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Jagex wanted to clear out the highscores of dormant players and bots. Jagex claims that it clears thousands of bots per minute.

You have a point, though, that most of the numbers were probably made up of throwaways.

 

Yea, if we could just convince everyone who ever botted to log in to their botted accounts while using a broken bot that they are fully aware will get that account insta-banned, then I believe Jagex could live up to their claimed ability and clear them all at the pace of thousands per minute using their new automated software tools. Can't say I see that happening, sadly.

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It's the weasel words being used by Jagex in justifying this move that bothers me. Not just with Hi-Scores but also Dice removal. It's the carefully chosen words of a liar.

 

I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the US, if someone asks a corporate officer a question, and the answer is proprietary corporate information, and by answering honestly you would damage the future profit earning potential of the company, you open yourself up to civil liability and possibly even criminal prosecution by answering honestly. If that bothers you, take it up with your elected representatives, not Jagex. Now, we don't know if that applies here or not, because most of what we have on this situation is Jagex's dishonest FAQ, but it might, right?

Yes, but then they should have said that they couldn't specify why they were making this update, rather than giving a bogus reason - lying in response to such a question might be worse than answering it truthfully.

 

Granted, doing so would have still resulted in a lot of criticism and flaming, but at least it wouldn't involve them having zero reading comprehension and a lack of ability to see that not everyone in F2P is a bot. I'd still be pretty angry over the update, but I wouldn't think they might just be hiring monkeys to type up their posts.


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Removing f2per's and inactive players from the highscores is genuinly a great idea for increasing the competitiveness of the highscores, providing the existing format of the highscores is also kept as a hall of fame.


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It's just a shame that after all these years, they simply can't be honest with their players. How about some transparency over there you dipshits?


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It's just a shame that after all these years, they simply can't be honest with their players. How about some transparency over there you dipshits?

 

Transparency is the best smokescreen of all. They can say they're being fully transparent, and we'll never really know.


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It's just a shame that after all these years, they simply can't be honest with their players. How about some transparency over there you dipshits?

 

Transparency is the best smokescreen of all. They can say they're being fully transparent, and we'll never really know.

 

Fair enough, but I would love some actual transparency, not just the word. :thumbup:


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I think the point has been lost on many of you all.

 

F2P has always been a feeder for P2P. I started there. I fought cows and chickens, I mined for and smithed bronze and iron, I did some quests, I got pked, I got killed by those dark wizards many times.....etc. After a time I joined members. Ive never looked back. It was a natural process that if I enjoyed the game Id go forward. Most importantly, during my F2P days, I never once gave a toss about any high scores. I was too busy learning the game. This is the type of player that the game wants and indeed needs. The argument that the lack of high scores will affect new player growth is completely erroneous. New players dont care. When they finally do they should be in P2P anyway.

 

The only ones who really care about the scores are those I call career F2Pers. They are those who have no intention of doing members on their account. Fine, youve made that choice. It is your own choice to stay there. Nobody forced you to. Nobody said you couldnt go elsewhere. Nobody said you cant join P2P. What you dont get is that youve been treated very well by a company who has no obligation to you at all. You turn on them at every opportunity because youre not getting things your own way. You want P2P things as if its your right because youve been playing so long. You think that Jagex owes you the world. You just dont get it do you? Its the other way around. You owe them your gratitude for allowing you the hours of entertainment for nothing in return.

 

Pretty much the same way as I see it. :thumbup:

 

I am also with Sydan and Jrhairychest :thumbup:

 

There are some very valid and significant points made by Jrhairychest, put much better than I could. Yet many are continuing to rant against Jagex without stopping for 5 minutes and consider the relevancy of the points made by someone who is obviously a current player and who has been through F2P.


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Only time will tell if this move is right one or not, since most people that do cared about highscore are current player base. I suppose Jagex expect most people to move on, and new player that come in didn't know that highscore exist for everyone in the first place.

 

I was so looking forward to being bumped up on the list due to removal of bots (not sure about inactive ones, since I consider some of them legends), but I guess I won't know because I am pure F2P........


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Most importantly, during my F2P days, I never once gave a toss about any high scores. I was too busy learning the game. This is the type of player that the game wants and indeed needs. The argument that the lack of high scores will affect new player growth is completely erroneous. New players don’t care. When they finally do they should be in P2P anyway.

 

So basically what your saying is since you didn't give damn about highscores when you were F2P that automatically makes it fact for everyone else? Not everyone wants to play the game the way you do and generalizing an opinion on why we shouldn't be complaining just off of that doesn't bring up a very convincing argument.

 

I am also with Sydan and Jrhairychest :thumbup:

 

There are some very valid and significant points made by Jrhairychest, put much better than I could. Yet many are continuing to rant against Jagex without stopping for 5 minutes and consider the relevancy of the points made by someone who is obviously a current player and who has been through F2P.

 

What you are failing to realize is that a great majority of the posters in this thread (myself included) are in the exact category you are telling us to listen to. Most of us are current players who have been through F2P and we feel it's wrong because given our past experience, we have found high scores to have been a beneficial part of F2P that contributes to the overall game's community and design.

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I think the point has been lost on many of you all.

 

F2P has always been a feeder for P2P. I started there. I fought cows and chickens, I mined for and smithed bronze and iron, I did some quests, I got pked, I got killed by those dark wizards many times.....etc. After a time I joined members. I've never looked back. It was a natural process that if I enjoyed the game I'd go forward. Most importantly, during my F2P days, I never once gave a toss about any high scores. I was too busy learning the game. This is the type of player that the game wants and indeed needs. The argument that the lack of high scores will affect new player growth is completely erroneous. New players don't care. When they finally do they should be in P2P anyway.

 

The only ones who really care about the scores are those I call 'career F2Pers'. They are those who have no intention of doing members on their account. Fine, you've made that choice. It is your own choice to stay there. Nobody forced you to. Nobody said you couldn't go elsewhere. Nobody said you can't join P2P. What you don't get is that you've been treated very well by a company who has no obligation to you at all. You turn on them at every opportunity because you're not getting things your own way. You want P2P things as if it's your right because you've been playing so long. You think that Jagex owes you the world. You just don't get it do you? It's the other way around. You owe them your gratitude for allowing you the hours of entertainment for nothing in return.

 

Pretty much the same way as I see it. :thumbup:

 

I am also with Sydan and Jrhairychest :thumbup:

 

There are some very valid and significant points made by Jrhairychest, put much better than I could. Yet many are continuing to rant against Jagex without stopping for 5 minutes and consider the relevancy of the points made by someone who is obviously a current player and who has been through F2P.

 

Explain this, then.

 

How are fanbase-driven programs going to function accurately? Tip.it has its own dynamic signature, which will be useless to a lot of players in a few days. Runehead's main function was clans, and many clans are F2P to encompass as many people as they can. Runetracker, of which Tip.it is partnered with, won't be able to keep up with a very large amount of its userbase.

 

To the point of "career F2P": So what? Who forces anyone to pay for a free game? It shouldn't matter if a person doesn't elect to pay for members here...especially since not that long ago, Jagex was preaching about how awesome its F2P game was. It really isn't awesome anymore due to a lack of interesting features, and even worse - features are being taken away.

 

I respect your opinion(s) but I disagree. Sorry.


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I personally love how I specifically asked a couple of JMods about their new quest guides at Runefest, and conveyed concern about this from a fansite point of view. I believe the answer was a pretty adamant "We don't wish to compete with you with guides/calcs/etc". Well, in my book the wiki is out to kill a lot of our guides and the removal of f2p kills a lot of the ease of use for our calcs. Thanks a lot, I remember who you were and I will bring it up should I ever meet you again.


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I think the point has been lost on many of you all.

 

F2P has always been a feeder for P2P. I started there. I fought cows and chickens, I mined for and smithed bronze and iron, I did some quests, I got pked, I got killed by those dark wizards many times.....etc. After a time I joined members. Ive never looked back. It was a natural process that if I enjoyed the game Id go forward. Most importantly, during my F2P days, I never once gave a toss about any high scores. I was too busy learning the game. This is the type of player that the game wants and indeed needs. The argument that the lack of high scores will affect new player growth is completely erroneous. New players dont care. When they finally do they should be in P2P anyway.

 

The only ones who really care about the scores are those I call career F2Pers. They are those who have no intention of doing members on their account. Fine, youve made that choice. It is your own choice to stay there. Nobody forced you to. Nobody said you couldnt go elsewhere. Nobody said you cant join P2P. What you dont get is that youve been treated very well by a company who has no obligation to you at all. You turn on them at every opportunity because youre not getting things your own way. You want P2P things as if its your right because youve been playing so long. You think that Jagex owes you the world. You just dont get it do you? Its the other way around. You owe them your gratitude for allowing you the hours of entertainment for nothing in return.

 

Pretty much the same way as I see it. :thumbup:

 

I am also with Sydan and Jrhairychest :thumbup:

 

There are some very valid and significant points made by Jrhairychest, put much better than I could. Yet many are continuing to rant against Jagex without stopping for 5 minutes and consider the relevancy of the points made by someone who is obviously a current player and who has been through F2P.

 

You three have a way of thinking that doesn't take into consideration every possibility; You group all f2p in two categories, when that simply isn't true.

You're generalizing f2p into two ways of playing, when there are so many more.

 

And let me remind you that f2p aren't the only ones that use the highscores to look up f2p characters. I do it all the time when I'm p2p, and when I take a break from p2p, and I'm sure some other people do as well.


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I don't care about the other players opinion (those that i don't know)

 

I will play keep playing this game when i want because whatever jagex makes member or not, I will play as a member.

I don't have to squeeze my 6 dollars out of this game or something.


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Explain this, then.

 

How are fanbase-driven programs going to function accurately? Tip.it has its own dynamic signature, which will be useless to a lot of players in a few days. Runehead's main function was clans, and many clans are F2P to encompass as many people as they can. Runetracker, of which Tip.it is partnered with, won't be able to keep up with a very large amount of its userbase.

 

To the point of "career F2P": So what? Who forces anyone to pay for a free game? It shouldn't matter if a person doesn't elect to pay for members here...especially since not that long ago, Jagex was preaching about how awesome its F2P game was. It really isn't awesome anymore due to a lack of interesting features, and even worse - features are being taken away.

 

I respect your opinion(s) but I disagree. Sorry.

So far, the ONLY thing they say they're removing is the high scores. Unless I misread, account's stats will still be readable via query. Now, if that's the case, would you be ok with the removal of F2P being ranked in high scores? People on F2P would still be able to show or prove their level. Duel arena stat scouting will still be possible. TheOldNite and LarryR's score could still be linked to in sigs and various replies to make a point about how certain persons aren't as boss as they think they are.

 

Granted, Jagex could remove the query ability in which case the above is moot.


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So basically what your saying is since you didn't give damn about highscores when you were F2P that automatically makes it fact for everyone else? Not everyone wants to play the game the way you do and generalizing an opinion on why we shouldn't be complaining just off of that doesn't bring up a very convincing argument.

 

When does a new player get on the high scores? It normally takes a good amount of game time to get a skill there. Nobody comes to RS and goes straight to the high scores. The first few months are exploration, questing and basic skilling. Think back to when you started. That’s what you did. That’s what we all did. The problem is you’re thinking from the point of view as an experienced player and not as the noob you once were. For instance you won’t find someone who is brand new to RS coming on to forums like this and [bleep]ing about removal of high scores. Erewhon2 put it nicely - ‘rant against Jagex without stopping for 5 minutes’.

 

 

What you are failing to realize is that a great majority of the posters in this thread (myself included) are in the exact category you are telling us to listen to. Most of us are current players who have been through F2P and we feel it's wrong because given our past experience, we have found high scores to have been a beneficial part of F2P that contributes to the overall game's community and design.

 

Your argument on here, again, is based on experience. My original points were about bringing new players in. Any new players will accept they cannot get on the high scores the same as they cannot get through the gates to Taverly or use dragon weapons when they click on their attack icon.

 

If I personally at some point go F2P, I accept that high scores are a feature only for members the same as all the other restrictions. Why am I not bothered? Because I graciously accept that I’m getting the game for free and do not have unrealistic expectations. Erewhon2 and Sydan seem to be thinking on similar lines. I would probably guess that these are the type of players who appreciate things a little more, particularly when given for ‘free’.

 

Explain this, then.

 

How are fanbase-driven programs going to function accurately? Tip.it has its own dynamic signature, which will be useless to a lot of players in a few days. Runehead's main function was clans, and many clans are F2P to encompass as many people as they can. Runetracker, of which Tip.it is partnered with, won't be able to keep up with a very large amount of its userbase.

Simple – Get membership.

 

To the point of "career F2P": So what? Who forces anyone to pay for a free game? It shouldn't matter if a person doesn't elect to pay for members here...especially since not that long ago, Jagex was preaching about how awesome its F2P game was. It really isn't awesome anymore due to a lack of interesting features, and even worse - features are being taken away.

See my point above to Gandorf61 for your first part. I’m happy for anyone to be a career F2Per but enough with the endless complaints about what F2P can’t have. To be honest if career F2Pers quit because of this I won’t lose any sleep over it. Sounds harsh but I’ve no time for those that look a gift horse in the mouth.

 

F2P is still an awesome game, much better than when I first played it. That’s your own point of view about how ‘interesting’ it is but that isn't the same overall because we wouldn't have career F2Pers in the first place if what you're saying is true. If I could wipe my own memory, start again and play F2P I’d still find it awesome.

 

You three have a way of thinking that doesn't take into consideration every possibility; You group all f2p in two categories, when that simply isn't true.

You're generalizing f2p into two ways of playing, when there are so many more.

Such as? Please elaborate.

 

And let me remind you that f2p aren't the only ones that use the highscores to look up f2p characters. I do it all the time when I'm p2p, and when I take a break from p2p, and I'm sure some other people do as well.

That’s one thing you won’t have to look up anymore then isn’t it? It won’t matter.

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I am also with Sydan and Jrhairychest :thumbup:

 

There are some very valid and significant points made by Jrhairychest, put much better than I could. Yet many are continuing to rant against Jagex without stopping for 5 minutes and consider the relevancy of the points made by someone who is obviously a current player and who has been through F2P.

 

What you are failing to realize is that a great majority of the posters in this thread (myself included) are in the exact category you are telling us to listen to. Most of us are current players who have been through F2P and we feel it's wrong because given our past experience, we have found high scores to have been a beneficial part of F2P that contributes to the overall game's community and design.

 

I really am trying to understand where some people are coming from, but I have to say I just don't get it. Maybe I think differently, I've played F2P games before as well as RS, none of which have had the content of RS and I have been grateful for what I had. Being on the highscores are for those who have stayed in F2P to gain enough xp to get on that board, I never did. I became a member before that point, yes that was my choice, but I wanted more of the game. I wasn't content with 'half a game' with skills missing. If people are happy with that and want to play free then why are they complaining at restrictions on a score board?

 

If clans are mixed p2p and f2p, thats a clan choice, I'm sure Jagex would rather everyone became a member and will strive towards that, it their right as a business. I hope all this doesn't make them regret having introduced a free game with no time limits and great content. I also am not clear as to how highscores contribute to the overall design of the game and community. It is part of the game structure (soon to be for members, as are many things) and is used for some peoples interest and particular competitive game style, other than that I don't see the relevance to the gaming community. After all its not being removed anyway, just restrictions with regard to accessing it.


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Actually, when I first started playing Runescape, I was checking the hiscores quite often. I looked up my friend, trying to beat him, and that was provided with me goals. When I was bored, I'd go around exploring, questing or whatever.

 

It's definitely not clear to say how much thisis going to hurt the amount of new players coming into the game, but just basing it off your personal experience is kind of ignorant and short-sighted.

 

 

I think what we all can agree on is this:

 

1.This *will* make the game more unattractive for new players by a certain amount

2.A certain amount of old players will be fed up enough to stop their subscription

3.Another certain amount might at least be fed up enough to stop telling other people about Runescape or might talk negatively

 

4.A certain amount of players will feel the pressure to remain on the highscores, be it after they have achieved huge goals and quit, or if they're f2p.

 

 

The only question is business wise, does the first section outweigh the second one? I think it will in the long run, but that's down to opinion, seeing that we don't have any accessible facts.

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QFC: [qfc]16-17-732-63382107[/qfc]

"Both F2P and members are adverse to this update. How did you come to the conclusion that we may like it?!"

"Removing bots from the hi-scores is very popular."

 

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Seriously, they should stop throwing "bots" as an excuse for everything.

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QFC: [qfc]16-17-732-63382107[/qfc]

"Both F2P and members are adverse to this update. How did you come to the conclusion that we may like it?!"

"Removing bots from the hi-scores is very popular."

 

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Seriously, they should stop throwing "bots" as an excuse for everything.

Clearly they think the entire F2P playerbase was made up of bots, and that any F2p'ers left are obviously very advanced bots that weren't affected by the "nuke", and are going to extreme steps to remove them.


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Actually, when I first started playing Runescape, I was checking the hiscores quite often. I looked up my friend, trying to beat him, and that was provided with me goals. When I was bored, I'd go around exploring, questing or whatever.

 

It's definitely not clear to say how much thisis going to hurt the amount of new players coming into the game, but just basing it off your personal experience is kind of ignorant and short-sighted.

 

 

I think what we all can agree on is this:

 

1.This *will* make the game more unattractive for new players by a certain amount

2.A certain amount of old players will be fed up enough to stop their subscription

3.Another certain amount might at least be fed up enough to stop telling other people about Runescape or might talk negatively

 

4.A certain amount of players will feel the pressure to remain on the highscores, be it after they have achieved huge goals and quit, or if they're f2p.

 

 

The only question is business wise, does the first section outweigh the second one? I think it will in the long run, but that's down to opinion, seeing that we don't have any accessible facts.

 

I actually agree partly jrhairychest and TOTALLY with Jonanananas. Even thouse I don't pay, I actually talk to others in gaming community how RS appeals to me. Simply because somehwere down your RS career, you will enter a competitive stage with someone when you hit certain combat level. I actually remember compete with this other player I met to the point we screen shot each others highscore every day to see how much xp we gained.

 

When I started, I didn't even know about highscore existed, at least not for first few weeks, all I was doing was training and minding my own business. As I get to know the game a bit more, I actually start to use it to check out elite players like Zezima or Mendark 9 and using the highscore partly to determine if someone is a bot part due to abnormal xp categories (before I report them by accident) and to validate someone's stat if they could help with skill (again with skill lending, it's not really an issue anymore). Granted, none of that really applies now and it was back then. The solution can be solved by a simple tweak to the highscore by hiding the extremely long term inactive account, and reactivate them once the owner decide to come out of retirement.

 

Basically, many of us old RS geezers, old time players, F2pers want it to stay around because the positive experience we had in past, present and future. But it will be totally up to Jagex to see what they want to do with it.

 

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I remember as a newb on f2p checking hs to get some of my levels 'ranked' and training for that. (Ofcourse this was a long time ago so maybe it was easier compared to today (Due to bots too.)) Nothing special.. Not really competition tbh.. I just wanted to see my name appear with a few stats compared to being completely blank.

 

I joined members pretty quickly but I do remember that still as f2per. It encouraged me to train some skills which I suppose led me to becoming a member to gain extra content maybe.

 

Without a HS as a starting point to reach for, it might been less interesting for me. It was just one of the many things I wanted to do.

 

I can only speculate further but I would imagine my burning ambitions for certain goals, even smithing to the cap, began even then. I used to mine and smith alot in f2p and was one first, if not thee first, stats I got up onto HS while in f2p. It must of had an influence on my current day playstyle/character tbf. Definitely encouraged me to become members for better training methods to improve my character.


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If clans are mixed p2p and f2p, thats a clan choice, I'm sure Jagex would rather everyone became a member and will strive towards that, it their right as a business. I hope all this doesn't make them regret having introduced a free game with no time limits and great content. I also am not clear as to how highscores contribute to the overall design of the game and community. It is part of the game structure (soon to be for members, as are many things) and is used for some peoples interest and particular competitive game style, other than that I don't see the relevance to the gaming community. After all its not being removed anyway, just restrictions with regard to accessing it.

 

Regarding your second bit (the part I quoted), while it is certainly the right of Jagex to try to push people towards members, including clans, that's not what they said this update is for. They said it's to clear bots out of the high scores. If they want this to be an additional incentive to buy members, they should say so, not give us crap reasons. I still wouldn't be okay with the idea, but I would be much less angry with them for insulting my intelligence by saying it's all about bots when it clearly isn't. (Or, they just fail at finding ways to deal with bots in the high scores. Either one. I'm honestly not sure which is the actual case.)

 

In regards to what being done with the high scores (regardless of the reasoning behind it), as a member I'm not happy with it because I would like to compare myself to all the players in the game, not just the ones who have paid $X in the past month. Also, this isn't adding a new feature that is members-only from the start - it's actively taking away something that F2P has had for years, I believe ever since the high scores came out in the first place. If they want to add new members-only features I'm okay with that, but taking something away from F2P that they've had for the majority of the game's life? That doesn't sit well with me. And it does still negatively impact my own gameplay as a member as well.

 

This is why I personally am not happy about this update. (Also the wiki, which is part of the same update - that feels like a knife in the back for RS fansites, especially RSWiki, but that's not getting much discussion.)


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Honestly, after much thought, I agree with Jagex. My initial reservations were regarding the historical value of the High Scores. I still like seeing people like Larryr be #5 in RC after more than 6 years of being dormant. Since the people who had achieved 200m in a skill will preserve their ranks if they are to become a member again (as mentioned in the FAQ), the only real gripe is gone. While I don't want to downplay the achievements of active F2P players, I don't really consider them my peers since they choose not to participate in nearly 80% of RS content. They choose not to participate, for whatever reason, so it is not their choice when it comes to being on the High Scores. As members, we invest in BOTH time and money to have a voice in the direction of the game. Jagex made a decision and we must learn to live with it and adjust or just stop playing. The Wilderness and Botting were two issues where MEMBERS played a large role in resolving. How many updates that we thought would bring around the end of RS still affect us on a day to day level....

 

Just my two cents.

I have a member account, and a f2p account. If I can't show off my F2P stats, I will quit runescape and it'll save me $6/month. There are enough substitutes out there now that I won't miss this.

 

If it's going to be that easy for you just go ahead and stop playing.

As a paying member I understand that the content that comes with being a member is provided by the fee I pay to play it. Without that payment there is no Runescape. Should I ever decide that I don't want to pay/be apart of Runescape anymore then I also understand the consequences to that decision. Yes I started out as a free player and I understand the concerns of F2P players but I became a member for a reason and certainly never expect anything for free.


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Clearly they think the entire F2P playerbase was made up of bots, and that any F2p'ers left are obviously very advanced bots that weren't affected by the "nuke", and are going to extreme steps to remove them.

*beep*...IDENTITY COMPROMISED. BEGIN TERMINATION PROTOCOLS...*beep*...


 

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THE place for all free players to connect, hang out and talk about how awesome it is to be F2P.

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Explain this, then.

 

How are fanbase-driven programs going to function accurately? Tip.it has its own dynamic signature, which will be useless to a lot of players in a few days. Runehead's main function was clans, and many clans are F2P to encompass as many people as they can. Runetracker, of which Tip.it is partnered with, won't be able to keep up with a very large amount of its userbase.

 

To the point of "career F2P": So what? Who forces anyone to pay for a free game? It shouldn't matter if a person doesn't elect to pay for members here...especially since not that long ago, Jagex was preaching about how awesome its F2P game was. It really isn't awesome anymore due to a lack of interesting features, and even worse - features are being taken away.

 

I respect your opinion(s) but I disagree. Sorry.

So far, the ONLY thing they say they're removing is the high scores. Unless I misread, account's stats will still be readable via query. Now, if that's the case, would you be ok with the removal of F2P being ranked in high scores? People on F2P would still be able to show or prove their level. Duel arena stat scouting will still be possible. TheOldNite and LarryR's score could still be linked to in sigs and various replies to make a point about how certain persons aren't as boss as they think they are.

 

Granted, Jagex could remove the query ability in which case the above is moot.

 

There's evidence to suggest that look-up queries are disabled too.

 

http://forum.tip.it/...ost__p__5095570


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