Dire_Wolf Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Start DICING people :D :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Going to buy 75 Spins just for the heck of it, see what the outcome is.I'll post what i get for anyone that cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Star Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Going to buy 75 Spins just for the heck of it, see what the outcome is.I'll post what i get for anyone that cares. It's been done a thousand times already, you're just giving Jagex more profit as a reward for this crappy idea of theirs. Don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Can we get buyable loyalty points now? That, at least, makes more sense than paying real money to win 50gp. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 [hide]I really wonder how this is legal. Is this RWT? Definitely Is this gambling? Definitely Is this gambling in the legal sense? That depends on whether the courts give virtual items(which may or may not be your property - this isn't quite sure either) a value. If there is a value in them, then it would be gambling in the legal sense, as far as I can see (No law student or anything though). It seems like they're walking fine line...but you probably wouldn't win a case against them.[/hide] Going into these two posts, according to Dutch law online gambling is illegal. Gambling for minors is also illegal. The law refers to gambling as games of chance, contests, etc. Basically any kind of chance game, so wheels of fortune would fit that description too. Jagex does not have a licence for this (I seriously doubt my government allowing that), and most of the game's players are minors. :thumbup: Another thing I'm wondering...which country's laws apply? British ones because Jagex is a british company? The laws of the country the servers is in(This is what I'd personally guess)? Or the country the player is in? If it was the last, then lol it would sure as be illegal in some countries. With the other two options it's not quite as clear...would have to know the laws to be able to judge that...I am no expert on law, but as far as I know there is a very big grey area as far as foreign internet sites/games are concerned. Either way, if it is illegal in the UK it shouldn't be too hard to stop Jagex in court... Costs are another story though. :unsure: Online gambling is legal in the UK, but Google tells me you need to purchase a license to develop the software, and presumably it's subject to certain taxes. I'm not much of a lawyer though, I don't know anything past that. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoRob Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Another thing I'm wondering...which country's laws apply? British ones because Jagex is a british company? The laws of the country the servers is in(This is what I'd personally guess)? Or the country the player is in? If it was the last, then lol it would sure as be illegal in some countries. With the other two options it's not quite as clear...would have to know the laws to be able to judge that...The Snellman brother's were taken to court in California, I cannot remember the reasons behind it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomdevil321 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Just a question: I get 2 spins daily because I am a member. If I buy more spins do I just get to use them one time? or do they keep coming back daily? So if I bought the 10 dollar one I would have 2 spins from member + 25 spins daily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripsis Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Just a question: I get 2 spins daily because I am a member. If I buy more spins do I just get to use them one time? or do they keep coming back daily? So if I bought the 10 dollar one I would have 2 spins from member + 25 spins daily?It's a one time purchase. You're just buying the spins you're paying for to use them one time. They do not keep showing up every day. You use them and then they're gone forever until you buy more. - 99 fletching | 99 thieving | 99 construction | 99 herblore | 99 smithing | 99 woodcutting - - 99 runecrafting - 99 prayer - 125 combat - 95 farming - - Blog - DeviantART - Book Reviews & Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auror Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuyI8ODFG-c&feature=g-u-u&context=G2dce0f0FUAAAAAAAAAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Party Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Ummm....at Runefest, Jagex said they wouldn't be introducing an in-game casino because it would be a "legal nightmare" due to gambling laws... Excuse me, but isn't this gambling? A lot more than an in-game casino even would be, considering that GP only have real world value if you break the rules....whereas here there's no doubt about the real world value...? It is only gambling if the buyer can win real money or membership.(the mystic tattoo lifetime membership was a one time promotion) I am not sure abut the membership, but as soon as Jagex makes it possible to sell things won from the wheel for real money (without breaking their rules) it is gambling.It will then be taxed and bound to hundreds of rules. Me and the wise old man go way back.... he was a foolish boy back then. My crystal armour idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Predictions: "Kid uses parent's credit card to gamble on online game" - Lawsuite against Jagex? Jagex nerfing SoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xInfinityx Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Predictions: "Kid uses parent's credit card to gamble on online game" - Lawsuite against Jagex? Jagex nerfing SoF.Prediction: In 2013, There will only be Bots and rich players InRealLife left in Runescape. | 99 Attack | 99 Strength | 99 Defence | 99 Hit Points | 99 Prayer | 99 Magic | 99 Summoning | 99 Ranging || 99 Agility| 99 Woodcutting | 99 Construction | 99 Fletching | 99 Herblore | 99 Runecrafting | 99 Thieving || 99 Firemaking | 99 Crafting | 99 Runecrafting | 99 Cooking| 99 Smithing | 99 Construction | 99 Fishing || 99 Hunter | 99 Farming | 99 Slayer | Divination 99 | 115+ Dungeoneering |Total Level: 2590+Max Cape - Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 *sigh*As long as the wheel has a chance of winning something that is greater than the value the player payed to play in the first place, and a chance that they'll win something of significantly less value than the player payed, that constitutes gambling since there is an inherent risk of loss; not total loss, but loss nonetheless. Honestly what bugs me more than it probably should is this microtransaction shit is that it's now built into the damn UI in the game. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codecRS Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 atleast we know why effigies were nerfed now http://www.youtube.com/codecrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auror Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ_TOH Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Wouldn't have mind them being a drop (as a bonus to the normal drop), alternate rewards from minigames (that the player can choose to have) or randomly getting some from skilling like strange rocks But paying money to gamble in a MMO? Oh dear what have you done Jagex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sees_all1 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism?Wilderness nerf. 99 dungeoneering achieved, thanks to everyone that celebrated with me! ♪♪ Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thoughtHave some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself ♪♪♪♪ And I'm not doneAnd I won't be till my head falls off ♪♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auror Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism?Wilderness nerf. You mean the one, where they brought the Wild back after 4 years? I was thinking of a removal after 1 week (or so) of releasing the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonanananas Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism?Wilderness nerf. You mean the one, where they brought the Wild back after 4 years? I was thinking of a removal after 1 week (or so) of releasing the update. Yeah, they've not really done that because of the criticism. In terms of a full reversal of a bigger update(more than patch notes) I can't think of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Oh hahahaha. I almost considered coming back to RS just to max DG and hang with some real life friends. Not anymore. If they made RS P2P free, but with micro, I'd be ok. Micro+Sub? GTFO. Another thing I'm wondering...which country's laws apply? British ones because Jagex is a british company? The laws of the country the servers is in(This is what I'd personally guess)? Or the country the player is in? If it was the last, then lol it would sure as be illegal in some countries. With the other two options it's not quite as clear...would have to know the laws to be able to judge that...The Snellman brother's were taken to court in California, I cannot remember the reasons behind it though.It depends on were the law was broken. EG if Jagex broke an American law, it would be a U.S court. If Jagex was suing an american company, it would be in US court as well. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sees_all1 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism?Wilderness nerf. You mean the one, where they brought the Wild back after 4 years? I was thinking of a removal after 1 week (or so) of releasing the update.Other thing I can think of is the token requirements for DG items, but that was a "we already planned this, but thanks for the feedback." 99 dungeoneering achieved, thanks to everyone that celebrated with me! ♪♪ Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thoughtHave some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself ♪♪♪♪ And I'm not doneAnd I won't be till my head falls off ♪♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sohkmj1 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 It would have been fine to just add the extra spins from other sources. This is just absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism?Wilderness nerf. You mean the one, where they brought the Wild back after 4 years? I was thinking of a removal after 1 week (or so) of releasing the update.Other thing I can think of is the token requirements for DG items, but that was a "we already planned this, but thanks for the feedback."And the reduction of spirit shards from 50 gp to 25 gp, but once again that's just messing with the numbers not a full reversal. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 A Question: Has Jagex ever removed an update due to the huge amount of criticism?Wilderness nerf. You mean the one, where they brought the Wild back after 4 years? I was thinking of a removal after 1 week (or so) of releasing the update.Other thing I can think of is the token requirements for DG items, but that was a "we already planned this, but thanks for the feedback."And the reduction of spirit shards from 50 gp to 25 gp, but once again that's just messing with the numbers not a full reversal. I think they could "mess with the numbers" by making "paid spins" unable to give xp lamps. In turn, perhaps they'd increase the chance of Wheel specific items, such as tattoos, hats, horns etc. [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehosaphat Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Oh Jagex, you're so funny, you really got me goo- wait a minute. This is the 2nd, not the 1st. ....What the hell? This is actually a thing that happened? So not only did they improve the little brat that had no real place in the game besides "HEY GUISE WIN FREE SHIT OVER HERE AND SUB FOR WINNING MORE FREE SHIT", but they made it so you can pay even more to spin more? I'll... I'll be right back, I need a moment. And then I'm going to go watch this shitstorm over on the RSOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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