Anon523 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 My friend told me to take a 5:1 brew/restore ratio for solo bandos. That means I wont be using a super restore every brew to get my stats back up to 125. I know overload resets it to 125 every 15 seconds but I'll be 99 for 14 seconds right? Isn't that kind of a big deal? Sorry for the noob question, I'm new to overloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 My friend told me to take a 5:1 brew/restore ratio for solo bandos. That means I wont be using a super restore every brew to get my stats back up to 125. I know overload resets it to 125 every 15 seconds but I'll be 99 for 14 seconds right? Isn't that kind of a big deal? Sorry for the noob question, I'm new to overloads.Pretty much what your friends saying is you'll still be using restores to recover from your brews like normally, but don't be afraid to over brew because the ticks of the overload restore 15 levels. So really the only reason you'll be using restores is to restore prayer and the occasional time when you're busy fighting and you over-brew to heal and don't want to wait for the overload to tick off. By the way overloads tick ever 15 seconds. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonMedo Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 learn when that 15 seconds happen and brew just before that,so your stats will go back up in a second Mamiću odlazi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon523 Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Keep tracking of the 15 second thing sounds like a drainer :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Keep tracking of the 15 second thing sounds like a drainer :\It is... Don't bother with it. For now just understand that overloads restore 15 levels and help act as a buffer to the side effects of brewing. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 It's important to keep track of when your overload wears off so you can recieve the 500 lp healing, the 15 second boost is another matter. But you should know that the boost occurs independant of your brewing, so you'll be at 99 for 7.5 seconds on average. Super restores won't restore your stats past 99, so they only help if you brew more than once. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm sorry but your friend is an idiot. Solo with maul + sharks. Bring 2 brews in case Graardor decides he's sick of punching you. Bringing only brews as food drastically reduces your profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm sorry but your friend is an idiot. Solo with maul + sharks. Bring 2 brews in case Graardor decides he's sick of punching you. Bringing only brews as food drastically reduces your profits.But drastically increases your stay. Goals for 2012:Quest CapeMAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm sorry but your friend is an idiot. Solo with maul + sharks. Bring 2 brews in case Graardor decides he's sick of punching you. Bringing only brews as food drastically reduces your profits.You call his friend an idiot and then you say " Solo with maul + sharks. Bring 2 brews ". Alright then. Anyway TC, if you're bothered enough, get yourself an onscreen timer (countdown timer). Set one to 5 Minutes. Restart it every time you overload. Keep track of it. Make sure you don't brew the last few seconds of the 5 minutes. This gives you that 500lp boost. Comes in handy, saves 2 brew sips.Set another one to 15 seconds repeat. Keep an eye on it. Brew as near to the end of the 15 seconds as you can. This will improve your performance. It might take a while to get used to it, but once you do it will improve your trips by a lot. I used to do 80 - 88kc solos, with the timers i can easily squeeze in another 3 or 4 (sometimes even 5 or 6) kills taking you to 100kc + solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Who gives a damn about trip length when you earn much higher profit/hour with shorter, spec rest-based trips that don't need any healing other than ss and sharks? You have no right whatsoever to advise Bandos strategies if you don't realise just how outdated camping is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Who gives a damn about trip length when you earn much higher profit/hour with shorter, spec rest-based trips that don't need any healing other than ss and sharks? You have no right whatsoever to advise Bandos strategies if you don't realise just how outdated camping is.I see no difference in the two strategies except that the one allows you to stay 120 kc, the other allows you to stay maybe 30 kc. So the former would be the better option because it cuts out banking time. So you'r making no sense.Also, why so mad? Relax bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Who gives a damn about trip length when you earn much higher profit/hour with shorter, spec rest-based trips that don't need any healing other than ss and sharks? You have no right whatsoever to advise Bandos strategies if you don't realise just how outdated camping is.I see no difference in the two strategies except that the one allows you to stay 120 kc, the other allows you to stay maybe 30 kc. So the former would be the better option because it cuts out banking time. So you'r making no sense.Also, why so mad? Relax bro.Banking, traveling to gwd and getting killcount takes at least 4 minutes even if done as efficiently as possible. It's at this point i couldn't find graardors respawn time rate anywhere. Tip.it. Go get that. So using noxxx's numbers, that's 12 minutes wasted for those faster kills, will an extra spec per kill really save you 12 minutes on 30 graardor's? (24 seconds a kill.) I can't see it, personally. UNLESS you take account all the crashers and how difficult it is to find an empty world. With the speed kill method, you ARE the crasher, or the best possible anti-crash, so this will most definatley save you a LOT of time overall from hopping worlds or losing kills to a crasher. Those are his numbers though. I have no idea if you can really solo 30 graardors with one method and an average of 7.5 with another, i'd definatley say quick trips with many spec restores and sharks would be better, at least at peak times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerendil Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Ignoring the epeen show about bandos soloing, personally, i think 5:1 is a bit of a steep ratio. I would personally advise bringing about 3:1 brew-rest ratio, which is the general standard for brews-rest without overloads. having not enough restore can be a real pill, especially if graador has decided hitting you with his fists is boring and goes 3-4 range atts in a row. having 79/99 stats really does have an effect, that is 2-5 attacks where you accuracy will be derp, and your max hit will be lowered signifigantly. comparing 79/99 stats and 125/99 is like a 40% max hit loss... Bring rests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Using 12 spec rests, you stay for just under the entire 2 ovls. You will have to do one ovl's worth of kills without spec rests. This results in approximately 28kph on max spawn worlds, taking into account banking and KC time. The thing is, I make a point of crashing CLS/divine soloists because they're normally rocking the yak full of brews crap. In those situations, I actually get a good 8-9/10 kills, making my crashing extremely worthwhile as I have a *huge* advantage rather than the usual marginal ones. We all know that Bandos GWD is more about competing with other players than killing the boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_trollz_u Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I don't know when the last time you went to bandos was, but i'd say that at least half of the non-ls worlds are empty, and it's not that hard to even find an empty ls world anymore. Bandos is nowhere near as crowded as people make it out to be (at least from the last 5 trips or so i did with a friend). Also, i'm pretty sure 15-16 spec recovers+brews/claws and a cls+defender switch is better than sharks and a maul for crashing. Crashing also isn't that efficient considering you are going to hop when they hop, unless you plan to solo it in which camping gear would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I don't know when the last time you went to bandos was, but i'd say that at least half of the non-ls worlds are empty, and it's not that hard to even find an empty ls world anymore. Bandos is nowhere near as crowded as people make it out to be (at least from the last 5 trips or so i did with a friend). Incorrect. Try playing at normal hours. Also, i'm pretty sure 15-16 spec recovers+brews/claws and a cls+defender switch is better than sharks and a maul for crashing. Incorrect. Maul deals significantly more dps than a CLS. Crashing also isn't that efficient considering you are going to hop when they hop, unless you plan to solo it in which camping gear would be better. Who says that crashing = hopping with them? It's just a way to find a world without it taking up half your allocated bossing time. That aside, camping gear is not better at all. The spec rest setup increases the speed of kills so much that the extra banking/kc time add up to make the KPH pretty much equal to camping KPH with zero risk of being crashed and the ability to plant your foot down on any world you want to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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