Jagex: Thinking of Gambling Alternatives?

[Sir_Squab]

Since all Flowers will be Red after EOC(I believe so anyways), it was only a matter of time before something like this happened.

 

What I hope they do is make flowers show as red to other players, but stay colored to the owner, because I do like all the choices :)

Naw, they should just make them come down in an exact pattern.

 

As for it being fake, I think the fact that what kimberly said makes sense. It's been here for 3 days, the last thing had j mod confirmation that it was false in less time then that.

[Kimberly]

I retrieved it from the RuneScape sub-reddit: reddit.com/r/runescape. I didn't want to specify at first, because I'm not sure if that sort of advertising's allowed. If it's relevant, then sure.

 

 

Mod Daezhuin (sp?) is pretty active on that subreddit and didn't post there confirming/denying it so IDK.

[RU_Insane]

I retrieved it from the RuneScape sub-reddit: reddit.com/r/runescape. I didn't want to specify at first, because I'm not sure if that sort of advertising's allowed. If it's relevant, then sure.

 

http://www.reddit.co..._to_dicing_and/

 

Mod Daezhuin (sp?) is pretty active on that subreddit and didn't post there confirming/denying it so IDK.

 

It's possible that few staff outside of those responsible for designing/monetizing it know for sure, so he may not be able to confirm. On the other hand, it would arguably be a large update in terms of impact, so there might be general knowledge among them that hasn't been confirmed with us yet, for whatever reason. The process sounds like it's in the preliminary stages, so that may be why they're hesitant to publicly confirm. They're *attempting* to design suitable dicing alternatives, but it's not a guarantee that they'll be successful with the impact they'd want it to have (curbing inflation etc.). That would explain the vagueness in the details released thus far.

[Donnie]

scamming kids contributes the economy. Because they go back to mining ores or hunting dragons again to make up the lost money

.... or from buying GP, or scamming other people, or botting themeselves. Honestly, there is a very small portion of income from people who lost gambles and decide to make it back in an honest way.

 

That is a very optimistic way to think, but I believe it's a bit blind. Mining ore and killing dragons for money is a thing of the far past.

 

Okay they buy gold off someone that did hunt dragons or mine ores. Your point?

[Platinum_Myr]

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scamming kids contributes the economy. Because they go back to mining ores or hunting dragons again to make up the lost money

.... or from buying GP, or scamming other people, or botting themeselves. Honestly, there is a very small portion of income from people who lost gambles and decide to make it back in an honest way.

 

That is a very optimistic way to think, but I believe it's a bit blind. Mining ore and killing dragons for money is a thing of the far past.

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Okay they buy gold off someone that did hunt dragons or mine ores. Your point?

 

That we don't want an economy based around bots? You know they buy gold off "someone" means they buy gold from bots.

[Logdotzip]

I'm not allowed to give you my sources, but I have it on very good authority that it's either a) fake, or b) they don't want people knowing.

 

I don't recall the last time any Jmod called his fellow coworkers "admins", referring to his friend's list.

 

 

I've posted on these forums multiple times on controversial subjects (I announced about the Wild/Free Trade returning a couple weeks before the official announcement [and was subsequently laughed at and told I was full of shit (Hence the custom title I snagged out of it all off an Admin who bet me I was wrong)]). I am not saying that means you should take everything I say as truth, but I have a handful people who tell me tidbits of info as I need it / request it / am told. It's not like I can find out anything I want though.

 

So take my "It's fake" statement as you will, because I have no way of backing it up, I suppose.

[RU_Insane]

Fair enough, I suppose, regards your sources. Now that some time has passed, I'm leaning toward it being a possible fake, but in my view there's no surefire way to confirm, in light of the fact I don't have access to the same authoritative sources that you do. Even so, I'm keeping it open as a possibility, if only for the fact neither of us can back up our sources 100%.

 

I don't recall the last time any Jmod called his fellow coworkers "admins", referring to his friend's list.

 

I don't think it's strange (not to speak of its authenticity). He's qualifying who can have access to his friends list on a hierarchal level. Those would be admins. He's talking to regular players, either term conveys the same message. "Co-workers" would be too familiar considering who he's speaking to. I think it's a semantic point that doesn't suggest fraud one way or the other.

[Logdotzip]

I would just assume he would use "Jmod" over admin, but yeah, that's neither here nor there

[RU_Insane]

JMods is preferable to 'admin', for sure. It's ... not a casual usage, but also not really out of the ordinary.

[Blutters]

If they cared to stop it, they'd just make it against the rules. I seriously doubt most of the random, two-bit dicers that hang about the GE corners on any given world would stick around if they could be reported for it, even if said reports were as ineffective as reporting for any other offense. And aren't those the ones that annoy most people, anyway? Obviously the higher-ends would still be around to cater to those willing to break the rules to get their fix, but they'd move somewhere out of the way where people who want nothing to do with it wouldn't have to see them, and the gambling "issue" would disappear too.

[Hedgehog]

If they cared to stop it, they'd just make it against the rules. I seriously doubt most of the random, two-bit dicers that hang about the GE corners on any given world would stick around if they could be reported for it, even if said reports were as ineffective as reporting for any other offense. And aren't those the ones that annoy most people, anyway? Obviously the higher-ends would still be around to cater to those willing to break the rules to get their fix, but they'd move somewhere out of the way where people who want nothing to do with it wouldn't have to see them, and the gambling "issue" would disappear too.

Even if it doesn't scare them away, pmods could still mute them when they go to the GE.

 

Or pmods could solicit bribes from dicers and make a ton of money.

 

Either is better than the current situation imo.

[stonewall337]

Runescape gold isn't a tangible good, so gambling laws wouldn't apply. If they banned leading gambling RWT'rs only to introduce RWT through their own gambling system I'll laugh.

Remember "We aren't selling xp because the SoF is random"? That could just as easily apply to a new gambling system and selling gold.

 

Umm ya technically RS gold is intangible, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

[Sir_Squab]

Runescape gold isn't a tangible good, so gambling laws wouldn't apply. If they banned leading gambling RWT'rs only to introduce RWT through their own gambling system I'll laugh.

Remember "We aren't selling xp because the SoF is random"? That could just as easily apply to a new gambling system and selling gold.

 

Umm ya technically RS gold is intangible, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

What, exactly, is your point?

[Kimberly]

Runescape gold isn't a tangible good, so gambling laws wouldn't apply. If they banned leading gambling RWT'rs only to introduce RWT through their own gambling system I'll laugh.

Remember "We aren't selling xp because the SoF is random"? That could just as easily apply to a new gambling system and selling gold.

 

Umm ya technically RS gold is intangible, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

What, exactly, is your point?

 

That the GP gained has worth according to a handful of court rulings and it might truly be stopping them from doing something like this because of gambling law conflicts.

[Ren]

Runescape gold isn't a tangible good, so gambling laws wouldn't apply. If they banned leading gambling RWT'rs only to introduce RWT through their own gambling system I'll laugh.

Remember "We aren't selling xp because the SoF is random"? That could just as easily apply to a new gambling system and selling gold.

 

Umm ya technically RS gold is intangible, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

What, exactly, is your point?

 

That the GP gained has worth according to a handful of court rulings and it might truly be stopping them from doing something like this because of gambling law conflicts.

Think I posted on this thread before, but I'm pretty sure Jagex can get away with it because they're not the ones trying to sell gp itself. They're also trying to kill off RWT and that could be convincing enough to be able to start some form of 'casino' in Runescape.

 

Edit: What about online poker? Compare this to that.

[Kimberly]

No need to start a debate when there wasn't one. I was just trying to explain what he meant.

[stonewall337]

Runescape gold isn't a tangible good, so gambling laws wouldn't apply. If they banned leading gambling RWT'rs only to introduce RWT through their own gambling system I'll laugh.

Remember "We aren't selling xp because the SoF is random"? That could just as easily apply to a new gambling system and selling gold.

 

Umm ya technically RS gold is intangible, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

What, exactly, is your point?

 

That the GP gained has worth according to a handful of court rulings and it might truly be stopping them from doing something like this because of gambling law conflicts.

 

Pretty much this. Gold has a legal "worth" to it because it can be bought or sold, and has a real world value to it, and thus, along with other reasons, it can be stolen, which (the argument is being made, and has been made) that gold is actually property. The much more vehement debate is to whom that property belongs (but that is another issue.)

[Heimsventus]

I'm surprised Jagex doesn't introduce another gambling feature to try to capitalize on it and make more money (other than sof). Any kind of gambling mechanism that requires people to pay real money is always a profit because you can rely on addictive personality people with lack of self of control to spend out of control. Jagex should just create in game "casinos" which do dice, flower game, seal, horse game etc all requiring in game payment in order to pour more money into jagex.

[Donnie]

Runescape gold isn't a tangible good, so gambling laws wouldn't apply. If they banned leading gambling RWT'rs only to introduce RWT through their own gambling system I'll laugh.

Remember "We aren't selling xp because the SoF is random"? That could just as easily apply to a new gambling system and selling gold.

 

Umm ya technically RS gold is intangible, but that doesn't mean it has no value.

What, exactly, is your point?

 

bitcoins

[Kimberly]

 

So I don't know what it will mean for long term gambling but this could either play into gambling alternatives or it's another hotfix solution like "Just say neigh!"

[RU_Insane]

 

So I don't know what it will mean for long term gambling but this could either play into gambling alternatives or it's another hotfix solution like "Just say neigh!"

 

Heh. Given Jagex's track record so far, I'm inclined to think it's the latter. :P But I hope it's the former.

[Logdotzip]

At this point it's too late to remove gambling, it's moved offsite. Let the gamblers have world 2, because it's not going away any time soon. They need to move on from this focus

[Stev]

 

So I don't know what it will mean for long term gambling but this could either play into gambling alternatives or it's another hotfix solution like "Just say neigh!"

 

Heh. Given Jagex's track record so far, I'm inclined to think it's the latter. :P But I hope it's the former.

Most likely a way to chose your color. That'd be the smart thing anyways but RU_Insane hit the nail on the head.

[RU_Insane]

 

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So I don't know what it will mean for long term gambling but this could either play into gambling alternatives or it's another hotfix solution like "Just say neigh!"

 

Heh. Given Jagex's track record so far, I'm inclined to think it's the latter. But I hope it's the former.

Most likely a way to chose your color. That'd be the smart thing anyways but RU_Insane hit the nail on the head.

 

That's brilliant. So simple, yet effective. :D

[vmser]

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So I don't know what it will mean for long term gambling but this could either play into gambling alternatives or it's another hotfix solution like "Just say neigh!"

 

Heh. Given Jagex's track record so far, I'm inclined to think it's the latter. But I hope it's the former.

Most likely a way to chose your color. That'd be the smart thing anyways but RU_Insane hit the nail on the head.

 

That's brilliant. So simple, yet effective.

 

On the first few days however the junkload of people that don't check for the contents of updates will get scammed massively.