Sylpheed Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I swear they backtrack and U-turn on previous policies more than politicians. They backtracked to do something that would help more than hurt people for once. It is preposterous how people will complain over anything, even something meant to be beneficial. You don't have to buy spins or solomon crap for this. Even f2p gets a boost. What the hell people? Stop being mad because you used all your charms or sold/used all you raw materials or can't play this weekend. I did all 3 of those, deal with it. Yeah, cool man, quoting out of context is always a good thing to do. Make sure you keep doing it! I couldn't give a rats ass if everyone in the game got 99 Summoning over the weekend, honestly, it literally has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game. If you go back and read my post instead of raging all over the place, I said I take issue with Jagex's business plans, morals and ethics. It makes no difference to me if people can train a skill faster than normal, it does make a difference when Jagex constantly say one thing and then do the exact opposite of what they said. Do as I say and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thus Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I swear they backtrack and U-turn on previous policies more than politicians. They backtracked to do something that would help more than hurt people for once. It is preposterous how people will complain over anything, even something meant to be beneficial. You don't have to buy spins or solomon crap for this. Even f2p gets a boost. What the hell people? Stop being mad because you used all your charms or sold/used all you raw materials or can't play this weekend. I did all 3 of those, deal with it. Yeah, cool man, quoting out of context is always a good thing to do. Make sure you keep doing it! I couldn't give a rats ass if everyone in the game got 99 Summoning over the weekend, honestly, it literally has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game. If you go back and read my post instead of raging all over the place, I said I take issue with Jagex's business plans, morals and ethics. It makes no difference to me if people can train a skill faster than normal, it does make a difference when Jagex constantly say one thing and then do the exact opposite of what they said. Do as I say and all that. That last line was meant for anyone in general. The lines above it still stand. They went back on a few things in the past, but this is only meant to benefit as many people as possible. Complaining about their business ethics because of this update is just misplaced anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylpheed Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I swear they backtrack and U-turn on previous policies more than politicians. They backtracked to do something that would help more than hurt people for once. It is preposterous how people will complain over anything, even something meant to be beneficial. You don't have to buy spins or solomon crap for this. Even f2p gets a boost. What the hell people? Stop being mad because you used all your charms or sold/used all you raw materials or can't play this weekend. I did all 3 of those, deal with it. Yeah, cool man, quoting out of context is always a good thing to do. Make sure you keep doing it! I couldn't give a rats ass if everyone in the game got 99 Summoning over the weekend, honestly, it literally has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game. If you go back and read my post instead of raging all over the place, I said I take issue with Jagex's business plans, morals and ethics. It makes no difference to me if people can train a skill faster than normal, it does make a difference when Jagex constantly say one thing and then do the exact opposite of what they said. Do as I say and all that. That last line was meant for anyone in general. The lines above it still stand. They went back on a few things in the past, but this is only meant to benefit as many people as possible. Complaining about their business ethics because of this update is just misplaced anger. It's not anger, it's discontent. Whether it is beneficial to players or not is irrelevant to the issue I have with them. You can't trust a company that so willingly changes it's stance on such controversial decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64jive Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I swear they backtrack and U-turn on previous policies more than politicians. They backtracked to do something that would help more than hurt people for once. It is preposterous how people will complain over anything, even something meant to be beneficial. You don't have to buy spins or solomon crap for this. Even f2p gets a boost. What the hell people? Stop being mad because you used all your charms or sold/used all you raw materials or can't play this weekend. I did all 3 of those, deal with it. Yeah, cool man, quoting out of context is always a good thing to do. Make sure you keep doing it! I couldn't give a rats ass if everyone in the game got 99 Summoning over the weekend, honestly, it literally has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game. If you go back and read my post instead of raging all over the place, I said I take issue with Jagex's business plans, morals and ethics. It makes no difference to me if people can train a skill faster than normal, it does make a difference when Jagex constantly say one thing and then do the exact opposite of what they said. Do as I say and all that. That last line was meant for anyone in general. The lines above it still stand. They went back on a few things in the past, but this is only meant to benefit as many people as possible. Complaining about their business ethics because of this update is just misplaced anger. It's not anger, it's discontent. Whether it is beneficial to players or not is irrelevant to the issue I have with them. You can't trust a company that so willingly changes it's stance on such controversial decisions. Then I guess that means you can't really trust any company? Things change and people adapt to that change. Don't get me wrong, I understand your frustration, but at the same time this isn't a "huge" deal. Runescape is a game owned by Jagex and they ultimately make all the rules to that game. If you don't like it, then why continue to play? For example, I used to love the halo games. I would probably play at least 1 hour on average 5 days a week, however I started disliking the game with Halo 3. I haven't probably played that game since 2009. I'll try out Halo 4 and if I enjoy it, I will play it. Jagex's goal is to get as many paying members as possible. They achieve this goal by creating content that draws in players. Bonus XP weekends draw in players. I'm sure they constantly struggle with making decisions based on what will keep people playing the game, and what will draw in new players. I am probably the farthest thing from a Jagex fan boy, however I'm not going to get all butt hurt when they make large changes to the game. Which kind of segways into the next topic, which is people getting butt hurt over microtransactions. I have no idea who came up with this business model, but it was apparent when Andrew Gower was at the helm, he was not a fan of it. He sold out, however, and runescape hasn't been the same game since. You can either accept that fact and continue playing, or quit. However, whining about it will not change the direction. The fact of the matter is that microtransactions bring in fast money for very little effort, and as a business, why would you not take advantage of that? Sorry if I rambled. Thanks to work, I've been up way to many hours and it's too late for me to get any sleep. My final remark is this. Claiming Jagex has bad ethics, morals, and business plan is a little overboard. Maybe you can elaborate one what exactly Jagex is doing that crosses moral boundaries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylpheed Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I swear they backtrack and U-turn on previous policies more than politicians. They backtracked to do something that would help more than hurt people for once. It is preposterous how people will complain over anything, even something meant to be beneficial. You don't have to buy spins or solomon crap for this. Even f2p gets a boost. What the hell people? Stop being mad because you used all your charms or sold/used all you raw materials or can't play this weekend. I did all 3 of those, deal with it. Yeah, cool man, quoting out of context is always a good thing to do. Make sure you keep doing it! I couldn't give a rats ass if everyone in the game got 99 Summoning over the weekend, honestly, it literally has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game. If you go back and read my post instead of raging all over the place, I said I take issue with Jagex's business plans, morals and ethics. It makes no difference to me if people can train a skill faster than normal, it does make a difference when Jagex constantly say one thing and then do the exact opposite of what they said. Do as I say and all that. That last line was meant for anyone in general. The lines above it still stand. They went back on a few things in the past, but this is only meant to benefit as many people as possible. Complaining about their business ethics because of this update is just misplaced anger. It's not anger, it's discontent. Whether it is beneficial to players or not is irrelevant to the issue I have with them. You can't trust a company that so willingly changes it's stance on such controversial decisions. Then I guess that means you can't really trust any company? Things change and people adapt to that change. Don't get me wrong, I understand your frustration, but at the same time this isn't a "huge" deal. Runescape is a game owned by Jagex and they ultimately make all the rules to that game. If you don't like it, then why continue to play? For example, I used to love the halo games. I would probably play at least 1 hour on average 5 days a week, however I started disliking the game with Halo 3. I haven't probably played that game since 2009. I'll try out Halo 4 and if I enjoy it, I will play it. Jagex's goal is to get as many paying members as possible. They achieve this goal by creating content that draws in players. Bonus XP weekends draw in players. I'm sure they constantly struggle with making decisions based on what will keep people playing the game, and what will draw in new players. I am probably the farthest thing from a Jagex fan boy, however I'm not going to get all butt hurt when they make large changes to the game. Which kind of segways into the next topic, which is people getting butt hurt over microtransactions. I have no idea who came up with this business model, but it was apparent when Andrew Gower was at the helm, he was not a fan of it. He sold out, however, and runescape hasn't been the same game since. You can either accept that fact and continue playing, or quit. However, whining about it will not change the direction. The fact of the matter is that microtransactions bring in fast money for very little effort, and as a business, why would you not take advantage of that? Sorry if I rambled. Thanks to work, I've been up way to many hours and it's too late for me to get any sleep. My final remark is this. Claiming Jagex has bad ethics, morals, and business plan is a little overboard. Maybe you can elaborate one what exactly Jagex is doing that crosses moral boundaries. Okay...I don't know if you were replying to someone else or you just didn't read my post but either way, the latter half of your post was entirely irrelevant, you seem to be just going off on a rant. Anyway, the reason I still play RuneScape is because I enjoy it and find it fun. Yes I have some grievances with Jagex but I can look past them if it means I still get to enjoy the game I have continuously played for almost 10 years. I never said it was a huge deal, I said It was discontent at some of the choices they make, the blatant change in rules on RWT being one them. I have no qualms with companies changing policy, but if they are going to do so, they need to be open about it and tell their players why that particular change has occurred. Why you bought micro transactions up I literally have no idea, but if you want to know my views on them that bad then feel free to read this; http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?times=909 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64jive Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I swear they backtrack and U-turn on previous policies more than politicians. They backtracked to do something that would help more than hurt people for once. It is preposterous how people will complain over anything, even something meant to be beneficial. You don't have to buy spins or solomon crap for this. Even f2p gets a boost. What the hell people? Stop being mad because you used all your charms or sold/used all you raw materials or can't play this weekend. I did all 3 of those, deal with it. Yeah, cool man, quoting out of context is always a good thing to do. Make sure you keep doing it! I couldn't give a rats ass if everyone in the game got 99 Summoning over the weekend, honestly, it literally has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game. If you go back and read my post instead of raging all over the place, I said I take issue with Jagex's business plans, morals and ethics. It makes no difference to me if people can train a skill faster than normal, it does make a difference when Jagex constantly say one thing and then do the exact opposite of what they said. Do as I say and all that. That last line was meant for anyone in general. The lines above it still stand. They went back on a few things in the past, but this is only meant to benefit as many people as possible. Complaining about their business ethics because of this update is just misplaced anger. It's not anger, it's discontent. Whether it is beneficial to players or not is irrelevant to the issue I have with them. You can't trust a company that so willingly changes it's stance on such controversial decisions. Then I guess that means you can't really trust any company? Things change and people adapt to that change. Don't get me wrong, I understand your frustration, but at the same time this isn't a "huge" deal. Runescape is a game owned by Jagex and they ultimately make all the rules to that game. If you don't like it, then why continue to play? For example, I used to love the halo games. I would probably play at least 1 hour on average 5 days a week, however I started disliking the game with Halo 3. I haven't probably played that game since 2009. I'll try out Halo 4 and if I enjoy it, I will play it. Jagex's goal is to get as many paying members as possible. They achieve this goal by creating content that draws in players. Bonus XP weekends draw in players. I'm sure they constantly struggle with making decisions based on what will keep people playing the game, and what will draw in new players. I am probably the farthest thing from a Jagex fan boy, however I'm not going to get all butt hurt when they make large changes to the game. Which kind of segways into the next topic, which is people getting butt hurt over microtransactions. I have no idea who came up with this business model, but it was apparent when Andrew Gower was at the helm, he was not a fan of it. He sold out, however, and runescape hasn't been the same game since. You can either accept that fact and continue playing, or quit. However, whining about it will not change the direction. The fact of the matter is that microtransactions bring in fast money for very little effort, and as a business, why would you not take advantage of that? Sorry if I rambled. Thanks to work, I've been up way to many hours and it's too late for me to get any sleep. My final remark is this. Claiming Jagex has bad ethics, morals, and business plan is a little overboard. Maybe you can elaborate one what exactly Jagex is doing that crosses moral boundaries. Okay...I don't know if you were replying to someone else or you just didn't read my post but either way, the latter half of your post was entirely irrelevant, you seem to be just going off on a rant. Anyway, the reason I still play RuneScape is because I enjoy it and find it fun. Yes I have some grievances with Jagex but I can look past them if it means I still get to enjoy the game I have continuously played for almost 10 years. I never said it was a huge deal, I said It was discontent at some of the choices they make, the blatant change in rules on RWT being one them. I have no qualms with companies changing policy, but if they are going to do so, they need to be open about it and tell their players why that particular change has occurred. Why you bought micro transactions up I literally have no idea, but if you want to know my views on them that bad then feel free to read this; http://www.tip.it/ru...x.php?times=909 I read your article and it was very well written. My post gravitated towards microtransactions due to the fact that over time, I have began to associate all runescape rants on Jagex's morals and ethics with microtransactions. This is likely not your fault, and for that I apologize. Additionally, microtransactions is obviously one of the points you were trying to make when referring to Jagex's tendency to renege on stances it has traditionally held. 1. Andrew Gower stated he didn't want wealthy individuals to have an in-game advantage2. Jagex's unorthodox gesture of making some sort of claim in terms of discontinuing bonus xp weekends while later announcing none other than an October bonus xp weekend. But the main point I was trying to make was the fact that you seem to have a pretty strong opinion on the matter, even claiming Jagex to be of poor business morals and ethics. Even as to questioning Jagex introducing multiple methods in which their customers can throw money at them. Blows my mind as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Seems like one of the points everyone is missing is that this Double Experience weekend is to offer players a chance to boost their Combat stats higher for the Evolution of Combat, while offering something for those who don't need/want to. [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Seems like one of the points everyone is missing is that this Double Experience weekend is to offer players a chance to boost their Combat stats higher for the Evolution of Combat, while offering something for those who don't need/want to. Like enough people won't be "max combat" as it is when the EoC comes out... I think they want more members. :P ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Seems like one of the points everyone is missing is that this Double Experience weekend is to offer players a chance to boost their Combat stats higher for the Evolution of Combat, while offering something for those who don't need/want to. Like enough people won't be "max combat" as it is when the EoC comes out... I think they want more members. :P Whether or not its the true reason, it is the reason they gave. [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Like enough people won't be "max combat" as it is when the EoC comes out...They might be "max combat" but that doesn't mean that their stats will be very good. :twss: Doesn't make much sense for people to train up for EoC, since training will be so much faster after it comes out. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Doesn't make much sense for people to train up for EoC, since training will be so much faster after it comes out. We don't know that for sure yet. Also many people who want to max may not want to train combat in the new system (because they feel that it won't be afk, whatever reason) or they simply dislike the EoC, so want to do as much combat before as possible...? 1 Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 We don't know that for sure yet. Also many people who want to max may not want to train combat in the new system (because they feel that it won't be afk, whatever reason) or they simply dislike the EoC, so want to do as much combat before as possible...?Fair enough. My post was mostly a jab at how terrible skills like ranged and magic are when you train them the "normal" (read: dirt cheap) way :razz: . 1 I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yeah they've said xp rates in the beta are no where near balanced yet. They said they're aiming for at least the same xp rate as live RS, and not significantly over, in the livestream. 2m mage xp/hr and 400k melee xp/hr clearly doesn't fit that description. Fair enough. My post was mostly a jab at how terrible skills like ranged and magic are when you train them the "normal" (read: dirt cheap) way :razz: . Hopefully magic and ranged will be of similar effectiveness to melee post EoC, so you should be able to get a decent xp rate (100k-150k) just through normal combat/slayer without spending lots of cash on barraging/chinning. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeRambo Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Is there a countdown timer somewhere that shows when it's starting? I have a horrible time converting time. :?. "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." "An imperfect man can do great deeds, and a great man imperfect ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppe Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Is there a countdown timer somewhere that shows when it's starting? I have a horrible time converting time. :?. http://www.indecentcode.com/hs/index.php?id=Jeremy841 Here you go, its Indecentcodes' hiscores (with your hawt stats), the countdown timer is in the lower right hand corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeRambo Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Is there a countdown timer somewhere that shows when it's starting? I have a horrible time converting time. :?. http://www.indecentc...hp?id=Jeremy841 Here you go, its Indecentcodes' hiscores (with your hawt stats), the countdown timer is in the lower right hand corner.Thank you very much! Why can't the Runescape homepage have that? :P. Too bad it's starting so early in the morning for me.. -.-. "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." "An imperfect man can do great deeds, and a great man imperfect ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripsis Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 BTS#24 - Double XP Weekend Tips - 99 fletching | 99 thieving | 99 construction | 99 herblore | 99 smithing | 99 woodcutting - - 99 runecrafting - 99 prayer - 125 combat - 95 farming - - Blog - DeviantART - Book Reviews & Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 BTS#24 - Double XP Weekend Tips Imma wait till it also has uploaded the transcription =/ For me, being near deaf, this is very difficult to follow over video (of moderate quality). 1 Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 BTS#24 - Double XP Weekend Tips Imma wait till it also has uploaded the transcription =/ For me, being near deaf, this is very difficult to follow over video (of moderate quality). Let me know when the transcript comes out, i have the same problem as yourself. [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Wouldn't worry to much about it. Terrible video with nothing new in it. 1 Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 We get a tidbit about next week's bts, but the info provided is very simple tips for bxpw... Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ah, my bad. They mention that tears of guthix is getting rework and there will be a video next week. 1 Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gago Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Good luck with your goals over the weekend! I'll be attempting to get 120 dungeoneering if there will be enough active teams on world 114 ;) 2 "Happines only real when shared." [hide=Stats]----------------------------------------------------------------------------[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 so laggy i cant even... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leik Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 This is my experience of the weekend so far: 3 LIVERPOOL WILL WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE THIS SEASON. [01:24:34] CJ Hunnicutt: it takes skill to be that [bleep]ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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