emers8529 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 not lookin to get too good of one but.. im wondering if this http://www.ebay.com/itm/400184024333?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 is worth it and if it will work with my computer. its an emachines et1831-05 just need something that will push out more than 50 fps in css .-. I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Should work as the sockets match, worth it; its up to you really.Only gaining 1.1ghz processing power, but it would quadruple you cache from 512kb to 2mb. To me it seems rather expensive for the specs, but then I use AMD and the socket you have is kinda old-ish so processor options are scarcer. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emers8529 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 as long as it works and i wont have to get a new psu for it i think ima get it. a lil more ghz power is better than none :) I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 What's the graphics card on your current system? I'd be willing to bet that that's where your bottleneck is, not the CPU. Personally, spending $100 on a socket that is so old seems like a bad idea. RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emers8529 Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 What's the graphics card on your current system? I'd be willing to bet that that's where your bottleneck is, not the CPU. Personally, spending $100 on a socket that is so old seems like a bad idea. i have an nvidia gefore 9400gt and i've decided to get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116385 I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I would advise against it. The socket 775 has no upgrade path at all, and you will notice minimal difference. If you upgrade anything, I would upgrade everything. It's all very old. Even if you upgrade now you'll find yourself wondering why your computer is so sluggish in 6 months. Both your CPU and GPU are slowing down stuff, probably around equally. The upgrade will do minimal help, your GPU will continue bottlenecking. TL;DR no! RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I would advise against it. The socket 775 has no upgrade path at all, and you will notice minimal difference. If you upgrade anything, I would upgrade everything. It's all very old. Even if you upgrade now you'll find yourself wondering why your computer is so sluggish in 6 months. Both your CPU and GPU are slowing down stuff, probably around equally. The upgrade will do minimal help, your GPU will continue bottlenecking. TL;DR no! I'd agree with this.Even at a total 100% upgrade (so mobo, cpu and gpu & possibly ram) you could probably spend as little as twice as much (so $200 area) for a greater spec increase and more future upgrade avenues. Throw $250 - $400 at it and you can get a pretty mean system. I mean I recently spent ~£400 on pc upgrades And I got a mobo with an AM3+ socket (so future proofed for a gd few years) 6 core cpu, 8gb ramThat kind upgrade on your system would be like 15-20x improvement compared to the cpu upgrade u wanna do tht will be a fractional improvementSure at exchange rate £400 = $600 roughly, but US pricing general runs on par with uk (eg £100 item in uk is usually $100 in us) Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 If your computer's socket and processor are so old, I'd suggest against doing an upgrade, and keeping the money, while putting some on the side, for a brand new build at a later time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 You'll be way better off picking up a cheap graphics card. Do you have a PCI-e 16x or an AGP slot?Here's a reference. If you do have a PCI-e 16x slot, you have far more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Diddy Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I completely agree that you should save your money for buying a new system. Its a dead end socket, DDR2 is being phased out, and considering that you're running a pretty low-end GPU its not likely that the boost from CPU will help. Its annoying and tempting, knowing you can upgrade, maybe you'll get a bit more incentive to build your own computer that can run significantly folds better than your current one. Trust us its not worth it. Also buying it doesn't have to be ridiculously expensive, especially if you build one yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emers8529 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 could any1 help me with a build? idk exactly what i need, and i dont really wanna spend more than 400$ usd the cheaper the better :)i dont need it good enough to run crysis on hd, but hopefully just good enough to get at least 120 fps in css I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 $400 is a bit tight if you need a copy of Windows, but can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheeky16 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The Shell Shocker looks like a wicked deal. I paid about that for my PSU alone. :P Also my case was around $300 as well. I found that once I built one it wasn't quite what I wanted. So take into consideration if there is anything like a case upgrade you would want to do in the near future. I spent lots on my case and PSU hoping to enjoy them for a few years before any upgrades are needed. I got the Corsair AX1200 PSU and Corsair 800D case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The Shell Shocker looks like a wicked deal. I paid about that for my PSU alone. :P Also my case was around $300 as well. I found that once I built one it wasn't quite what I wanted. So take into consideration if there is anything like a case upgrade you would want to do in the near future. I spent lots on my case and PSU hoping to enjoy them for a few years before any upgrades are needed. I got the Corsair AX1200 PSU and Corsair 800D case.Are you running 3way SLI with 590s or something? RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emers8529 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Here's what I'd probably get for $400: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21549767This doesn't include any software licenses, but it's probably a bit overkill for CS:S; you could probably cut back on the graphics card, processor, and HDD to squeeze out enough funds to cover a Windows 7 license. Also, there's a pretty nice looking combo up for the Shell Shocker today: http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspxI don't know that I'd trust the cooler or PSU, but the reviews look good.tyvm for that! it looks like an awesome build, i think ima buy it :) cant wait for mah next check! I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emers8529 Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Here's what I'd probably get for $400: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21549767This doesn't include any software licenses, but it's probably a bit overkill for CS:S; you could probably cut back on the graphics card, processor, and HDD to squeeze out enough funds to cover a Windows 7 license. Also, there's a pretty nice looking combo up for the Shell Shocker today: http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspxI don't know that I'd trust the cooler or PSU, but the reviews look good. would my current gfx card (nvidia geforce 9400gt) work?its a pci-e card. if so thats another 100 i can knock off the price I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 cs:s is not really a heavy game, so I think you can get away with it, but don't expect to get the full 120fps you want to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky16 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 The Shell Shocker looks like a wicked deal. I paid about that for my PSU alone. :P Also my case was around $300 as well. I found that once I built one it wasn't quite what I wanted. So take into consideration if there is anything like a case upgrade you would want to do in the near future. I spent lots on my case and PSU hoping to enjoy them for a few years before any upgrades are needed. I got the Corsair AX1200 PSU and Corsair 800D case.Are you running 3way SLI with 590s or something? Haha no, but who knows what the future will bring. I had a CX500 and turns out it wasn't big enough when I took it in to get looked at. Recommended 750 to run my system but said an 800 would be ideal. Me looking in the future to future proof it and have it last a few years I went with the 1200 watt PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Here's what I'd probably get for $400: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21549767This doesn't include any software licenses, but it's probably a bit overkill for CS:S; you could probably cut back on the graphics card, processor, and HDD to squeeze out enough funds to cover a Windows 7 license. Also, there's a pretty nice looking combo up for the Shell Shocker today: http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspxI don't know that I'd trust the cooler or PSU, but the reviews look good. If I were him I would be reusing parts from his existing computer he planned on upgrading. Case, power supply, hard drive, and dvd drive can all probably be reused. Reusing those parts, and the rest of your build, and adding in a copy of Win 7 and you are coming in a little cheaper. Hard drive you might want to upgrade rather than reuse, but I wouldn't get that one listed regardless. Get a smaller and faster one, for cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136794 (ok, it is about half the capacity at the same price, but it will be much better if you are putting your os and games on this one drive). Next I would probably replace the power supply, the one in the list is good enough. Case and dvd drive though there's no reason to not reuse those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 For dvd drive, it depends if the motherboard supports EIDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emers8529 Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 cs:s is not really a heavy game, so I think you can get away with it, but don't expect to get the full 120fps you want to get.eh, the human eye can only see up to 60 fps, right? im pretty sure thats what i heard somewhere lol.. n e ways as long as i have a nice stable fps over 70 ill be happy :) I like getting hard when I PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 cs:s is not really a heavy game, so I think you can get away with it, but don't expect to get the full 120fps you want to get.eh, the human eye can only see up to 60 fps, right? im pretty sure thats what i heard somewhere lol.. n e ways as long as i have a nice stable fps over 70 ill be happy :) Yeah 60 fps is about the limit for the human eye anything over that is kinda pointless FPS Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askthedude Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 My 2 cents:+ Your 9400gt CPU is a Phenom II X2, cheaper than the quad cores and can be unlocked to a quad core if you have the right motherboard, like the one I included. More details here and a simple google search will provide more information. Why can't the Big Bang be done by the hand of God?It could have, but it is next to impossible because it also could have been caused by the flying spaghetti monster, or one of the other infinite number of deity possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernlov Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 For FPS games, 2*refresh is generally considered ideal in terms of frame rate. It IS just an ideal though; I know people who play well with less. Steam | Soup | Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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