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Could someone tell me if it is really a piece of cake to recover one's account when you know the one's original name? I mean, what the hell? I have heard people complaining about this, but is this issue really that extreme?

I mean, I was earlier in one of the Top-5 player's chat, and when I asked if the player's original name was the one I heard (knew) of, He asked "Why"? 2 other people jumped on me like FBI agents and accused me of Acc Recovering. I was like "WTH?"

 

I don't really know about Jagex's new REcover Systems or any other systems, I usually Just go to the RS frontpage and straight click the Play-button. I haven't read a newsletter for over a year now. So, could anyone enlighten me?

 

Or is there any other reason people want to keep their original name's as a secret?

 

I am not asking these questions to rec someone's acc, I just want to be informed about the risks, and what I need to keep as a secret to prevent getting hacked etc.

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Some players are just a little paranoid. :smile: Me included.

 

You can't recover an account just by knowing it's original account name, but it can be used as additional information for recovering your account, albeit that will hardly affect the account recovery process.

 

Now knowing the original password ..

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To attempt to recover accounts created before November 2010, you need the original name to start the process.

 

Some players get paranoid that you will try recover their accounts if you know their name. I'm positive you need more than that to recover an account and anyone who says otherwise is a paranoid cynic.

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If you get the user name, you can easily find out a LOT about a player, looking at forum profiles could lead to facebook, real names, relative's names... There is tons of ways to get recovered. Random recoveries are the way to go, as well as a bank pin. :thumbup:

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Knowing someones original name doesn't make much of a difference, I've known someone who recovers account and I'm pretty sure if they can obtain enough info on your account then finding your original name is nothing, the recovery system is good enough in the sense that guessing a few details won't achieve anything, for the most part recoverers have access to tools and information which allows them to abuse the system, just don't post your life on the internet and your safe :)

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I tried recovering an old account the other day - you have to type the original name in as a way of logging in, but after that you still have the same standard criteria: recovery questions, earliest passwords you can remember, last 4 digits of the card you used to get members etc. It's still as secure as it's always been, although it's possibly too secure seeing as I couldn't remember half the crap on there and they wouldn't give me my account back haha.

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I heard about acc recovering as a means of hijacking accounts in early 2006, this is when it really started to become commonplace (in the sketchier side of rs). If someone knows what they're doing, and knows the flaws of Jagex's Account Recovery system it isn't extremely hard to recover someones account with just a basic amount of information. The biggest thing you can do to protect yourself is to log in frequently, even if you "quit".... inactivity makes recovering an account much easier. The account recovery system is program based, the answers you give for password and recovery questions don't need to be exact they really only need to be 1-2 characters off. A common method is for someone to type aeiou147958 or something like that, all of which would be considered common characters in a recovery answer.... also yes, be careful what you tell people or information you put on the internet, jagex TELLS you what information you need to change in order to recover an account after a failed attempt.... the most important keys to unlocking an account seem to be creation details, original ip/location, and oldest password.... oftentimes just by doing a simple search you can come up on topics people have posted that give you alot of information... for example almost all blogs have an "about me" section, oftentimes people will tell you what state/country they're in and approximate creation date if their account... thats stupid.

 

Older more inactive accounts are the easiest to recover, most of those were picked through by people who know how to recover by 2008/09, todays recoverers seem to use more advanced methods, but that is the gist of how people are able to recover once you get it narrowed down to only need a different pass, or diff creation details it just becomes a matter of time/guessing game. The old system should reallllllly be updated, but meh. Until then the best thing we can all do is make solid answers, and keep your valuable personal information just that... personal.

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The account recovery system is program based, the answers you give for password and recovery questions don't need to be exact they really only need to be 1-2 characters off.

Hmm, I didn't know that.

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I actually tried this with one of my older accounts the other day to see how easy it was. I filled in all of the information that I would expect someone to be able to find; IPS, location, age of the account, etc. Essentially everything except the recoveries and the old passwords. It was denied and it essentially said that so long as I didn't have at least one old password, it would always be denied. So as long as you make your recoveries random and not able to guess (ie: 'who was your first friend' - 'potatochips') and keep your passwords secure (ie: unique password for RS), you should be fine.

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