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Regarding The Great TIF Survey: I was honestly expecting the average age range to be much older. I wish there was a way to measure maturity, because TIF posters must be mature beyond their age from what I've seen the years I've been posting.

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Very well directed article, Bly. Some of your points I couldn't have expressed better.

 

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It was interesting to see the survey. I too, would've thought that tip.iters would be older on average :P

 

 

Not quite sure how I feel about the second article...I guess it's for fun, and you got me grinning a few times...but I don't know, the way it is setup, as if it was the truth is kinda weird for me. But that's probably just some personal issues, idk.

 

The article on efficiency was very interesting and well writte. I can totally relate to the feeling of fun you get out of figuring out how the game works. I'm not an efficienado myself, but for me it's penguins :P I've learned a lot about how NPCs move and stuff like that in my years of playing the game and it really is quite fascinating :P

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An epic year ip ahead, these new Harpies should be fun. :thumbsup:

(Survey was interesting too, I'm 15 with 9 years of playing RuneScape, slightly out of the average :lol: )

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I didn't expect the survey, or its results - I didn't realize that the average person here had played 'Scape for an average of six years.

 

Explains a lot of what's going on (in terms of morale) rather neatly, if I do say so myself...

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First and foremost...

 

Phat's off to the Tip.it Times staff. I really didn't expect issues to be released over the holiday period, thank you all. :thumbsup:

 

Hamataro article -

 

I was one of the participants. Or at least I filled in a survey. I also was surprised by the results. For one thing, I expected the average age to be lower than it appeared. Using the data for folks that posted in November seems reasonable, but maybe if the post count was upped it would have changed the result. Just look at my joining date and number of posts! I'm a long time lurker on the forums, but rarely feel the need to add a comment, often because "yeah, me too" or "I think the same" seems pointless. However, I think that the criteria seems sound (I'm not a statiisticion, so feel free to quibble) but I do wonder if the criteria was applied to, say around a major update like bot nuke day for instance, when the forums seemed busy prior and post the update, we might get a very different demographic resulting. Then again, my expectations are based on my in game experience, not my forum experience.

 

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If only! More of this kind of article, and we will get a mention in the 'Computer game urban myth' dictionary! I loved it. Let's hope Jagex is watching. (As an aside, I've often thought that if Jagex placed some random event/item drop/conversation without making the event/item/drop/conversation public knowledge, it would be a VERY intriguing aspect of the game)

 

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I too have a whole world of D&D from RS, y'no, those irritating things like work and family, lol. So I also want to train efficiently. I used to spend hours working out drop rates, best places to smith, etc, but ended up spending less time playing that working out the best way to play! Kudos to the 'effiacienados' that take the time out and publish their findings, they are the unsung heros of any fansite. But it can become obsessive. After all, I'm not taking time out between the clicks to chat to anyone, or even glance at the DVD I might have put on. Which misses the point of the game for me. I really don't mind if I plan to run laws for an hour, but spend half of it directing someone with a clue. After all, when I first started RS, so many people answered my noob questions, I'd be doing them a disservice if I didn't answer some myself (to misquote a fave book of mine)

 

All in all, a great start to the Times 2012.

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First and foremost...

 

Phat's off to the Tip.it Times staff. I really didn't expect issues to be released over the holiday period, thank you all. :thumbsup:

 

Hamataro article -

 

I was one of the participants. Or at least I filled in a survey. I also was surprised by the results. For one thing, I expected the average age to be lower than it appeared. Using the data for folks that posted in November seems reasonable, but maybe if the post count was upped it would have changed the result. Just look at my joining date and number of posts! I'm a long time lurker on the forums, but rarely feel the need to add a comment, often because "yeah, me too" or "I think the same" seems pointless. However, I think that the criteria seems sound (I'm not a statiisticion, so feel free to quibble) but I do wonder if the criteria was applied to, say around a major update like bot nuke day for instance, when the forums seemed busy prior and post the update, we might get a very different demographic resulting. Then again, my expectations are based on my in game experience, not my forum experience.

 

Monkeychee -

 

If only! More of this kind of article, and we will get a mention in the 'Computer game urban myth' dictionary! I loved it. Let's hope Jagex is watching. (As an aside, I've often thought that if Jagex placed some random event/item drop/conversation without making the event/item/drop/conversation public knowledge, it would be a VERY intriguing aspect of the game)

 

Jaffy1 -

 

I too have a whole world of D&D from RS, y'no, those irritating things like work and family, lol. So I also want to train efficiently. I used to spend hours working out drop rates, best places to smith, etc, but ended up spending less time playing that working out the best way to play! Kudos to the 'effiacienados' that take the time out and publish their findings, they are the unsung heros of any fansite. But it can become obsessive. After all, I'm not taking time out between the clicks to chat to anyone, or even glance at the DVD I might have put on. Which misses the point of the game for me. I really don't mind if I plan to run laws for an hour, but spend half of it directing someone with a clue. After all, when I first started RS, so many people answered my noob questions, I'd be doing them a disservice if I didn't answer some myself (to misquote a fave book of mine)

 

All in all, a great start to the Times 2012.

 

Thanks for the kind words, however Alg wrote the second article, I just edited :razz: (Same goes for the 3rd, Blyaunte was the author). Glad you enjoyed them though!

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Doh! <3:

 

I'm sure the editing was AWSOME, but I did really mean the authors.

 

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It is a group effort on the EP, and I doubt that anyone blames you for a little slip up.

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Doh! <3:

 

I'm sure the editing was AWSOME, but I did really mean the authors.

 

In real life, I'm not blond, but I have this inner blond pixie... if only there was a support group.

 

It is a group effort on the EP, and I doubt that anyone blames you for a little slip up.

 

Very true, just wanted to clear it up :razz:

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First and foremost...

 

Phat's off to the Tip.it Times staff. I really didn't expect issues to be released over the holiday period, thank you all. :thumbsup:

 

As previously pointed out, I merely edited Blyaunte's article, but thank you so much for the kind words. I think it's safe to say we all appreciate it greatly. :)

 

 

I really don't mind if I plan to run laws for an hour, but spend half of it directing someone with a clue. After all, when I first started RS, so many people answered my noob questions, I'd be doing them a disservice if I didn't answer some myself (to misquote a fave book of mine)

 

I can totally relate to that. :D

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All very interesting stuff, though I'd have to say its the survey that really caught my eye. I had totally forgotten that was going on (I was one of the respondents).

 

There are 3 more sets of graphs I would love to see if possible. I would like to see the age, education, and opinion of Jagex graphs again, but this time split them up by gender. I would be very interested to see how they compare to each other.

 

And I had to laugh at the other category in North America. I am guessing that 3% is either from Mexico, or people from Quebec being funny. Since you called it other and not Mexico, I have to wonder if it was a combination of the two? I'd love to know what the breakdown for that 3% was too.

 

The teasers were interesting, though I have to admit I am very tentative about the idea of a Graphics month. I am envinsioning even higher computer loads, and an interactive content free month. Then again, I have a lot of agility (and farming apparently :evil: ) training to do, so no new distractions could be good for me.

 

Also, a good article by Bly. It is nice to see another perspective on the issue, and it might reduce the arguing surrounding the issue too, which would be a relief for everyone I'm sure.

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Is the bts real?

Based on the tags for the article, I do not believe so.

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[spoiler=Stats:]Updated December 22, 2011:

 

Total level - 1442 - 170M+ XP , Combat level - 115

Combat skills: Attack - 90, Defence - 99 (24.45m+ XP), Strength - 90, Constitution - 99 (16.42M+ XP) Ranged - 99 (13.32M+ XP), Prayer - 60, Magic - 99 (13.25M+ XP)

Non-Combat skills: Cooking - 99 (13.80M+ XP), Woodcutting - 99 (31.95M+ XP), Fishing - 90, Firemaking - 99 (24.82M+), Crafting - 90, Smithing - 90, Mining - 85, Runecrafting - 60, Dungeoneering - 85

 

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Just so there's no confusion, Behind the Scenes 2012 is humorous fiction. Alg thought we should start the year off with a smile. :)

 

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All very interesting stuff, though I'd have to say its the survey that really caught my eye. I had totally forgotten that was going on (I was one of the respondents).

 

There are 3 more sets of graphs I would love to see if possible. I would like to see the age, education, and opinion of Jagex graphs again, but this time split them up by gender. I would be very interested to see how they compare to each other.

 

And I had to laugh at the other category in North America. I am guessing that 3% is either from Mexico, or people from Quebec being funny. Since you called it other and not Mexico, I have to wonder if it was a combination of the two? I'd love to know what the breakdown for that 3% was too.

For North America, there was 1 Costa Rican and 1 Mexican. I grouped those from Quebec into Canada.

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I really enjoyed Blyaunte's "Understanding Efficiency", it was refreshing to have a different perspective that included efficiency for the sake of having more time for fun things. While I personally would choose a slower method of training where I could do other things like watch a movie at the same time, when a player asks for help they don't need an opinion on how fun something is.

 

If I ever need advice on how to have fun, then I am playing the wrong game.

 

This is what really hits the point home, help and advice needs to be a place where the best methods are shared, separate from your personal opinion on what is most enjoyable. Fun is a variable depending on the player, statistics and game knowledge is fact that should be the basis for offering advice.

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All very interesting stuff, though I'd have to say its the survey that really caught my eye. I had totally forgotten that was going on (I was one of the respondents).

 

There are 3 more sets of graphs I would love to see if possible. I would like to see the age, education, and opinion of Jagex graphs again, but this time split them up by gender. I would be very interested to see how they compare to each other.

 

And I had to laugh at the other category in North America. I am guessing that 3% is either from Mexico, or people from Quebec being funny. Since you called it other and not Mexico, I have to wonder if it was a combination of the two? I'd love to know what the breakdown for that 3% was too.

For North America, there was 1 Costa Rican and 1 Mexican. I grouped those from Quebec into Canada.

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Thanks for those graphs. It amazed me that the average age of males and females has a 10 year difference, which explains the education levels. The survey article was by far my favorite. The fake bts, I know so people would find it funny, but not me. I prefer real information so i skimmed it. The number cruncher article was good. It put a new opinion on a subject that i thought was way over done.

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Aww, it was made up. Ah well.

 

And thanks for the extra graphs. My guess is that the difference in education and and opinion are probably more related to age than to gender (especially the education). I find that getting older changes your world view a bit, especially from say 18-19 on (not sure where it ends, since I am in the middle of that changing view).

 

And thanks for the explanation on the other category.

 

Good work :thumbsup:

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