DDOSing in runescape

[999134]

I have been the victim of a ddos attack while staking, losing a blue partyhat worth around 3000m, I have proof on video + even another video with proof of the people behind it demanding money in return for "protection".

 

What can I do, I have reset my router but I have a feeling they can ddos a range, it is absurd that this has happened, some people are just scum.

 

< the youtube for cash in return for protection

< the actual blue loss, videoed after i had disconnected, they ddosed me as soon as I clicked accept.

 

 

Discussion value, what does this show about the state of runescape these days, recently I was also scammed for 2b while staking, but this is far worse and there seems to be little I can do to protect myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: response to an email I sent jagex.

 

Hi there,

 

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

 

I have passed on their names to our specialist team of investigators who will take care of the situation for you. Although these users would have to have gained access to your IP address somehow in order to DDoS you.

 

We are aware of the issue and are investigating the problem.

 

Kind regards,

 

Mod Ben W

[RSI]

Always happened?

 

About the "protection",

 

If your ip is static, change ip and never stake again, only 20b or so left in bank oh noz

 

If its dynamic, then quit all irc , forums etc when staking, reconnect when done

[999134]

The only forum I ever use is tif, I never use skype, IRC, msn or anything.

Always extremely careful with my IP, cannot see how they got it.

[Rock Hard]

I'd guess tif mods can see your ip, just sayin'

[XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX]

DDoS happens in every single game, get over it.

[Noxx]

This has got nothing to do with the state of RS but rather it's users. This is something beyond the control of Jagex. When high amounts of gp are at stake, which is potentially worth 5 months's rent, you can expect people to cheat/scam/glitch/bug/ddos.

It is something that should almost be expected as a high staker.

[RSI]

The only forum I ever use is tif, I never use skype, IRC, msn or anything.

Always extremely careful with my IP, cannot see how they got it.

 

 

 

Tif database leak, ip from links you've been to. Social engineering from your name. Corrupted tif mods (People pay like £30 for a single ip leak).

 

Ofc they wouldnt apply if you had a dynamic ip.

 

 

Anyways the person who ddosed you is known for ddosing for a while now. idk why you still staked anyways l

[Jolletzu]

In your case most likely situations are corrupted tif mods, and imageshack or any other picture host service someone had rented to grab ip's.

 

Not much you can do about it unless you have dynamic ip

[Mercifull]

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[wolfmon56]

Being in top 5 p2p/f2p/single/multi clans for the past 7 years, ddosing has been getting increasingly worse.

If your IP is static, they could have had it for MONTHS and checked for your name on a list of ips and went from there. If your ip is dynamic, there's a good possibility you clicked to view a website, picture, whatever and they got your IP (It's extremely simple to get someone's IP).

 

As for taking action against it? Impossible. Having a botnet/shelling people is illegal, but in no way will they EVER get caught unless they do it to a government website and the government traces the packet-ed data. Even if you understand how to trace where packets came from, you would still need to contact the government and convince them they need to get a warrant and search someone's computer for a botnet/shells. However, this will never happen for the most part.

 

The best thing to do is to change your ip daily if it's dynamic (by unplugging your router, waiting 30 seconds, and plugging it back in). If it's static call your ISP and get them to change it to a dynamic IP. If they say they can't, keep on their ass for however long it takes until they do (threaten to change providers because you're disappointed in their service). If worse comes to worse, just stop staking.

[Ned]

I'm not surprised. They potentially just made over 1000 dollars(?), which is enough motivation for people to go to these lengths. Definitely consider dynamic IP changing.

[Kimberly]

Corrupted tif mods (People pay like £30 for a single ip leak).

In your case most likely situations are corrupted tif mods

 

No one on the Tip.it Staff is selling your information - we're working extremely hard to protect it. One example of that would be how the majority of the staff actually can't see these important personal information tidbits that are so vital to things like recovering your RS account.

 

As Jolletzu pointed out, a lot of people use image scrapers to grab your IP. This method is actually fairly easy to do, doesn't generally come up to people as a "red flag", and is pretty damn common. This one is the most likely explanation simply because it's the easiest to get away with, and the least recognized.

 

Wolfmon is completely right. DDoS'ing is huge in high-stakes pking and the clan world. It's a quick and cheap way to cripple your opponent and basically hand you the victory. The best thing for you is prevention.

[Omali]

Fine timing. I wrote a bit last night about the game Garry's Mod and how DDOS'ing of servers by the cheating community has almost obliterated the game and caused most of the best programmers to abandon the game. It is seriously pathetic how petty people can be over an online game. It's getting bad enough that server hosts are dropping the game due to bandwidth costs.

 

ISPs should be investing money into stopping DDOS attacks at their source.

[Fallstar]

People go so far as to ddos for as little as 200m. Pathetic I know, but when rsgp and actual money are so easily exchangeable, these sort of problems will always occur. And whilst the lengths people go to in order to obtain an ip address may surprise you, a blue partyhat is currently worth around 2.6B - thats around $1000.

[XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX]

^Why not DDOS for a quick $100 if its up for grabs? Don't tell me you wouldn't say no.

[ForsakenMage]

This is going to sound harsh, but the fact that you are a well-known high staker with your videos and posts makes you an even bigger target for such attacks. There will be people who scout out for people like you to make that quick buck in real life, and will use any means to get what they want because they've identified you as someone who can "afford" to lose, knowing full well you can make it back.

 

It's nice to relish in the victories, but maybe it's time to tone it down, and work on prevention like everyone else has said.

[Sana]

^Why not DDOS for a quick $100 if its up for grabs? Don't tell me you wouldn't say no.

 

I'll oblige and not tell you that I wouldn't say no, I would say no.

[Logdotzip]

I used to be very open with my staking and all my winnings and profits. And I ended up losing a couple billion to DDoSers who got my info from "friends".

 

I don't really ever stake anymore, when I do it's like 10mils and stuff, but even now, I don't go on about it to people. Keep it low key. The ego boost you get from showing off your wealth isn't worth the risks.

[Nobody]

Welcome to the clan world since 07? 08?

[Toad]

Yeah database leaks etc they can get your ip easily.

 

I'm sure all of our IP addresses are in a database somewhere from a leak, it happens, this is the internet.

 

We're all targets if they have something we want, it's how the world works, people only need to understand how a system works to get around it, it's what they do in espionage, they do in hacking, or database leaking.

 

Sadly you're a successful staker without a doubt and you know how staking works intricately so some people may want a slice of your success.

 

Luring, DDOSing, hacking, recovering.. all a part of this game, it might be a side we choose to overlook and some say it wasnt here 10 years ago, well it was just on a smaller scale.

 

It's not very fair no, but you can definitely "rebuild" just be more cautious although 20b it's not entirely rebuilding, sadly I believe using a proxy to access Tip.it is not allowed and you will be blocked, so you can't mask your IP, I guess the only way to truely go about it would be to make a new account with your stats and keep the name a secret to have a staking account, only then would you be competely safe.

 

I'm sorry for your loss and hopefully you can win that back without too much trouble in the not too distant future.

[Pinata]

^Why not DDOS for a quick $100 if its up for grabs? Don't tell me you wouldn't say no.

You know DDosing is illegal right? I think most people have common sense not to DDoS for pixel items, whether or not they intend to sell it. Not like you'd get in trouble for doing it on RS, but why take the risk? I would say no and I'm sure most people would.

 

Honestly, though biggest regret on Runescape is supporting free trade. I forgot how pixel-obsessed people are... and it seems like scamming/luring/hacking is a lot worse than it was pre-GE even though we had a lot of it still. I mean nowadays we have half the community (not TIF thankfully) who support luring and all that bs.

[RSI]

^Why not DDOS for a quick $100 if its up for grabs? Don't tell me you wouldn't say no.

You know DDosing is illegal right? I think most people have common sense not to DDoS for pixel items, whether or not they intend to sell it. Not like you'd get in trouble for doing it on RS, but why take the risk? I would say no and I'm sure most people would.

 

Honestly, though biggest regret on Runescape is supporting free trade. I forgot how pixel-obsessed people are... and it seems like scamming/luring/hacking is a lot worse than it was pre-GE even though we had a lot of it still. I mean nowadays we have half the community (not TIF thankfully) who support luring and all that bs.

 

 

You obviously have no idea about p2p single/staking

[Kimberly]

^Why not DDOS for a quick $100 if its up for grabs? Don't tell me you wouldn't say no.

You know DDosing is illegal right? I think most people have common sense not to DDoS for pixel items, whether or not they intend to sell it. Not like you'd get in trouble for doing it on RS, but why take the risk?

 

Most straight-laced people would say no, you're right. But the truth is, there is almost 0 risk in hacking and ddossing other players because they're impossible to track and hold up in a court of law. It's a costly, difficult, and lengthy process to get enough evidence to prosecute little Tiny Tim with his cheap botnet from Amsterdam.

[Naraku893]

Dynamic ip/ddos protected router/don't use stuff that shows IP to anyone

[Arceus]

I was feeling sorry for you until you had to show that 20b bank you had left. Then jealousy took over. :(