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umm I'm just wondering how reduced is reduced. .

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To me I only have a qualm about not being able to stack them, because I actually wanted to get those skill levels by doing strange rocks every week so i can open my own effigies

Should have just put a hard limit on the effigies, something like 1 reading or 30k exp daily

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They can help the situation they have made by allowing you to assist for more than 30k exp per day. However, after the initial 30k exp, you gain no experience through assisting.

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They can help the situation they have made by allowing you to assist for more than 30k exp per day. However, after the initial 30k exp, you gain no experience through assisting.

That would make people pay high levels to assist their effigies, because honestly I'm not going to stand at Daemonheim assisting people for no reward.

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I'm not sure they handled it well by side-lining it with the "In other news..."

I do believe this will push some, if not most players away from camping for them in the attempt to max. I've liked Effigies, but I felt like they were far too common and absurd.

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They can help the situation they have made by allowing you to assist for more than 30k exp per day. However, after the initial 30k exp, you gain no experience through assisting.

That would make people pay high levels to assist their effigies, because honestly I'm not going to stand at Daemonheim assisting people for no reward.

Well no, but you would assist a friend who needed one done. (unless you are just *that* efficient or cold hearted)


Also, it would also reward those people with high rc/herb/smithing exp with a little money if people were to pay them for assists.

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umm I'm just wondering how reduced is reduced. .


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A combat player is forced to do many non combat skills to get their hands on Completionist cape (the best stats cape),
But when a combat player kills monsters for effigies to level RC through effigies - it's wrong?

TELL ME : How is it in the spirit of Combat to level skills you don't like to get your hands on a Cape that you want?

I find it hypocritical that EFfigies drop rate and cap has been put.




It takes 1) time to get Effigies and 2) Time to open them (whether that be boost or not).
I certainly used over 5min+ sometimes to open a effigy with boost. (Spicy stews).

With 5 Effigies cap ull have less effigies requiring same skill and level.
So you use between 3 to 10min to open ONE effigy. Not to mention if you get your 5th Effigy you might want to cancel what your doing if you want to keep on getting effigies.

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Well, not being able to have more than 5 is good imo, people could just use over 100 effigies in one day and get a most XP in X skill in a day record without actually training the skill, thus taking the previous #1 spot away from someone who got it 'legit'

But reducing the chance after each effigy? Totally unnecesary. The 5 effigy cap was fine.

And I guess the nerf was necesary after the combat level update

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"Before it gets worse" was SIX MONTHS A YEAR AGO.

This is too late, and happens to be actually worse than never, now that all these players already have had the advantage of them. Players who weren't fighting high level monsters or weren't able to now won't have this benefit, putting the other players that much more ahead of them.

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Well, not being able to have more than 5 is good imo, people could just use over 100 effigies in one day and get a most XP in X skill in a day record without actually training the skill, thus taking the previous #1 spot away from someone who got it 'legit'

But reducing the chance after each effigy? Totally unnecesary. The 5 effigy cap was fine.

And I guess the nerf was necesary after the combat level update

They could fix the game in a way that Effigies don't affect your highscore.
They don't have to ruin effigies

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Well, not being able to have more than 5 is good imo, people could just use over 100 effigies in one day and get a most XP in X skill in a day record without actually training the skill, thus taking the previous #1 spot away from someone who got it 'legit'

But reducing the chance after each effigy? Totally unnecesary. The 5 effigy cap was fine.

And I guess the nerf was necesary after the combat level update

Problem is we can do nothing anymore to fix this as 2 years of effigy hoarding has already taken over the records page.

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I don't think it was entirely needed. I can understand why mummies were nerfed. They were just way too easy. All you had to do was stand there, without clicking, and get effigies at a pretty damn decent rate. I was averaging more than 1 per hour.
What i don't understand is why Effigies as a whole got nerfed. To collect Effigies fast enough to make them an efficient alternative to training some of the slower skills you had to either:
a). Do something with that requires a high APM (Glacors/TDS) and have decent equipment to do so, or
b). Do something that required a lot of money (Cave Crawlers).

Either of these two would take a lot of work to get to the stage where you can efficiently do them. Making the money, doing the quests, etc.
Being so close to Max, planning everything out with the mind that i would have been using Effigies for a lot of the exp i still needed, this might be a bit of a setback.

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Honestly didn't need the max cap of 5.. Just say can't open more than 5-6 final stages of effigy every few hrs.

The drop rate needed to be nerfed IMO, but not much. The bank cap is lame, though it does mean more people getting free assist xp..

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I like this update. Many players who got 99 rc feel like they were being joked at since a person could just go and kill glacors. Twice the fun, twice the profit, twice the exp.
One thing is getting through slayer: yes I like that idea, but the fact that you make them even better than actually training the skill. And don't say it's still runecrafting, you're not doing anything about runecrafting to get xp on it.

But tbh, I blame jagex on this. They should have been more careful when they implemented them, especially since they offer way high xp rewards (if you don't assist). But this was getting out of hand, people thinking that effigying a skill was legit. Guess what, it is, but it ruins the spirit of the game and only promotes more and more pvm. So yes, good job jagex.

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My interaction with effigies is pretty limited. To be honest, I hate them because I hate getting them opened (I only have 2 skills that can open them, so I always need at least two assists). That said, I have a friend who has been keeping all their construction effigies for me, and I've been using them to gain some extra xp. The current arrangement allowed him to get get one or two a day, and considering the starting stock pile, I was set for 30k con xp a day for another week or two at least (already been doing this for two now), and probably 1 or 2 a day every day after that until he decided to kill something else.

He gets enough a day that he might need to try and seek out other assisters for that skill, though I suppose con effigies are really easy to find if I want to take the time, so I'l live.


My real beef is the timing. People have been stockpiling effigies pretty much since they came out, and they are only now deciding they want to do something about it? Its a little late for that. If its going to be ruled that this was a problem, then it should have been fixed on the same week Jagex figured out people were hording them, not a year later.




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