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D. V. Devnull

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Hi all... back on Sept. 24, 2012, 2 PM or a little earlier in the afternoon, I find myself having trouble both with launching RuneScape, as well as staying awake. I barely get in-game after 2 crashes while trying to log-in at Karamja's Musa Point Fishing Spot, having finally had to switch to software mode on the third attempt, and here's Jagex's excerpt from the chat log (including duplicate lines caused by lag) from me, my friends chat, and so forth...

 

[spoiler=Chat log copy from Jagex inside, with their headers... click to view...]Offence Information

 

Offence: Website Advertising Major

Type: Mute

Offence Date: 24-Sep-2012

Offence Expiry: 24-Sep-2013

Game: RuneScape

Offence Evidence

 

Evidence Type: Abuse Report

D V Devnull : [clan] Here goes me trying again... Wish me luck.

D V Devnull : [clan] <*hops to w35*>

D V Devnull : [clan] Damn... Two crashes.

D V Devnull : [clan] Trying this in software mode now.

D V Devnull : [clan] That time worked. Jagex blew it in Karamja's Musa Point zone.

D V Devnull : [clan] I can't load in Directx Mode there.

D V Devnull : [clan] Attempting to switch back to hardware rendering.

D V Devnull : [clan] Attempting to switch back to hardware rendering.

D V Devnull : [clan] Okay... There we go.

D V Devnull : [clan] Okay... There we go.

D V Devnull : [clan] Weird... Why can I clearly see Rimmington's Buildings from here?

D V Devnull : [clan] Ruto, you're apparently not alone. =s

D V Devnull : [clan] Ruto, you're apparently not alone. =s

************ : [clan] Y A N A, ruto... : P

D V Devnull : [clan] Lhikan, you really had to pull out the Doctor Who reference? =\

************ : [clan] Yes > : D

************ : [clan] I am Bad Wolf afterall...

D V Devnull : [clan] Ergh... =#

D V Devnull : [clan] *facedesk*

D V Devnull : [clan] Yeah, Runn... We're talking about the original f2p zone fishing dock.

D V Devnull : [clan] Karamja Island @ Musa Point West

D V Devnull : [clan] Yeah... That really shouldn't be possible.

D V Devnull : [clan] This is supposed to be an island, after all.

************ : [clan] Aye, land!

D V Devnull : [clan] Well done. =)

D V Devnull : [clan] So... Anyone else here like the Youtube user known as 'Fpsrussia'?

D V Devnull : [clan] So... Anyone else here like the Youtube user known as 'Fpsrussia'?

 

 

Now, just for starters, I never typed the duplicate lines, and they're a very clear result of lag. Second, do you see any advertising? I don't! All I was trying to do at the time was to simply ask a mere question, and possibly spark a discussion. No discussion sparked and I let it go. As an unfortunate third however, apparently someone decided right then to be a "wanna-be mod", and fired a report at my expense! I've been muted for 3 days due to it, starting late afternoon yesterday when my family decided to make it impossible to remain logged in-game! I wouldn't be at all surprised that Jagex kicked me off to the lobby those couple hours after when I was likely W.B.M.'d to apply the mute! Fourth, people aren't supposed to be trying to be nasty to each other in the Friends Chat (strangely marked with 'clan' markers, which it shouldn't be) that I happened to be in at the time. So I've been victimized by some jerk, my ability to help others taken away by loss of my voice, and I'm one of those people known for having a major hate of bots/macros... BTW, I know some of you are wondering which Friends Chat it is. I can't name that chat's name due to their chat rules, sorry. Oh, and fifth, as far as I currently know, discussion of other YouTube users than Jagex themselves is supposed to be allowed, just as long as it doesn't go over into advertising, and advertising is exactly what I happened to be avoiding. :geek:

 

So, I leave it to you, my fellow forum members... Feel free to discuss and/or join the rant with me. If the offense appeal I've sent in doesn't go through, and the offense entry and mute reversed, then I'm already 99.999999% likely to leave RuneScape/FunOrb forever, which will likely result in my leaving the Tip.It Community as well. I've been with RuneScape (and the addition of FunOrb at its' point) for 7 years and then some now, always managing to stay clear of any infraction what-so-ever, and past things like this have never caused me an offense/mute. So to find this happening to me signals that Jagex is either slipping in terms of Customer Support, or that they're getting rather draconian about things once more. After as many temporary quits as I've had years with Jagex's games, this last piece of junk will be the breaking straw. I'm at the point where, as far as I'm concerned, Jagex has broken the lock on this prison of desire I've felt, and I'll be forced to hard-sever my ties with what buddies I've had in regard to RuneScape/FunOrb without much notice to anyone. :(

 

~Mr. D. V. "Is this going to be my final end? We'll know soon....." Devnull

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It's a three day mute.

Obvious, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place, and that's what I'm getting at! :huh:

 

Right now, I should have been online to RuneScape, watching for someone I had met in-game for team dungeoneering. I can't even tell them what's happened. This is causing what for me is an unbearable amount of damage, and there's literally nothing I can do about it at the moment. :angry:

 

~D. V. "How would you like it if Jagex caused you this kind of trouble with your friends?" Devnull

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It's also a mute that you can probably get removed entirely from a simple appeal as it's obviously bogus and most probably an accidental automatic mute triggered by '...' and 'youtube' in the same line or an overzealous report faced with a skim-reading end of shift customer support staff who saw youtube and just thought it was an advert (tbf the last line does read an awful lot like what some adbots start out with).

 

I don't see the big drama at all, mistakes happen. That's life.

 

Also doesn't the evidence interface stuff have spam all over it saying this is private you ARE NOT allowed to share it with others or we will like stab you and stuff? Ergo bad idea to copy and paste the evidence.

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<<<snip>>>

 

Also doesn't the evidence interface stuff have spam all over it saying this is private you ARE NOT allowed to share it with others or we will like stab you and stuff? Ergo bad idea to copy and paste the evidence.

Eh... I don't remember something like that being at the bottom of that pane, and I've double-checked. :?

 

~D. V. "Didn't seem to be there..." Devnull

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You got it because you talked about FPSRussia. People tend to forget that telling people how to directly get to certain videos/users on youtube is actually against the rules.

 

But I think what you can take away from this is: the people in your clan are [wagon] and you should probably find a new clan.

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Wow someone really hates you :/

 

You see it every so often that people mention rsmv youtube makers etc.

 

But it could come down to the same stupid category of why you can't say "zybez" in rs despite being a fansite and not being able to compromise

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Wow that's re-tardis. They must of got toast crumbs all over the banning server. It that happened to me I might ragethrow my computer into a pond. But I think you should choose the lesser of two weevils and just give it some time. /shot

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The friends chat you were in attracts those sorts of people. Some people report to help the game from serious issues, but others just report in the belief that this will help them get modship. The more they report, the closer they feel they get so they look for any little reason to do so. I can tell the friends chat from a few of the names you mentioned in that chat log, and having been a general in the chat for a short time it doesn't surprise me too much that it happened. Hopefully your appeal will be successful though, I'd think it would be.

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Regarding that appeal, everyone... I have the feeling I'm going to have to hope for a second chance. When I typed it, I was running a bit on hasty instinct because I typed it (while freaked out, partly from the message and partly from my family bothering me at a bad moment) just shortly after finding out, and here's what came of that...

 

[spoiler=Copy of the Offense Appeal that I typed... I have the feeling it isn't that great... Click to view anyway...]To my knowledge, those of you at Jagex lifted the block on speaking about YouTube and users on it other than yourselves. Further, there are duplicate chat lines displayed that were never actually typed or sent, and are likely the result of awful lag that I'm unable to avoid due to the browser/java versions I've been forced into upgrading to on this old computer. Please re-review this mistaken offence data, remove the offence from my account, and un-mute me?

 

If I have to, I'll be a bit less likely to pop sudden offside chat topics in the future, but I would hope the RuneScape Rules aren't slipping back into a draconian form? If they are, let me know in my message center.

 

 

...and I'm kind of wishing right now that I had an "Edit" button for it. :wall:

 

~D. V. "Not feeling great about it..." Devnull

 

 

 

(p.s.: Since I'm unable to do so myself, can anyone find out who my accuser is? I really hate getting misinterpreted without much any way to defend myself.)

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I think your appeal is fine. If a real person read it, they would probably unmute you. Your mute will probably end before it gets processed though. I doubt real people even read appeals.

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We've all been muted at some point for something ridiculous because of a WBM. I was muted once for 7 days for telling people to "look on you tube" when Kingduffy was fishing shortly after getting 99 summoning and people were pestering him to do emote even though he wasnt even wearing the cape.

 

Your appeal will probably be accepted and it will be crossed out (but never completely removed) of your account but not before then end of the three days mute period. Baffler hit it right on the nose there. It might not have been a person maliciously trying to get you black marks but instead they simply belived that by reporting what you said they get a step closer to becoming a pmod... the truth is they don't and when your appeal is accepted it will only hinder their chances.

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Find a new clan, it's obvious the cc you're in is full of retarded wbm's :-|

 

Wait but how the hell do you double type so many lines?

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That sucks D.V.. The suggestion of finding a new chat to hang out in might be a good one. It seems like someone in there is only looking to become a mod.

 

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I personally never got muted. I'm always aware of what I say and how it will be interpreted and I make sure to never give pricks any chance to get a successful report in. Ever since the website rule, which I think was later modified to be less drastic, I don't mention websites anymore. Eg. I won't say google it, I'll say use a search engine. I won't say check rswiki, I'll say check a fansite. I don't say sarcastic remarks because I know some prick will report it and the monkey who takes care of bans will take the phrase literally. And so on. It's a tad annoying, but it's gotten me through it all unscathed.

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I have a similar attitude towards chats, although since they relaxed the website rules to include approved fansites I will direct people directly to Tip.It.

 

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This is the best (most ridiculous) mute I ever had though...

 

Offensive/Inappropriate Language Minor (mute)

Mercifull : u need sky+

************ : tenso...

************ : brasil>portugal

************ : brasil>all

************ : new zaland?wtf?! auhauhaa

************ : /brasil>all

************ : salveeee!!

************ : xurupitaaa owns all

************ : xurupita!!!!!!

Mercifull : thats really odd are you sure?

Mercifull : americans love pussing z in where there is normally an 's'

Mercifull : putting*

Mercifull : damn censor

 

Despite a person spelling Brazil as Brasil, thats not what the comment was about. The original comment wasnt included in the report. But WHY?!!!! Was it the "pussing"? Is it because it looks a little bit like "[kitty]"? Who knows lol.

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  • 3 months later...

I have been muted for an one hour ones lol...

 

Was mining at living rocks.. and some1 randomly asked if we wanted some coffee or tea? I asked him if he knew the difference between a teabag and a used tampon. He replyd with sorry dutch but i dont know. Then i said, in that case i prefer coffee. That ended up in a mute.. but was worth it lol

 

One hour later, the mute was removed lol

 

Btw, the mute that i saw from mercifull and the ones you gaved aren't strong. Even while you talked about a user on youtube, you didn't send any1 to it.. You only asked for people opinion about it.. That some1 reports you for that, is simply retarded

 

 

 

Can you imagine that you report me for that... He said used tampon!!! Now i totally offended! Lets nail him to the ground lol... I kind a feel sorry for that person that reported me for it.. Or the Pmod that muted me for it. if you feel attacked by a very regular dutch word joke then you better stay of this country. Your ears wont survive

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