Hotfix: Toy Horsey Phrases

[Mirror]

Didn't even know this was still an issue. Shows how much I care. As said, just make it an offence.

[spooferfish]

They should put some sort of gambling system in where you can gamble without just giving the host a stack of money and hoping they actually pay you if you win. People are going to keep finding ways to gamble. Make a gambling npc of some sort, so players aren't getting a huge advantage from it.

 

I dunno... It' hard to combat this. Aside from just throwing all random outcome things out of the game.

 

But then, maybe they will start gambling based on hits... Give host money, guess the hit, attack guard or something.... =\ Good beating this Jagex.. :ohnoes:

[Sir_Squab]

Jagex should 1) make gambling an offence and 2) screw with hosts by changing the likely hood of certain events. Also, the idea of thieving would probably work well. Get people with 99 thief so you can get a rough idea of win percentages.

 

Seriously, I thought it WAS an offense, with all the effort made to remove it. Like bots tho, Jagex seems determined to break it without banning players for it. Honestly, eventually it will probably move to combat if nothing else. What in the hell will they do about that?

[999134]

They should put some sort of gambling system in where you can gamble without just giving the host a stack of money and hoping they actually pay you if you win. People are going to keep finding ways to gamble. Make a gambling npc of some sort, so players aren't getting a huge advantage from it.

 

I dunno... It' hard to combat this. Aside from just throwing all random outcome things out of the game.

 

But then, maybe they will start gambling based on hits... Give host money, guess the hit, attack guard or something.... =\ Good beating this Jagex.. :ohnoes:

A gambling npc would create gp, not a good idea :/.

[mr_mystery84]

Awesome! Great idea... Love it!

[Jordyy]

Seriously what is actually wrong about it? If I want to gamble part of the risk assessment is that i'll get scammed. Coming from the POV of never been scammed ever I'd have to say anyone who gets scammed is always there own fault for not being cautious enough. Luring/Scamming/Gambling shouldn't be against the rules.

[Bxpprod]

Good, now make it against the rules.

THIS

Did they forget that Pmods existed or something?

 

Easier than that. Add in rule: Gambling.

 

With right click reporting, getting rid of these people has never been easier.

 

Seeya dual arena

[SwreeTak]

There is no way to fight it.

They should just add a simple official dice game with duel interface for gambling cash.

That's a great idea :) I support this!

[Logdotzip]

shouldnt be against the rules just because some dipshits dont know when to stop or where to bet at

 

no thanks to all of these ideas

 

if so, cya RS income

[Crossed_Body]

Easier than that. Add in rule: Gambling.

 

With right click reporting, getting rid of these people has never been easier.

I'm going to have some fun on the duel arena if that happens.

[Jeffery]

Still to be removed: Seal game(rotate numbers 1-6 back repeat), Dung cape (Set orders, E.G Melee,Mage,Range in that order always),Classic Cape (once again always in order), Flower game(set patterns always),Easter Ring (Set pattern order) This is all they need to do I don't see why it takes them so long.

[swagcake]

jagex can just patch the next gambling game when it comes out, so gf gamblers.

anyways they're annoying.

[Kirschen]

For the flower game, they could actually have some fun. Wait for people to work out the odds and a standard game, and then silently change the odds on them so that the host is at a disadvantage. Rather than take away the toys, keep the hosts guessing so that they never know when the game is going to screw them over.

 

Simply brilliant. You don't realize how hard I am grinning right now at how amusing that idea is.

 

For Jagex, they should just make it an offence and then have a little fun messing with the hosts as Randox suggested above if they still persist. As much as I like the creativity of the players, I don't like it when it's abused when the thing they used was intended for graphics or fun.

[Assume Nothing]

The emergence of black-markets will probably occur soon enough. I hope JaGex realises this isn't the effective way of correcting market failure.

[Riptide Mage]

The emergence of black-markets will probably occur soon enough. I hope JaGex realises this isn't the effective way of correcting market failure.

 

It happened weeks ago using an IRC bot to simulate dice rolls.

[brunokiller]

Which turned out to be backdoor'd and abused for billions of gp.

[Stev]

shouldnt be against the rules just because some dipshits dont know when to stop or where to bet at

 

no thanks to all of these ideas

 

if so, cya RS income

The people against gambling are either the ones who didn't know when to stop and got cleaned or the ones who've never tried it.

 

How can Jagex say don't gamble and yet support the duel arena and other methods?

[Omali]

shouldnt be against the rules just because some dipshits dont know when to stop or where to bet at

 

no thanks to all of these ideas

 

if so, cya RS income

The people against gambling are either the ones who didn't know when to stop and got cleaned or the ones who've never tried it.

 

How can Jagex say don't gamble and yet support the duel arena and other methods?

 

Jagex has said not to participate in these because they allow for too many scams.

[Kaida23]

They really need to do away with the whole "against the spirit of the game" cop-out and just make it against the rules.

[strilmus]

But I thought the entire point of duel arena was to find exploits and then trick people into fighting you, then Jagex never actually punishes anybody for it. That place practically SUPPORTS scamming.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

But I thought the entire point of duel arena was to find exploits and then trick people into fighting you, then Jagex never actually punishes anybody for it. That place practically SUPPORTS scamming.

 

That sounds more like the early-mid days of the Wilderness, but they eventually hardened on their stance of luring (after much shouting from those with actual sense).

[Cow]

I'm not opposed to dicing/horsing/egging/capeing/sealing/flowering/whatever the hell it is now. I've done one dice game that a "friend" was hosting, won 500k, walked. That being said, I think its mostly a negative activity for the game so I understand them trying to neuter it. Probably they'll assign an order to seals/flowers/cape/easter ring (which I would have loved 6 years ago as a noob, wanting to get the rune gold trimmed egg to match up with the line of people as eggs. good times) and eventually make it a rule. I wish there were options to stake on games room and some kind of update (highscores? some type of reward items?) to make it more attractive. I've gone with friends to play connect 4 there, it's a pretty fun way to waste xp. Anyways, staking on that would require more "skill" than dicing, and probably much of duel arena staking, barring wierd setups and 15 item switches that take more skill that switching attack styles.

 

How far is this going to go though? They've taken apart dice bags for doing what they were introduced for, now they've ruined toy horseys for everyone else (okay, no-one uses them). Are they going to make dg capes really cycle between styles, remove flowers, etc? How much more content will they remove to stop dicing. And when everything else is gone, they'll move onto odd/even hits on a guard or something. RS and chance are too intertwined. For every fix they implement dicers will find a new item. The only success I've seen with dice/horse removal has been changing public view of dicing clans, from pseudo-glamorous rich gangsters paying off mods to mute rivals, to the shady guy in the alley trying to sell knockoff brand goods.

 

I love what they did for toy horsey. I wish I was at the ge when the fix went live to see reactions to it. Lol.

[strilmus]

problem with connect four games is that they've made programs that will definitively win or tie the game within all realm of mathematical possibility, so there's no way it'll work there

 

betting on punching a guard? that sounds way more fun than the current ones

[NukeMarine]

Look, common sense here: So long as there's a means to transfer wealth, you're not going to get rid of RWT or Gambling or Whatever else that goes against such and such spirit of the game. Now, you can limit it such as tracking one way trading between two non-interacting accounts wrt real world trading or just removing all manner of randomly generated events near banks wrt gambling. Does that get rid of either, no. However, it severely limits it to the extreme ends of players with minimal impact on the majority.

 

Jagex will not make gambling illegal because there's too many ingame activities that allow fair versions of that (rat pits for example). Just get rid of systems that create random occurrences. Horse phrases, flower colors, seal numbers and whatever new emote they create happen in a predictable fashion. Hell, they could bring back dice, just prevent their use within X squares of any bank in addition to only being available to people on your friends chat who've been there for at least 1 week. This is not rocket science. Don't demonize gambling, just make it inconvenient.

[Logdotzip]

can't stop gambling ever, unless free trade is taken again

 

until then jagex has done what they needed to to keep gov't off their asses about being a casino, and hopefully did what they needed to to stop most of the incessant whining about gambling

 

if you don't like something, don't do it, if you don't trust it, don't do it. don't ruin how other people enjoy the game just because you don't think it's fair. what if gamblers don't think it's fair to have their games taken? believe it or not some people like the rush of high risk/reward type stuff. and if they know where to dice at, there is no risk of scamming involved.