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On the other hand, for a legal system that uses precedents, we could be stuck with the system they develop for quite a while.

That's ultimately the real problem, isn't it? I mean, how long have we had IP theft issues and how long has it taken the legal system to start to combat it (other than when the recording industry and multinational corporations pressure them into dealing with their specific problems)? It's like the people in charge have no idea what this is all about and so they're burying their heads in the sand until the problem becomes so rampant that they have no choice but to deal with it without fully realizing what it is they're dealing with. It's not unlike how print media, newspapers in particular, ignored the internet for two decades until it was almost too late.

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While the legal system has been incredibly slow to move on this, I think there is hope that at some point people who actually do have some understanding of what is going on will eventually enter the legal and political systems, and once this happens, the framework can at least be set up where the the industry can bring its cases to trial, and the legal precedents can be set.

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Why do you think I am nostalgic for restricted-trade? I don't long to go back to that time in RuneScape. I played RuneScape for a long time before restricted-trade, and I'm still playing now, with the present being my favourite time in the game. I'm just open to the possibility that restricted-trade could be overall beneficial to the game - I never said it definitely will be. It may have be worse for you, but that doesn't mean it will be worse for everyone.

I honestly understand your points and issues, and have experienced them. I would prefer other options to stop RWT and botting, but if these other options fail I'm just undecided whether I would prefer to continue with free-trade or a modified version of restricted trade.

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Part of the reason IP theft is not controlled legally is that it is notoriously difficult to prove, detect, or stop. I can have the same idea as someone else, so why should I be screwed simply because I didn't know about a patent? Sharing ideas seems natural, so why is it that people have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars/currency if they share music? We've applied a physical conception of property to the nonphysical 'idea'.

It benefits a few people at the expense of the community. While those benefits are definitely good for the person it is an interesting question whether society benefits because of it. (And even whether the individual does, as in cases with record labels who effectively take everything from the artist)

Legal laws don't really work because many people don't see it as wrong, and you can't really detect much of the theft/copying of ideas. It isn't even really "theft" in one sense because if I copy your idea, I don't deprive you of the original. I only deprive you of exclusive control. That really isn't the same thing as stealing a physical object. Now for digital items in game, that can be theft because you can actually deprive someone of it.

Either way, detecting online copying/theft would require completely rearchitecting the internet, and we've seen what happens when laws of that sort attempt to get passed (not withstanding those wouldn't really change anything about the actual makeup of the internet..) and the entire community of the internet basically says "no."

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BIG UPDATE

Win All Day - banned with 100b [win all day fc]
Stokenut - banned with 5b [fishy fc]
Smokin Mils - banned with #b [smokin mils fc]
Mr J Rune - banned with #b [smokin mils fc]
Pitiful - banned with 20b [fishy fc]
Maxy Pad - banned with 85b [fishy fc]
Cls Product + mules - perm locked / banned with 30b [cls product fc]
Mx799 - banned with 20b [cls product fc]
Joopi - banned with #b [no fc]
Lucky D - perm locked with 30b [fishy fc]
F44 - Perm locked with 13b, appealed, sold, then perm banned [fishy fc]
Jail - Perm locked/banned with 5b [fishy fc]
Pikin is Fun - Perm locked with 55b [fishy fc]
iZinC - Perm locked with 45b [fishy fc]
The WomD - Perm locked with #b [fishy fc]
Smite Yo BGS - permlock/possible reset [fishy fc] (might be 2 week)
Ranginranq91 - permlock/possible reset [fishy fc] (might be 2 week)
Gws2 - permlock [no fc]

NEW ADDITIONS

Fishy + mules - permlocked with ~120b [fishy fc]
Starrychelx + mules - permlocked with 200 - 300b [fishy fc]
Few other Fishy FC hosts that I haven't the names of yet.
Fear One - perm lock with ~50b [fear one fc]








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I was able to get a good handfull of rares for mid ge, yesterday I think it was. Was wondering who got banned/locked.

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well it happened today so idk about what happened with you

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may have been earlier today, can't quite remember exactly :/

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I love seeing this topic lol. keep it up :)

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Awesome, though I feel like I have seen some of those names on the banned list before (Stokenut and Smokin Mils), though I might just be more familiar with them and getting a false deja vu.

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Fear One - perm lock with ~50b [fear one fc]

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Finally they banned fishy and starry, it took freakin long enough.

This may sound stupid and I am very wary to believe it, but a friend who hosts in Fishy Fc told me that it took so long because both Fishy and Starry (and a few others) maxed out their spin buying every day, and Jagex was hesitant to get rid of 400$+/day revenue.
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Wouldn't doubt it... Hosts in there have made up to 12b, with luck ofc, in a single day. What's $400 to stay unbanned if you're making 10x that a day

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Or they could have been waiting to find out their mule accounts. Though if anyone is careless enough to plaster their name onto an FC and get famous they probably aren't using proxies to log into their mule accounts with.

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Fishy and Starry's rares haven't hit the ge yet.

They both had 3rd age druidic sets too. The ge value of druidic robe bottoms is only 400m or so, but their real value is 1.8-2.2B, something to look out for if you can't afford to snipe a blue or cracker :P

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I've noticed a price decrease in gold / mil today.

its about $0,43 per mil now while yesterday it was still $0,49/mil

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I've noticed a price decrease in gold / mil today.

its about $0,43 per mil now while yesterday it was still $0,49/mil


Right now you can't even get $.35/M in bulk. I wonder how much they moved before they were locked.

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Awesome, though I feel like I have seen some of those names on the banned list before (Stokenut and Smokin Mils), though I might just be more familiar with them and getting a false deja vu.

The top section of LDZ's list is always a recap of previous bannings. The bottom section are the new ones.

I've noticed a price decrease in gold / mil today.
its about $0,43 per mil now while yesterday it was still $0,49/mil

I've seen it lowering to about .40/m over the last week. Perhaps the spammers you've been seeing are just slow.

OT: It makes me happy to see people like this banned.

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BIG UPDATE

Win All Day - banned with 100b [win all day fc]
Stokenut - banned with 5b [fishy fc]
Smokin Mils - banned with #b [smokin mils fc]
Mr J Rune - banned with #b [smokin mils fc]
Pitiful - banned with 20b [fishy fc]
Maxy Pad - banned with 85b [fishy fc]
Cls Product + mules - perm locked / banned with 30b [cls product fc]
Mx799 - banned with 20b [cls product fc]
Joopi - banned with #b [no fc]
Lucky D - perm locked with 30b [fishy fc]
F44 - Perm locked with 13b, appealed, sold, then perm banned [fishy fc]
Jail - Perm locked/banned with 5b [fishy fc]
Pikin is Fun - Perm locked with 55b [fishy fc]
iZinC - Perm locked with 45b [fishy fc]
The WomD - Perm locked with #b [fishy fc]
Smite Yo BGS - permlock/possible reset [fishy fc] (might be 2 week)
Ranginranq91 - permlock/possible reset [fishy fc] (might be 2 week)
Gws2 - permlock [no fc]

NEW ADDITIONS

Fishy + mules - permlocked with ~120b [fishy fc]
Starrychelx + mules - permlocked with 200 - 300b [fishy fc]
Few other Fishy FC hosts that I haven't the names of yet.
Fear One - perm lock with ~50b [fear one fc]








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Fishy has a recorded livestream where he stated "I will not do huge pots like 30b in 1 go because I don't want Jagex to get a red flag on me for trading 30b to 1 player and having him sell it getting us all banned. I'd rather do small bets and have us go back and forth rather than one person coming out ahead and getting banned."
He's very good friends with Jacmob so I don't see him staying banned. Same with Starry.

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them getting unbanned would just completely show rwt is ok.
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