed. This still stands. So, for example, if you know you don't want any of Karil's gear, you can completely skip killing him, kill Akrisae and the other brothers (resulting in 6 wight kills) then head down to the chest where you stand the same "best" chance, except you've now removed the chance to get the gear you don't want."

QFC: 15-16-871-63202569

P.S. The barrows question is near the bottom.

EDIT: thought, they don't actually contradict each other. If you must kill at least 6 barrow wights for the best chance at an item, then technically killing 7 would still be the same chances of a barrows item as killing six and therefore still yields the highest chance of a barrows item...

Hmm... Trust mod, or trust KB....?

...Yeah, I wasn't killing Torag anyways. I don't care if killing him along with the other 6 results in higher chance of loot, it means that I have a higher chance of getting his really crappy excuse for loot.

Trust Mod, The only reason you when should trust the KB is if you compare it to runescapeWiki lol. I don't understand why the KB drafts are not checked by the makers of the update before they go live...

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I can see why KB articles may be wrong when they go live; afterall they have to have time to write the things and last minute changes would make for errors; but its more the fact these errors persist for months and months if not years; or are so wildly wrong they couldn't possibly be a last minute tweak (eg showing a weapon with +200 crush when it actually has 0)

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This quest was so much fun :)

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BTW, whatever happened to the Zarosian guys having animal things? Sliske with the snake, Akthanakos with the camel head, and Azzy had that jackal headress on.

Why not have had Lucien forced Movario to revive Hazeel? Then he could've been there for everyone.

How did Lucien know Jhallan was down there? Not adequately explained.
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the mahjarrat can sense the presence of each other, so lucien probably was able to sense jhallan somewhere near the ritual site, and when he did not see him at all in combat, he probably deduced that he was hiding underground

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I think the best way to deal with Akrisae is Korasi specs. It's very rare that he doesn't die in rapier > ks > rapier > ks > rapier (spec recover of course).
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BTW, whatever happened to the Zarosian guys having animal things? Sliske with the snake, Akthanakos with the camel head, and Azzy had that jackal headress on.

Why not have had Lucien forced Movario to revive Hazeel? Then he could've been there for everyone.

How did Lucien know Jhallan was down there? Not adequately explained.


1) That was never a "thing" Sliske snake reference is only related to his stealthy and sly nature. Anthanakos camel head was part of Enhkara's doing, Azzandra's jackal head was a disguise to fit in with the Desert Pantheon god images to help him gain our trust

2) Probably because Hazeel being revived is implied to be quite tricky after we destroyed the easy way to do it (assuming you didn't help him) and Movario isn't exactly brilliant plus he doesn't work for Lucien any more he even says so in this quest; for his uselessness see his failure to find the Stone of Jas after years of research vs us doing it in about 5 minutes and his wandering aimlessly around looking for the stone and we find it quite easily. Plus the factor Mahjratt don't help each other out, each for their own.

3) Mahjaratt can sense each other, Jhallan was hoping his weak state and being hidden would mean they overlooked him. Lucien was super boosted by Staff of Armadyl and Stone of Jas so was more powerful and as such could feel Jhallan. and saw him as weak prey for the ritual.

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Akrisae is incredibly easy to kill. You can almost always two or three-hit him with either melee and ranged switches or melee and korasi switches.

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I think the best way to deal with Akrisae is Korasi specs. It's very rare that he doesn't die in rapier > ks > rapier > ks > rapier (spec recover of course).


Suppose it depends how you do the barrows, I personally found little issue with taking mage of auto-cast then just flicking between whip and x-bow to down him nice and easily.
Could prob do it jsut as easy with sol melee instead of whip to save space.
This is using the fairly basic maging all but ahrims method.

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Akrisae is incredibly easy to kill. You can almost always two or three-hit him with either melee and ranged switches or melee and korasi switches.

Yes he is. Really, I was worried about nothing.
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Zemouregal's notes explain that Hazeel had been resurrected even if you didn't do so yourself. Why he wasn't at the Ritual for those who didn't was probably just a mistake.
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Zemouregal's notes explain that Hazeel had been resurrected even if you didn't do so yourself. Why he wasn't at the Ritual for those who didn't was probably just a mistake.


Wrong

If you did NOT resurect Hazeel or have not done Hazeel Cult:

One of the Zamorak-aligned faction. A worthy warrior. Generally, I'd consider Hazeel an ally.

Hazeel seems to be gaining in power; he has gained many followers and much territory.

Disaster has struck for Hazeel: Saradomin-worshiping human filth have managed to defeat him and banished him from the living realms. The question is, will his followers be able to resurrect him before the next ritual?


Once the quest is completed if you DID resurrect Hazeel this sentence appears at the end

Well, his followers may have left things rather last-minute, but they've managed it - Hazeel is back in play!


tl;dr - The notes only say Hazeel is resurrected if you resurrected him

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2) Probably because Hazeel being revived is implied to be quite tricky after we destroyed the easy way to do it (assuming you didn't help him) and Movario isn't exactly brilliant plus he doesn't work for Lucien any more he even says so in this quest; for his uselessness see his failure to find the Stone of Jas after years of research vs us doing it in about 5 minutes and his wandering aimlessly around looking for the stone and we find it quite easily. Plus the factor Mahjratt don't help each other out, each for their own.

If you recall, we only found the stone because we stole his research and followed him. It was Movario who figured out it was in the chasm, not us--he just couldn't figure out a way down. And once we showed up, it was his idea to cast the blue flame spell to get the light creatures to go down instead of across. If he hadn't decided to help us, we wouldn't have gotten very far.

If anything, we're the idiots--how many years did we go through that cave and never even suspect?

It's more likely that Lucien just didn't care about Hazeel. Notice his completely ignoring Zemouregal during the ritual.

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Just beat the quest probably my favorite quest yet..one thing that annoyed me was after watching the entire cut seen with lucien and the dragonkin I miss clicked and I had to re-watch the entire cut seen again lol >.<

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2) Probably because Hazeel being revived is implied to be quite tricky after we destroyed the easy way to do it (assuming you didn't help him) and Movario isn't exactly brilliant plus he doesn't work for Lucien any more he even says so in this quest; for his uselessness see his failure to find the Stone of Jas after years of research vs us doing it in about 5 minutes and his wandering aimlessly around looking for the stone and we find it quite easily. Plus the factor Mahjratt don't help each other out, each for their own.

If you recall, we only found the stone because we stole his research and followed him. It was Movario who figured out it was in the chasm, not us--he just couldn't figure out a way down. And once we showed up, it was his idea to cast the blue flame spell to get the light creatures to go down instead of across. If he hadn't decided to help us, we wouldn't have gotten very far.

If anything, we're the idiots--how many years did we go through that cave and never even suspect?

It's more likely that Lucien just didn't care about Hazeel. Notice his completely ignoring Zemouregal during the ritual.



Well, we're not that idiots, storywise, we only know that dungeon to Juna for less than a year, as we are still in year 169.

About Lucien ignoring everyone: well, he thought he was the uber-one, why would he care then that one of his brothers dies? :P The fewer of the powerful ones there are left, the fewer the (possible) resistance against him.

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While this quest was a lot shorter and easier than i had anticipated i still enjoyed it a lot and i'm waiting for more.

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Just beat the quest probably my favorite quest yet..one thing that annoyed me was after watching the entire cut seen with lucien and the dragonkin I miss clicked and I had to re-watch the entire cut seen again lol >.<


That happened to me during another cut-scene sequence -- misclicked and it was "deja vu all over again" ... :unsure:

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The "strange power" you felt when the mahjarrat was sacrificed... Did it happen when Lucien died? If so, I guess we know what happened to Bilrach...
If not, is it possible that we were also rejuvinated by the ritual?
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The "strange power" you felt when the mahjarrat was sacrificed... Did it happen when Lucien died? If so, I guess we know what happened to Bilrach...
If not, is it possible that we were also rejuvinated by the ritual?


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The "strange power" you felt when the mahjarrat was sacrificed... Did it happen when Lucien died? If so, I guess we know what happened to Bilrach...
If not, is it possible that we were also rejuvinated by the ritual?


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