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21-Oct-2011 - Bot-Busting and Bonuses For All


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Meh, getting sick of waiting for it now. 12:20am, bed is sounding good. =/

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Will if their ban numbers are as accurate as last time when they said 1.5mil botters were banned, it's not worth revealing them.

They 'only' banned around 500K and dunno why theymultiplied that by 3. Ah well, guess jagex wanted a 'multiply by 3'-activity too :P

 

 

They banned spam bots and mule accounts associated with gold farmers as well which would not show on the high-scores. There is your other 2/3rds.

 

 

 

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Still on rank around 14.400, so I guess the top players are kinda legit... (or don't bot like a headless chicken, choose whatever u think is appropriate)

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Still on rank around 14.400, so I guess the top players are kinda legit... (or don't bot like a headless chicken, choose whatever u think is appropriate)

 

As a representative of the headless chicken union, I find your labeling of my clients to be speciesist.

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So... I guess it's true that 100% of rs players are (were) bots

Nope they said that they will rule out all bots, which they did, but they didn't say anything about the normal players ;) /jk

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98% of bots killed. 2% survive. That 2% that works will be used by botters. Soon becomes 100% of bots. Bot problem continues.

The 2% that survive will be auto clickers and pascal based bots. However they're hugely unreliable and high ban rates, reflection and injection actually deal with the java code.

Well, not for things like alching.

 

Can you explain how pascal based bots work? Why pascal? Why not C?

 

3. Lots and lots of people realizing their 9 year old cousin botted on their main account over the summer while they were away helping the orphans in Africa. Expect lots of threads pointing out this injustice.

 

Ok -- I LOL'd IRL ... :lol:

 

But, here's a question for you (or anyone else who wants to answer it) -- at what level will you accept Clusterflutterer to be a "success"? Only if it manages to eliminate 98% of all bots AND these accounts and all correlated accounts are permanently banned?

 

Are you willing to accept less and just appreciate the effort? :unsure:

Right now, Jagex says that the changes will stop 98% of the current bots. Now, assuming they're honest after the fact, that should mean around 100,000 bots active at any one time. Again, I assume that's the number of bots messed up after each update only this time they stay messed up. If it's not near 100k, then I'd consider it a failure.

 

Now, how they treat those that they've identified is another tale. I don't mind rollbacks cause it does the same as banning and starting a new character for most. That's assuming they're just botting for levels and not gold farming for RWT.

If 98% of bots are stopped and you expect 100k bots active at any one time, then you're saying that 50 x 100k = 5m bots are active at any one time. That makes no sense.

 

Anyway, I used to report + - 10 botters a day (minimum) and I chat alot so I don't show bot behaviour in any way.

 

It's not exactly a mark of a bot if you don't talk. This has been discussed to death.

It's a mark of not being a bot if you talk. Not talking is not the mark of a bot.

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Anyway, I used to report + - 10 botters a day (minimum) and I chat alot so I don't show bot behaviour in any way.

 

It's not exactly a mark of a bot if you don't talk. This has been discussed to death.

It's a mark of not being a bot if you talk. Not talking is not the mark of a bot.

 

It's not, though. Like I said, it's been discussed to death. Many of the more popular scripts have 'human-like' actions programmed into it, like bankstanding for a small amount of time, periodically examining people and objects, turning the camera, and talking.

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Found this on a bot website, looks like Jagex actually did something quite substantial. I doubt this will keep them away forever, but it'll take a LOT of resources to get around (if I understand what they're saying)

EDIT: Imeant to put this in the other topic. I'll leave this here anyway.

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they've butchered the client for real all instance variables are gone t's all in a massive object array

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

so youre basically telling me that jagex knew what they were doing this time? and bot owners dont know what theyre in for yet? jacmob etc

 

Yohanu says

yep

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

are trying to keep their community calm

 

Yohanu says

i expected them to go this far

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

by saying "oh ill have it in a few hours"

 

Yohanu says

eventually

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

so

 

Yohanu says

basically

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

how to get around?

 

Yohanu says

every object in game is an index in the array rite like every part of game engine the array is just an Object[][] meaning you can't tell what type is in what index and my guess is that everytime you connect all indices are scrambled resulting in something even harder than making a packet bot

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

thats what WoW did it pretty much destroyed private servers

 

Yohanu says

ll so yeah this is luls pretty sure they do reflection checks now too as a backup in addition to more gradual updates looks bright finally i can actually talk to people in game instead of talking to walls (bots)

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

I quoted this convo

 

Yohanu says

mk

 

Frell Bzigalsmichtz says

for the [bleep] mscp 12 year olds who think theyre badass because they can load up a bot and hit start

 

Yohanu says

ol

 

 

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