Miss Lioness Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 When I went on the beta earlier today, I tried killing some blue dragons with melee (sword and shield) and did awfully. I got frustrated and realized that blue dragons were weak to range, thus resistant to melee. I went to try killing some hellhounds, which are weak to magic, thus neutral to melee. I found myself performing a lot better even though the hellhounds were about 20 levels higher than the blue dragons. The combat triangle is a LOT more pronounced in the Evolution of Combat, and I really love it. Melee currently dominates almost everything in the game. Now that range and magic are worth using, I feel like my options have tripled! Add on top of that the newly balanced damage types (crush, arrows, fire etc.) and the new wielding styles (shield, twohand, dual wield) and you get so many more ways to play. I can't wait to actually have a good reason to train my ranged level, as well as make use of my under-appreciated 99 magic! The latter is where I have problems with. Why can't we use our preferred style of X skill. Like if I want to range why does it have to be specifically say throwaxes to be the weakest while I want to shoot with bolts? Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The latter is where I have problems with. Why can't we use our preferred style of X skill. Like if I want to range why does it have to be specifically say throwaxes to be the weakest while I want to shoot with bolts? That's not as pronounced. You can still use bolts and they should work ok. Thrown stuff should be the most powerful though. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 it's the same reason why small to medium caliber bullets arent effective on kevlar, but a knife will go right through it as it is now easier to train any particular combat skill on a target that is weak against it, being required to pick a particular strategy is not as heinous a requirement as it was back when our choices on the matter were limited (crush weapons below chaotic maul/goliaths are pretty much a joke right now) and pointless when anything taken to the extreme worked regardless of the context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 it's the same reason why small to medium caliber bullets arent effective on kevlar, but a knife will go right through it as it is now easier to train any particular combat skill on a target that is weak against it, being required to pick a particular strategy is not as heinous a requirement as it was back when our choices on the matter were limited and pointless when anything taken to the extreme worked regardless of the contextWhich means that particular areas of skilling will recieve more attention when training. People will now have more reason to smith those javelins and thrown axes. Mind you they might be more inclined to use bolts all the time, but all options are much more viable than they ever were. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Which means that particular areas of skilling will recieve more attention when training. People will now have more reason to smith those javelins and thrown axes. Mind you they might be more inclined to use bolts all the time, but all options are much more viable than they ever were.Except that there are only two thrown weapons above level 50 (dragon, blisterwood), so you'd probably be better off bringing your level 70 or 80 bow/crossbow either way. :razz: I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Seems like alot of things got boosted, according to the news section. Seems like we're gonna be some goddamn terminators all of us at this rate. 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoli Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Which means that particular areas of skilling will recieve more attention when training. People will now have more reason to smith those javelins and thrown axes. Mind you they might be more inclined to use bolts all the time, but all options are much more viable than they ever were.Except that there are only two thrown weapons above level 50 (dragon, blisterwood), so you'd probably be better off bringing your level 70 or 80 bow/crossbow either way. :razz: There is one more, level 72 option: Sagaies. I've already stockpiled 5k of the, and i ight do more in the future, I really hope they make a offhand sagaie next, they are brutal. So far I have: Rapier for StabTorags Hammer or Goliaths if they keep it as a weaponWhip + EEE for slash Torags and Veracs CCB for boltsSagaies for ThrownCrystal bow for arrows Karils and Royal DHide Staff of light+ 200k of every elemental rune. Gano+Ahrim To get: Off Hand:RapierCLSCSBSagaies if they make themAhrim's book Main weapons:CLSMaulForge my Royal XbowArma Bstaff ArmourGet Kiln CapeGet Dung shieldsGet decent Gloves and Boots, stuck to infinity, snakeskin, bandos and culinaro 10Get arma BucklerGet a non-dg Magic shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Even sagaie don't seem to be worth using, just use a bow (seercull seems to be the most realistic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoli Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Why even use Seercrull whe Crystal bow exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Crystal bows are 5 ticks, darkbows are 6 ticks, and seerculls are 4 ticks, to the best of my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoli Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Yes, they have a fast RoF, but crystal bow is not only way more accurate, but also more powerfull than Seercrull with rune arrows. Again,I don't know why you would use it. Edited November 12, 2012 by Demoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Nevermind, crystal bows are better. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerendil Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 are zaryte bows now the best? i was under the impression swifts were :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 they said they were making dom gloves....gloves again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerendil Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (bleeping) sons of (bleep).... typical jagex, i didnt jump on the band wagon for zaryte buyout x.x...... in other news, is arcane better than farseer? is it worth having over farseer kite? sniped one on day of release for 66.5, debating selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equenox Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Farseer gives slightly better defence (+100) and life (+75) when compared to the arcane, but the arcane gets the 30% damage reduction. To be honest I don't think there's much between them... for general use you'll want the farseer, but arcane might be better in some boss situations. Equenox's Blog of Things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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