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Those are some pretty lazy fake bills (read: laser printer and normal paper) to be spotted that easily.

 

I always get a kick out of people risking jail time over a computer game, real world value or not. Something about that scenario is always so surreal.

 

Other than that, nothing new, except perhaps the gun part. Also the RWT element is new I think. The past incidents I remember have been people who knew the account owner in person, and I think they always stopped at knives.

 

Also, as a side note, that he didn't take the real hundred dollar bill makes me wonder if he thought is wasn't robbery if he didn't steal anything real. I feel like even if that were the case, pointing a gun at someone still seems like it's against the law, even if it was a bb gun.

 

I wonder though if the gun was even real. Why call it "realistic looking"?

 

Still though, I think it's illegal to pull a toy gun on someone if you remove that orange safety cap on the end of the barrel. For all practical purposes, the victim thinks it's a real gun.

 

If the gun is fake you avoid a slew of charges, such as attempted murder, possession charges, concealment charges, etc. AFAIK, there are no laws on how you modify a toy gun. And there are no laws, at least directly, regarding toy guns such as you stated. Otherwise, water gun fights would be a bit, well tricky i suppose. And then there are pop cap guns, and bb guns.As far as the kid goes, he's in trouble for sure. But doubt he will get more then a few years if any prison time at all. Will be interesting to see how it plays out legally. I wonder if the robbery charges could even be beat/dropped for example, as the gold "does not exist"? With a good lawyer I can def see the kid getting off the hook.


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Those are some pretty lazy fake bills (read: laser printer and normal paper) to be spotted that easily.

 

I always get a kick out of people risking jail time over a computer game, real world value or not. Something about that scenario is always so surreal.

 

Other than that, nothing new, except perhaps the gun part. Also the RWT element is new I think. The past incidents I remember have been people who knew the account owner in person, and I think they always stopped at knives.

 

Also, as a side note, that he didn't take the real hundred dollar bill makes me wonder if he thought is wasn't robbery if he didn't steal anything real. I feel like even if that were the case, pointing a gun at someone still seems like it's against the law, even if it was a bb gun.

 

I wonder though if the gun was even real. Why call it "realistic looking"?

 

Still though, I think it's illegal to pull a toy gun on someone if you remove that orange safety cap on the end of the barrel. For all practical purposes, the victim thinks it's a real gun.

 

If the gun is fake you avoid a slew of charges, such as attempted murder, possession charges, concealment charges, etc. AFAIK, there are no laws on how you modify a toy gun. And there are no laws, at least directly, regarding toy guns such as you stated. Otherwise, water gun fights would be a bit, well tricky i suppose. And then there are pop cap guns, and bb guns.As far as the kid goes, he's in trouble for sure. But doubt he will get more then a few years if any prison time at all. Will be interesting to see how it plays out legally. I wonder if the robbery charges could even be beat/dropped for example, as the gold "does not exist"? With a good lawyer I can def see the kid getting off the hook.

 

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You are completely and dangerously wrong.


You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level.

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Well afaik did not go far enough then :P Yea I was wrong there.

 

Still stands that a toy gun removes a handfull of other charges. It does not make it a non-violent crime, but does make it very easy to get a violent felony override.


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Buddy must have been pretty desperate to do something like this. Kinda confused to be honest. Either way, will be interesting to hear what happens as things progress.


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It was inevitable - the moment people make in-game wealth and real life wealth interchangeable, the distinction becomes insignificant. He was very well robbing him of a few grand.

 

This wouldn't have happened if Jagex actually had a coherent plan to combat rwt. I'd be surprised if they even internally acknowledge it.


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Too much truth in between the lines of that story. Does make you think twice about buying gold from somebody haha.


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Well afaik did not go far enough then :P Yea I was wrong there.

 

Still stands that a toy gun removes a handfull of other charges. It does not make it a non-violent crime, but does make it very easy to get a violent felony override.

 

No it doesn't. It still counts as assault with a deadly weapon since the victim has no idea its a fake, and the minimum is 2 years in state prison in most states.


You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level.

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Can't believe people would do such stupid stuff for gp.

Kinda funny though.


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Well afaik did not go far enough then :P Yea I was wrong there.

 

Still stands that a toy gun removes a handfull of other charges. It does not make it a non-violent crime, but does make it very easy to get a violent felony override.

 

No it doesn't. It still counts as assault with a deadly weapon since the victim has no idea its a fake, and the minimum is 2 years in state prison in most states.

 

Don't believe I ever stated it was not assault with a deadly weapon, or even assault for that matter.


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Emani said. “I couldn’t believe I was about to get shot over RuneScape! I was so scared I was about to die.”

 

Hahahahaha

 

Wouldn't he have respawned in Lumbridge anyways?

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If the justice system is anything resembling competent, the guy will at the very least spend a few years in jail for pulling a fake gun on him.

 

Doesn't surprise me. Pretty much every currency in an mmo that has player to player trading has real world value. At that point, currency is currency. Who cares if it's electronic? A... significant amount of real world banking is done purely electronically. I'd honestly expect that in the future, mmo cash would be treated very similarly to currency. (I also expect it to be at least 10 years away.)

 

And pulling a fake gun on someone doesn't surprise me either. We're talking about the buying and selling of goods that aren't available legally, even if it isn't illegal. Gray area here. Although... come to think of it, it's kinda dumb to pull a gun, even a fake one on the trade of something that isn't illegal. After all, they can tell the cops knowing that worst case scenario Jagex finds out and sues them. Meanwhile, the other guy gets locked up.

 

Kid got what he deserves. Moral of the story: never sell or help sell RSGP.

Wtf? How does that work? It isn't particularly morally wrong to sell RSGP and in no way warrants a gun being shoved in your face, even if it did turn out to be a bb gun which is significantly less likely to kill you.


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Grand larceny, I laughed.

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He was hit with charges including second-degree robbery and grand larceny and posted $20,000 bail.

 

If he could afford to post the bail, then surely he could afford to buy the GP legit?

 

Or am I just talking crazy? lol


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He was hit with charges including second-degree robbery and grand larceny and posted $20,000 bail.

 

If he could afford to post the bail, then surely he could afford to buy the GP legit?

 

Or am I just talking crazy? lol

 

Bail-bondsmen will often take collateral (like a car title) in order to post bail.


You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level.

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Humza Bajwa was getting robbed himself by Jonathan Dokler, I mean, $3,300 for 5 Billion, what a cheak! He could of had that for just shy of $3,000.

 

Basically robbing him of $300(+)!

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Could have had it for $1500 more like after the dupe.

 

What a strange thing to happen.


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I don't see how the fact that the robbed money was just 'magic coins' makes any difference. The robber can exchange them for $3,300. This makes it every bit as real as €2,700 (in an electronic format if you wish) which can also be exchanged for $3,300.

 

Print some play-money, go to a shop and try to buy a toy car with it. If the shop assistant refuses, say 'well, you're not selling real cars either.'

 

You can't pull this off because the toy car has real-life value, even if it's not a real car. RS coins have real-life value just like that, even if they aren't real coins.

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Nobody drew attention to the ending comment:

 

Dokler said he not longer plays the game but still tries to earn money for schoolbooks by buying RuneScape coins online and reselling them for a profit.

 

He might as well just flip Bitcoins, I'd imagine it's less risky (and doesn't pose the risk of problems arising with a company). It's just funny that he says he'll continue flipping when Jagex now knows about his identity and account(s), and NYPost seems totally oblivious that this is against their rules in the first place.


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Am I the only one that's annoyed that the kid who was selling the gp (Dokler) got away scot-free?

 

He even goes as far as to casually discuss what he uses the profit for. How bloody arrogant can you get. He's as much at fault as the "robber".


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A gun is bad, and anyone owning one should be put in jail immediatelly. The only reason people have it is for hurting others: so by owning one you immediatelly show that you aim to hurt others & attempt murder/dangerous wounds. As such the gun always be prosecuted for that. Simply for owning a gun.


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A friend of mine in our clan was telling me this, except he told me the story was with a BB Gun. I couldn't figure out why the individual being held-up at gunpoint with a BB Gun didn't fight back. This makes a bit more sense if he felt it was a real gun. Rather pathetic that people get robbed over their "magic coins" that they love so, so much... ;)

 

Also, to the crazy fellow posting prior to myself; have you never gone hunting, shot skeets, or defended property from predatorial animals?

 

 

 

defended property from predatorial animals?

 

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Say what??? Those animals have all the right to be there, you don't shoot them simply because they come to your "property". Wild animals are scared from humans, they only go to humans if it is their last option to survive & find food. You ought to blame your neighbourhood for YOU destroying their hunting grounds.

 

hunting on its own for "fun" isn't humane at all & should actually be a crime (which in civilized countries it is), same for ANYTHING real gun related. Only professionals should work with weaponry; and they should be constantly screened & only use the weaponry in their professional environment. (And never should act alone to always keep a peer reviewing actions).

 

 

You're calling me "crazy" for actually wishing other countries became as sensible as most european countries finally did in the last 30 years? I guess you're still gloryfying the cowboys as bringers of freedom?

 

 

Sorry, but predatorial animals killing livestock (which are the source of income and a means to feed the country as well as the homesteaders) do not belong. Due to the lack of trapping in this day and age, they have become over-populated and diseased (most commonly with mange). Similar problems have occurred with the varied species of deer as well as the elk populations, and have in turn increased disease potential (tuberculosis) and have hurt the other surrounding wildlife. In this area the hunting ground of the predatorial animals have not been destroyed, so I'm unsure where you hope your assumptions to lead you. There are actually a large number of areas set aside that are left untouched.

 

I also didn't mention hunting being for its own "fun" as you are once again assuming. Around here people go hunting so they can put food on the table and provide for their families, whilst helping to control animal populations. You must realize that when populations are allowed to grow to extreme levels and become rampant, as well as overcomed with diease, the government has no choice but to perform mercy kills (in which no consumable resources, edible or otherwise are gained). This is a very expensive task, and is the main reason why governmental bodies cannot be hired to control predatorial attacks all throughout a country, especially countries as extensive as Canada and the United States. This would simply be a step in the wrong direction, as any knowledge about the area shows. This has already been attempted with Conservation Officers, who will attempt to trap/kill problem animals, but then the livestock owner must also be re-imbursed for losses, which can be quite substantial when predatorial animals get free range for any period of time. This is why the public have these privledges. It saves everyone time, money, and heart-ache.

 

I was calling you crazy for irrationally condeming all gun owners to a poorly thought-out and apparently uneducated decision. A case of condeming everyone for the actions of few. Ironically those who make such choices always seem to be condemed themselves in the eye of the many. I'm unsure whether this is a problem of not having all of the facts, or simply ignoring the facts in order to make a view seem like the only potential course of action, but this thread is not the place for it. There is however one, if not multiple gun-related topics on the Off-Topic section of the forums. Posting there may be a better choice; for future reference of course.

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