The Back Room

[Nexaduro]

I can't watch TTGL, attempting to do so would only make me lose my lunch over the horrendous handling of physics in relation to the combat mechs.

 

Also according to Urban Dictionary's definition, there's no such thing as a gar for me. I'm a 0 on the Kinsey scale, which is quite ironic seeing as I have a sort of thing for tomboys.

And yet, you deign to watch sparkly girly porn.

 

I guess there are some things I'll just never understand.

 

@Lei: If you have the patience and requisite upper body strength, you could read The Way of Kings. Pretty much anything by Brandon Sanderson is good, really.

[Alg]

@Lei: If you have the patience and requisite upper body strength, you could read The Way of Kings. Pretty much anything by Brandon Sanderson is good, really.

This.

 

Especially the upper body strength thing. It could double as a weapon in a pinch.

[The_Mather1]

The only sparkles in those animes have been as parody or surrounding girls. And in the cases where it was as parody, the anime has been entirely PG-13.

 

EDIT: No, wait, FMA isn't PG-13, too much blood. But still no nudity there.

[The_Mather1]

The parody in the anime you suggested is only in the form of an excessively active narrator, that's acceptable.

 

Also the art style is nearly identical to To Aru Majutsu no Index, and the male lead looks exactly like the MC from Bakemonogatari.

 

EDIT: Also I new I recognized some of the voices; the narrator and the MC have the same voice actors as Kuroko and Kanzaki from To Aru Majutsu no Index respectively, and the loli has the same voice actor as one of the secondary MCs from To Aru Kagaku no Railgun, a spin-off from To Aru Majutsu no Index.

 

EDIT2: And looking at the character list, who do I see as a voice actor? Rie Kugimiya. Seriously, that woman has her voice in EVERYTHING. Not complaining though, the four tsundere wonders; Shana (from Shakugan no Shana), Louise (from Zero no Tsukaima), Taiga (from Toradora!) and Nagi (from Hayate no Gotoku) have forever embedded a great impression of her in my head.

 

EDIT3: I knew it, J.C. Staff, same producer as To Aru Majustu no Railgun.

[Nexaduro]

Somehow you manage to ruin everything you touch

 

Glad you like it, though

[The_Mather1]

That's overanalyzation for you. It's way more fun to watch when I do it to people though, as you can watch them turn desperate as they're trying to deny everything.

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Whenever people talk about Anime I just get 'Talalalala' fade in.

 

 

Also of note is that scoring a zero (or Ten/Six) on the Kinsey Scale in pretty much akin to having a major mental condition...The inability to appreciate beauty in one or the other gender.

 

People who actually score zero in properly conducted tests tend to be emotionally damage, typically though assault at a young age, leading to disgustment with their own body and the bodies of other people of the same sex.

Which conflicts with you, especially as you often comment on your narcissism.

 

 

The Kinsey Scale is much misused and misunderstood, as is sexuality generally. Most people are typically 1-5. I'd probably say a one would be more accurate for you...You aren't liable to develop a spontanous, or even creeping, attraction to another member of the same sex, but you can look at another guy (and yourself) and go 'Yup, I can see why people might find that attractive'.

 

A joke often told by woman, related to this, is that a woman will wake up on the worst-looking day of their lives and look in the mirror and identify exactly how they would improve their look. Men will wake up on the worst-looking day of their lives, look in a mirror and go 'Yeah, I'd do me'.

 

Anywho, you will innevitably disagree, but other people might be educated, Archi, AWAY.

[The_Mather1]

It's true that I often think "I'd do me" while looking in the mirror, but I am literally incapable of discerning what is and isn't attractive when it comes to other men except from a truly objective perspective. I can think stuff like "that's an appropriate amount of muscle mass" or "that's a healthy tan", but not "he's hot". Same would go for women if not for my balls doing the judging.

And keep in mind that you're talking to someone who grew up dedicating his entire life to one girl and who has a stomach and imagination that can put even /b/ to shame. There is something wrong with me.

 

I'm not even exaggerating here, this isn't some attempt to brag about my manliness. Since to be honest, I wouldn't even give a shit if I woke up one day and found out it'd been turned into a woman, but I'd still be exclusively into women.

 

 

And Nex, to give you a clue about why my anime repertoire is that long already; I just finished Ookami-san Shichinin no Nakama-tachi, even though when you suggested it, I was still working on Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu.

[The_Mather1]

Alright Nex, you told me to find a gar, and even though he's not exactly one, it's the closest thing you'll find for me. Usui Takumi from Kaichou wa Maid-sama, he's the first ever character (from any format) to fit my standards for what a man should do in any given situation, and hence he's the first character I'm willing to call a true man.

 

Although he still manages to be a slight douchebag about it, the fact that the girl is an extra sadistic tsundere weighs up for it.

 

EDIT: Ok, he even goes a bit further than that.

[Nexaduro]

I despise you with the intensity of a thousand suns, Mather

[Leiana]

Nex, Fairly Odd Parents reference? (If it were then you made a slight error, since its "white hot intensity of a thousand suns".)

 

Who here knows how to speak in more than one language?

[The_Mather1]

I do seeing as English is my second language, I can also fluently read French out loud (but not speak it without a manuscript seeing as I've given no shits about maintaining my abilities in it) and I've picked up enough Japanese to formulate very simple sentences and make exclamations. In addition with just a little help from Google Translate I can write coherent and structurally and grammatically correct sentences in Latin.

 

 

Also Nex, I don't see why that statement would agitate you. I find 99.999% of males to be insufficient to be called true men, if anything that's a good thing, because holding high standards for the male gender means I'm holding high standards for myself, so I'm less likely to act like an [wagon] towards ladies.

[Alg]

I admit that I'm not an anime fan, but I'm pretty sure that's not what gar is.

[The_Mather1]

A gar is a male whom you, as a straight male, are attracted to. That guy is the closest thing for me since he's the first character to qualify as a man in my book.

 

I wouldn't do him myself, but he's the kind of guy I'd want my daughter to date.

[Nexaduro]

Nex, Fairly Odd Parents reference? (If it were then you made a slight error, since its "white hot intensity of a thousand suns".)

 

Who here knows how to speak in more than one language?

Not everything is a reference, Iey

 

Though now that you mention it, the phrase might have carried over from my childhood... It's about 50/50

[Leiana]

Um, I'm Lei, not Iey.

 

Speaking of Iey, I wonder what she's up to... Haven't heard from her in a while.

[Ieyfura]

Same as I always do; Lurk in the corner and watch everyone else while quietly sipping my ale.

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I wouldn't do him myself, but he's the kind of guy I'd want my daughter to date.

 

I am sorry, but this character is far to two dimentional to ever exist...

(Reality, I want a new, more believable, Mather. Jk)

 

He is super attractive, smart, best at sport, doesn't care about hurting people's feelings, but cares deeply about not embaressing people, is a stalker, is rich, has no parents(though is apparently not messed up by this in any way).

 

If such a character were to exist in the real world all I could say was that someone downloaded his personality into him, since, organically, it could not exist.

Personally, I think when he jumped from the school roof that he should have just died...

Something tells me the number of angry fans would have been very entertaining.

(Note to self, if I become rich buy all the animes and kill off the two dimentional characters...Also buy a dummy house filled with police.)

[The_Mather1]

You don't know what two-dimensional means, do you?

 

Two-dimensional is when what you see is what you get, when there's no underlying reasoning, thought process or hidden agenda, everything is what you would expect from the character according to what has already happened and there's no exception to his behavior, ever.

[Resistance]

I'd recommend nobody even consider starting an argument about the above.

 

http://i1.theportalwiki.net/img/b/b8/Portal2-12-Cara_Mia_Addio.mp3

 

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You don't know what two-dimensional means, do you?

Two Dimensional:

Flat, Insipid, Uninspired, Predictable, Cliched...Etc.

 

The story, and therefore the character, is two dimensional.

There is a guy. All girls love him. Except one. Who he loves.

There is a guy. He has riches. He has smarts. He has good looks. He has muscles.

There is a guy. He loves a girl. He is cold hearted. His parent's didn't love him/died.

 

So the Two-Dimensional comment is really targeted at his complete lack of Depth. (Alternatively, his lack of complexity)

 

 

Really 'Two Dimentional' is the antithesis of 'What you see is what you get'.

 

Which makes me think that you are just trolling, as per normal.

[The_Mather1]

So tell me, where did you get that he's coldhearted from? Or what happened to his parents? Or that he's rich?

 

Just because he fills a few tropes doesn't mean his character is a cliché.

 

 

That coldheartedness is just snark, it's evident as [bleep] that he's not actually coldhearted. The only thing we know about his parents is that he's not living with them. And the only thing we know about his finances is that he's in no way struggling.

 

And what you call a lack of complexity is just that he never speaks his mind. To anyone who can read people, he's more complex than 3/4ths of all the MCs there are out there.

[Nexaduro]

Stop talking

 

Don't talk again

 

Please

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Coldhearted: Tells every girl, except magic girl, that he is not interested, without ever deeming it neccessary to cushion it.

Parents: Distinctly remember him saying his parents died in a business accident.

Rich: He just lives in an expensive condo in the middle of Japan.

 

And no. His lack of complexity stems from him being a two dimensional character. The fact that he doesn't monologue or whatever is simply the designer being 'mysterious'...something designers always use to hide the fact that the character is two dimensional.

 

For instance the 'Mysterious Stranger' in every spagetti western ever. While people like to think there is 'something' going on in the mind of 'The Mysterious Stranger', the truth is that the facade just gives the writer licence to do whatever they want.

'Oh in the end I shot the evil guy because...' *Looks hardboiled*

'Wow, you are so epic mysterious stranger'

*Rides off into the sunset*

 

 

Really, the only reason the story gets any traction...like just about any trash fiction story...Is because the reader/watcher can identify with the character...For instance you clearly identify with his outlook in love 'He is wholeheartedly committed to a woman who doesn't return his affections' (and then she does, giving all the people who identify with that outlook hope that their own lives will eventually deliever them to their 'true loves').

It doesn't matter that he is rich, or Japanese, or the best at sports, or smarts, or, or popularity, or whatever because just about everyone considers themselves to fall into one (or more) of those catagories. So they identify with that aspect, and because all human experiance is largely the same (In a serious sense there is very little difference between a person at the height of the intellectual ladder and the height of the sports ladder, the main difference is the ability, which anime relegates to insignificance...also the circumstantial factors, such as parents, being poor, not being inherantly capable, and so on, are simply not there.) people can see 'themselves' in the guy who is doing something they wouldn't be able to.

 

Its like the horoscopes that say:

'You worry when you are at home, in private. You may feel, wrongly usually, that your family does not love you, that they do not understand you, that you are lonely, and that your father is too strict.'

Which, unless your father is dead, applies to just about everyone, despite them seeming quite specific.

 

Similarly:

'Impersonal detachment or cold-looking demeanours may hamper your communications although they increase your concentration, your patience, and your ability to study and to accumulate knowledge. As far as your entourage is concerned, quality prevails over quantity, and you can easily alternate agitated and eventful periods with periods of solitude.'

 

 

You can see the same thing in the Twilight series. The fact that the guy is a Vampire is largely irrelevant because girls are (in general) attracted to guys that are 'emotionally complex', especially when they act in a 'chivalrous' way to spare the girl's feelings.

 

 

 

 

It just provides an entirely unrealistic ideal for people to wish for...or to escape from reality with...Which, unsuprisingly, leads to their problems increasing, rather than decreasing.

[Resistance]

Stop talking

 

Don't talk again

 

Please

 

These arguments used to have value. Now you're just fighting for the sake of fighting.