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2012 U.S. Elections - President Obama Re-elected


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  1. 1. Which Candidate Will You Vote For?

    • Mitt Romney
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    • Barack Obama
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Well, lets be honest. Republicans hate when Democrat presidents lie, but defend Republican presidents whey they lie. Democrats hate when Republican presidents lie, but defend Democrat presidents when they lie. The anit-Bush hate was just liberal reaction to not having a Democrat in the White House, and this anti-Obama hate is just conservative reaction to not having a Republican in the White House. Bill Clinton impeached for lying? No, impeached for having bad conservative values. [rant] So forgive me if I don't give a damn why you think X President is bad, because I doubt you don't see it as a party issue. [/rant]*

 

Regan-loving, pro-life, anti-socialist hates Obama? Gee, I wonder why.

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Bill Clinton was impeached for perjuring himself. Not just lying, but lying under oath, which is a felony.

 

If Obama's administration would call a spade a spade, Libya would be a non issue.

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Because Bush lied to the American people for 2 weeks following the attack. Oh, and his administration was watching the hijacking live for 5 hours before the planes crashed into the WTC, right?

 

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Weapons of Mass Destruction, yeah he wasn't wrong about them being in Iraq he lied about it to go to war.

 

Im just saying its not about Bush or Obama being liars to advance their foreign policy its about EVERY modern president doing so.

 

How is lying about Libya advancing foreign policy?

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I'm voting for Gary Johnson to hopefully help him and the libertarian party get the 5% they need for federal funding and such, considering there are no real differences between Obama and Romney on the issues that matter to me (NDAA, the role of our military, long term solutions on cutting the debt that actually work, the patriot act, making it legal to do what we want to with our own bodies, etc)

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In my opinion all of them will say they will do things just to get your votes. Doesnt mean they'll actually do it, obama has done extraordinary well with what he got given when he took power.

Even if a new guy takes power he wont make it better over night

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I'm voting for Gary Johnson to hopefully help him and the libertarian party get the 5% they need for federal funding and such, considering there are no real differences between Obama and Romney on the issues that matter to me (NDAA, the role of our military, long term solutions on cutting the debt that actually work, the patriot act, making it legal to do what we want to with our own bodies, etc)

My problem with Gary Johnson is he first ran as a Republican, and when that didn't work out he started running as a Libertarian.

 

So which is he, a Republican or Libertarian? And then ads for him tick me off. "You need a third choice..." Out of Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Tim Pawlenty, Thaddeus McCotter, Buddy Roemer, and you, Gary Johnson, Americans picked Mitt Romney. How many more choices do we need?

 

And if you can't get any significant support from the Republican party in the primary, why would they support you in the general election?

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In my opinion all of them will say they will do things just to get your votes. Doesnt mean they'll actually do it, obama has done extraordinary well with what he got given when he took power.

Even if a new guy takes power he wont make it better over night

It was an incredibly historical moment when Obama got elected, and on that basis alone he will go into the books as a very notable President. If we're being more cynical though... what exactly has Obama achieved? Even his greatest 'victory' in the reforms he made to healthcare ended up being very watered down to what was originally intended, and incredibly diluted to what is seen elsewhere in the developed world.

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In my opinion all of them will say they will do things just to get your votes. Doesnt mean they'll actually do it, obama has done extraordinary well with what he got given when he took power.

Even if a new guy takes power he wont make it better over night

 

Oh lawd here goes blaming Bush again.

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In my opinion all of them will say they will do things just to get your votes. Doesnt mean they'll actually do it, obama has done extraordinary well with what he got given when he took power.

Even if a new guy takes power he wont make it better over night

 

Oh lawd here goes blaming Bush again.

But it's still a completely valid point, I don't see what the problem is.

In my opinion all of them will say they will do things just to get your votes. Doesnt mean they'll actually do it, obama has done extraordinary well with what he got given when he took power.

Even if a new guy takes power he wont make it better over night

It was an incredibly historical moment when Obama got elected, and on that basis alone he will go into the books as a very notable President. If we're being more cynical though... what exactly has Obama achieved? Even his greatest 'victory' in the reforms he made to healthcare ended up being very watered down to what was originally intended, and incredibly diluted to what is seen elsewhere in the developed world.

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Also, The Economist has endorsed Barack Obama for President.

 

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Going to do a lot of cutting and pasting; I believe this will be behind a paywall in a few days:

 

How Far Obama Has Fallen

 

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Which gets us to Tuesday. No one knows what will happen. Maybe that means it will be close, and maybe it doesn't. Maybe a surprise is in store. But the fact that Barack Obama is fighting for his political life is still one of the great political stories of the modern era.

 

Look at where he started, placing his hand on the Bible Abe Lincoln was sworn in on in 1861. It was Jan. 20, 2009. The new president was 47 and in the kind of position politicians can only dream ofa historic figure walking in, the first African-American president, broadly backed by the American people. He won by 9.5 million votes. Two days after his inauguration, Gallup had him at 68% approval, only 12% disapproval. He had a Democratic Senate, and for a time a cloture-proof 60 members. He had a Democratic House (256-178) with a colorful, energetic speaker. The mainstream media were excited about him, supportive of him.

 

His political foes were demoralized, their party fractured.

 

He faced big problemsan economic crash,two warsbut those crises gave him broad latitude. All of his stars were perfectly aligned. He could do anything.

 

And then it all changed. At a certain point he lost the room.

 

Books will be written about what happened, but early on the president made two terrible legislative decisions. The stimulus bill was a political disaster, and it wasn't the cost, it was the content. We were in crisis, losing jobs. People would have accepted high spending if it looked promising. But the stimulus was the same old same old, pure pork aimed at reliable constituencies. It would course through the economy with little effect. And it would not receive a single Republican vote in the House (three in the Senate), which was bad for Washington, bad for our politics. It was a catastrophic victory. It did say there was a new boss in town. But it also said the new boss was out of his league.

 

Then health care, a mistake beginning to end. The president's 14-month-long preoccupation with ObamaCare signaled that he did not share the urgency of people's most immediate concernsjobs, the economy, all the coming fiscal cliffs. The famous 2,000-page bill added to their misery by adding to their fear.

 

Voters would have had to trust the president a lot to believe his program wouldn't raise their premiums, wouldn't limit their autonomy, wouldn't make a shaky system worse.

 

But they didn't trust him that much, because they'd just met him. They didn't really know him.

 

You have to build the kind of trust it takes to do something so all-encompassing.

 

And so began the resistance, the Tea Party movement and the town-hall protests, full of alarmed independents and older Democrats. Both revived Republicans and, temporarily at least, reunited conservatives.

 

Why did the president make such mistakes? Why did he make decisions that seemed so unknowing, and not only in retrospect?

 

Because he had so much confidence, he thought whatever he did would work. He thought he had "a gift," as he is said to have told Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. He thought he had a special ability to sway the American people, or so he suggested to House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

 

But whenever he went over the the heads of the media and Congress and went to the people, in prime-time addresses, it didn't really work. He did not have a magical ability to sway. Andoddlyhe didn't seem to notice.

 

It is one thing to think you're Lebron. Its another thing to keep missing the basket and losing games and still think you're Lebron.

 

And that really was the problem: He had the confidence without the full capability. And he gathered around him friends and associates who adored him, who were themselves talented but maybe not quite big enough for the game they were in. They understood the Democratic Party, its facts and assumptions. But they weren't America-sized. They didn't get the country so well.

 

It is a mystery why the president didn't second-guess himself more, doubt himself. Instead he kept going forward as if it were working.

 

He doesn't do chastened. He didn't do what Bill Clinton learned to do, after he took a drubbing in 1994: change course and prosper.

 

Mr. Obama may yet emerge victorious. There are, obviously, many factors in every race. Maybe, as one for instance, the seriousness of the storm has sharpened people's anxietiesthere are no local crises anymore, a local disaster is a national disasterso that anxiety will leave some people leaning toward the status quo, toward the known.

 

Or maybe, conversely, they'll think he failed to slow the oceans' rise.

 

We'll know soon.

 

Whatever happens, Mr. Obama will not own the room again as once he did. If he wins, we will see a different presidencyeven more stasis, and political strugglebut not a different president.

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The same is true for any President. In fact, scratch that, the same is true for any political leader operating in a democratic system and a mass media as developed as the US's.

 

Incumbent governments lose popularity over time? Thanks, Captain.

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If there's anything more vulgar than politicians using personal catastrophe to further their own causes, and there's been plenty of that by both sides in the past few days, it's people like Kanye West using it as a soapbox. Even if you believe Bush hated black people around Katrina, it's completely inappropriate to express those opinions in that context.

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So the first bit of news on Benghazi from ABC paints a positive picture for the Obama administration. Who'd have guessed. :rolleyes:

 

You blame the Republicans for politicizing this, but as I've demonstrated in previous posts there has been a double standard from September 12th. Romney condemns the apology, the President condemns the apology, and the media challenges Romney on "politicizing" the issue. The administration for 2 weeks claims that the attack was a riot spawned from a spontaneous demonstration, and the media still criticizes Romney for "politicizing" the issue, when in reality the administration was covering up what really happened to make their foreign policy look good.

 

It's mind boggling how corrupt the mainstream media is.

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