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These are not all f2p worlds, you missed the other languages...

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These are not all f2p worlds, you missed the other languages...


Unless the French worlds have 4000 people logged in at once, I don't see how it matters. The fact that they're running at about a quarter of their capacity after shutting servers down is troubling.

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As I 've said many times now, all jagex is trying to do these days is extracting as much revenue from the dying game as possible.
They don't giv a damn about new players - only to get more money from the hardcore/loyal players.

With the bot removal they have a prime opportunity to revitalize f2p, but they decide to get as much membership out of itas possible. There is no hope for f2p or the rest of the game in general...


Updates prepared and planned that are mentioned to be released in 2012 during Runefest says otherwise. I don't think they're milking the game before leaving it to die, rather than taking a different approach to how they're treating this game.

It could be possible that Jagex is slowly killing off the F2P playerbase by gambling their chances with the game, making them either subscribe or quit. Either ways, I won't be surprised if they remove F2P comepletely by the end of 2013.
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Honestly, jagex's current tactics can only be digging its own grave. Free to play mmo's are all the rage out there, plus the single player games that offer unlimited multiplayer after you buy it. The other subscription only games out there offer much more than what rs does and all offer lengthy free to play time without being haggled to buy membership at every second. F2P->P2P is what runescape is, and how its business runs. Stopping that will surely hurt the game in the long run.
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These are not all f2p worlds, you missed the other languages...

Unless the French worlds have 4000 people logged in at once, I don't see how it matters. The fact that they're running at about a quarter of their capacity after shutting servers down is troubling.

Of course it matters. If he wants to make a statistic he should do it properly. And there are 3 other languages, not only french btw...

And since the bot overrun it should be clear there aren't many legit f2p players left. Who would continue playing a game if he already gets spammed in the first 5 minutes? Yeah, not many. There weren't many new players that's why Jagex had to stop it or they would've run out of business quite soon.

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These are not all f2p worlds, you missed the other languages...

Unless the French worlds have 4000 people logged in at once, I don't see how it matters. The fact that they're running at about a quarter of their capacity after shutting servers down is troubling.

Of course it matters. If he wants to make a statistic he should do it properly. And there are 3 other languages, not only french btw...

And since the bot overrun it should be clear there aren't many legit f2p players left. Who would continue playing a game if he already gets spammed in the first 5 minutes? Yeah, not many. There weren't many new players that's why Jagex had to stop it or they would've run out of business quite soon.


Right now there are 406 free players on one French server, 1900 free players on two Portuguese servers, and 93 players on a German server. Still about the same ratio at 30%

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Including other languaged worlds, the disparity shouldn't be much. Maybe I should include 'rough statistics' in the title. :rolleyes:
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Right now there are 406 free players on one French server, 1900 free players on two Portuguese servers, and 93 players on a German server. Still about the same ratio at 30%

So there's a higher percentage of free players on the foreign language servers? I wonder why.

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Right now there are 406 free players on one French server, 1900 free players on two Portuguese servers, and 93 players on a German server. Still about the same ratio at 30%

So there's a higher percentage of free players on the foreign language servers? I wonder why.

It's a percentage of capacity. 8.6k / 64k versus 2.4k / 8k

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Assuming the numbers are proportional enough to be representative of the free-player base, yeah. Otherwise, no.

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Surprisingly low amount, somehow i get the impression its just the way Jagex wants it.


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These numbers represent how many people were online at one moment in time when the screenshot was taken.
 

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I've updated the first post, and added the percentage of the F2P playerbase to the whole RuneScape playerbase as of this time.
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Unless Members start gathering their own resources, I don't see Runescape existing without F2P.

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Yet again, Piu, you neglect the many F2P players who play in foreign worlds.

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I find it comical how overdramatic people are being about this. They are taking away One thing from f2p ( something generally not even used by the players that would consider members). Yet somehow " No one will play f2p anymore!" and " Jagex is actively destroying f2p".

This is no different than the pop-up ads in f2p, it's a small update trying to get more members. The f2p game has not fundamentally changed. People who wanted members will get it because they want more to do, not because they can sees that they are ranked 1.4 millionth in fishing.
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I think you could have a game of manhunt on one of the worlds with 53 people on it

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I find it comical how overdramatic people are being about this. They are taking away One thing from f2p ( something generally not even used by the players that would consider members). Yet somehow " No one will play f2p anymore!" and " Jagex is actively destroying f2p".


I cannot agree with this comment. I think, firstly, that people are not being overdramatic - the reactions that I see on these forums and on the RSOF seem to be rather sober under the circumstances. You must understand that even Jagex thought this would be a very controversial update - why else would they have announced it a week beforehand? You might infer that they announced it only in the "In other news..." part of their news post. But the other part of their announcement was not exactly new (with the exception of the RS Wiki which is equally controversial from the fan site point of view) - that there would be a whole new website we knew since the BTS for November.

The other part of the above quoted statement that I deem critical is the generalisation you make here. I assume you refer to yourself in saying that f2p players do not (I quote) "generally" use the hiscores, not even those f2p players who consider becoming members. Well, I for one would have to disagree. While I was a pure f2per, it was a challenge to get all my skills ranked on the hiscores. As soon as I would log out after hours of hard work, the first thing I would do was look in awe at my rather mediocre (by today's standards "noobish" :P) levels. The hiscores were a form of entertainment matched only by that my friends provided me in-game. I had over 20M exp in one skill before I decided to become a member so as to accelerate my progress. Once I left the members game and decided to take a break from RS, I still returned from time to time to see my ever dropping ranks. Then I started playing the F2P game again, referred to the hiscores and again decided to renew my membership. So what I'm saying is: for f2pers, former members and members alike, the hiscores are a point of orientation and rather enticing. They mark our achievements.

This community does not only consist of members. F2p is the backbone of the member version. Without f2p, the member version would never exist. On tip.it, we have many pure f2pers, whose achievements will be negated with this update. So yes, if people are being overdramatic: good for them. Taking away one thing from f2p is a big deal, as it has never happened in the past. It is also a warning to all of us that Jagex can take away anything they want, and that we have no way of changing that.

This thinly veiled disapproval of f2pers that I have seen from certain people is quite ironic, seeing as we all have been f2pers in the past, and not one person has bought p2p without having previously been in f2p (and have liked it enough to buy membership).

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This only represents how much a member plays compared to a non-member. If you assume a member plays 3x as much as a nonmember, then suddenly the player base is almost evenly split member/free player.

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