04-12-12 - The Brink of Extinction - Grandmaster Quest

[Cow]

Lol I suck at the new combat style (not to say I would have done any better before, though)

I've died three times on the third room in the tunnel.

 

I'll try with a steel titan later

 

[Tansuo]

It also was easy to not get mad at the fight because I didn't have to run back and loot my grave before jumping back in. I could restock food and prayer potions, repot and try again.

 

The absolute best aspect of this quest. You could do this at ANY point while chasing Ga'al-Xox. It cut down on hassle tremendously and cut out an enormous amount of tedium. They deserve some serious kudos for this.

 

This is the sort of thing they would over look in days gone by. Glad to see that maybe they're finally learning from their mistakes..

 

Lol I suck at the new combat style (not to say I would have done any better before, though)

I've died three times on the third room in the tunnel.

 

I'll try with a steel titan later

 

 

Familiars shouldn't technically work there, but if you manage it, go ahead!

Managed to get my yak to appear a few times, but couldn't access it. Reports of combat familiars working though, so gl

[Platinum_Myr]

If combat familiar working, (and with scrolls!) then that would be pretty insane since titan specs regularly hit for 4k dmg :)

[Kimberly]

Lol I suck at the new combat style (not to say I would have done any better before, though)

I've died three times on the third room in the tunnel.

 

I'll try with a steel titan later

 

 

Which one is the third room? Is that the one with the Yt-MejKot? If so, it won't heal itself if you safespot it. Probably a bug though.

[Demoli]

Thats thw wholemechanic of the Mejkots, they heal themselves when they are attacking you, so it's best to safe spot them. Been like that since the Jad release :razz:

[JeRambo]

You used to be able to outhit them all the time before though.. But that one kept healing itself the whole time. -.-.

Took me a while before I tried magic. Was stubbornly trying to melee it. :P.

[michel555555]

Thats thw wholemechanic of the Mejkots, they heal themselves when they are attacking you, so it's best to safe spot them. Been like that since the Jad release :razz:

You can melee them if you have dreads. For some reason they stop their healing ability. Not sure if that's a bug or if its their stun effect that blocks it, if so stun abilities might also work.

[Cow]

It seems to me that my titan would respawn if I entered a new room (from 3 to 4, not the entrance to 4) and would leave if I tried to call it. So it's limited.

[lcchs]

You used to be able to outhit them all the time before though.. But that one kept healing itself the whole time. -.-.

Took me a while before I tried magic. Was stubbornly trying to melee it. :P.

 

It took me many attempts until I killed it by accidentally safespotting it. When I was meleeing it, not only would it heal itself but also the 2 mage monsters. I coud not even kill them and ran out of food.

[aerendil]

there is a very easy lure safespot for the big melee thug, he doesnt heal if you kill him out of melee distance

[Estoc]

How come these quest bosses always have that air of "sporting fun" or "sparring" when it's me alone versus 17 enemies including the big bad of the quest? They want to "duel" me but pull such stunts as healing to full health and melting the whole floor.

[Alg]

How come these quest bosses always have that air of "sporting fun" or "sparring" when it's me alone versus 17 enemies including the big bad of the quest? They want to "duel" me but pull such stunts as healing to full health and melting the whole floor.

Be honest here, would it be challenging at all for you if they didn't? You're the kind of person that [bleep] slaps demon lords for a living, the least you could do is give them their fair chance.

[Estoc]

I'd rather him be like "Blast! You've foiled my plot once again and defeated my diabolical lava chamber! I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling Tz-haar and your stupid Ga'al."

[Alg]

They tried that with Sigmund, and we all know how that turned out.

 

Hint: It involved violence :twss:

[Freaky]

Still stuck... I hate it :c

[Alphanos]

How come these quest bosses always have that air of "sporting fun" or "sparring" when it's me alone versus 17 enemies including the big bad of the quest? They want to "duel" me but pull such stunts as healing to full health and melting the whole floor.

 

I do agree that it's silly he can summon minions while we cannot. However let's talk about unfair "stunts":

• We have vast arrays of enchanted armours and weapons imbued with ancient secrets lost to the simple folk of this age. However we don't pick just any old pile of artifacts filled with elder might, but a specific set designed, in combination, to maximize our effectiveness against TokHaar-Hok. Including the magic ring the TzHaar gave us which makes us extra-powerful at slaying TokHaar.
  
• We bring to the battle ancient ice magicks devised by otherworldly war-monsters which happen to be super-effective against lava creatures.
  
• We call upon direct divine favour to enhance our prowess in battle, as well as drinking copious amounts of performance-enhancing magical potions.
  
• Ha, so TokHaar-Hok wants to heal damage he has taken in battle? We'll stun him and block him from doing so, all the while carrying and consuming enough magical mutant fish to heal ourselves to full health 5 times over.
  
• If we should happen to lose this battle 10 times in a row, well, that's just a trial run and we'll give it another go. However if TokHaar-Hok loses even once, then obviously we are superior and he is forced to abandon his entire race's ambitions!
  

;)

[Estoc]

His race's ambitions are forfeit as his idea of honorable conduct is skulking around and messing with Tzhaar city's plumbing.

[firebird308]

Drat it people, stop saying funny things that I have to 'like'. I don't know what the limit on a single topic is and don't want to find out. XD

[Alg]

His race's ambitions are forfeit as his idea of honorable conduct is skulking around and messing with Tzhaar city's plumbing.

The worst part is how effective it all was.

[Estoc]

His race's ambitions are forfeit as his idea of honorable conduct is skulking around and messing with Tzhaar city's plumbing.

The worst part is how effective it all was.

 

However their true goal was far more sinister. They planned nothing less than establishing a front company in the market district of Tzhaar City with the aim of selling Heat Globes purchased for a fire sale price from the residents of Ghorrok fortress during the end of the God Wars. We would have had Tzhaar-hur working horrendous overtime only to spend all of their hard earned tokkul to heat their homes and warm their eggs, with the upper castes not faring much better.

 

 

Really though, why did Hok try to murder all of the Tzhaar?

 

[Saradomin_Mage]

His race's ambitions are forfeit as his idea of honorable conduct is skulking around and messing with Tzhaar city's plumbing.

The worst part is how effective it all was.

 

However their true goal was far more sinister. They planned nothing less than establishing a front company in the market district of Tzhaar City with the aim of selling Heat Globes purchased for a fire sale price from the residents of Ghorrok fortress during the end of the God Wars. We would have had Tzhaar-hur working horrendous overtime only to spend all of their hard earned tokkul to heat their homes and warm their eggs, with the upper castes not faring much better.

 

 

Really though, why did Hok try to murder all of the Tzhaar?

 

I thought Hok viewed the TzHaar as inferior/corrupt offshoots who refused to return to the Sacred Kiln, and as such decided that the best thing to do was to end their wayward race?

[Ruinous Edge]

His race's ambitions are forfeit as his idea of honorable conduct is skulking around and messing with Tzhaar city's plumbing.

The worst part is how effective it all was.

 

However their true goal was far more sinister. They planned nothing less than establishing a front company in the market district of Tzhaar City with the aim of selling Heat Globes purchased for a fire sale price from the residents of Ghorrok fortress during the end of the God Wars. We would have had Tzhaar-hur working horrendous overtime only to spend all of their hard earned tokkul to heat their homes and warm their eggs, with the upper castes not faring much better.

 

 

Really though, why did Hok try to murder all of the Tzhaar?

 

I thought Hok viewed the TzHaar as inferior/corrupt offshoots who refused to return to the Sacred Kiln, and as such decided that the best thing to do was to end their wayward race?

That sounds about right, that's what I got from the quest dialogue personally. Bottom line Hok viewed TzHaar as inferior and thus took the executive decision that all ThZaar's deserved to die.

[Alg]

That sounds about right, that's what I got from the quest dialogue personally. Bottom line Hok viewed TzHaar as inferior and thus took the executive decision that all ThZaar's deserved to die.

I thought their end goal was to force TzHaar to rejoin the TokHaar, by using their own champions to show them that their ways were wrong.

[Ruinous Edge]

That sounds about right, that's what I got from the quest dialogue personally. Bottom line Hok viewed TzHaar as inferior and thus took the executive decision that all ThZaar's deserved to die.

I thought their end goal was to force TzHaar to rejoin the TokHaar, by using their own champions to show them that their ways were wrong.

Well it seemed an ultimatum either rejoin with the TokHaar in the elder kiln or perish with no new eggs developing as they should have. Hence the reason TokHaar-Hok refused to fuse the champions tokkul with the remaining Ga'al. We only discovered the plot with the lava flow because of Ga'al-Xox's knowledge of the lava vents in the original kiln and TokHaar-Hok seemed pretty annoyed that Ga'al-Xox lead us to the vents, Hok was determined the Tzhaar would return to the kiln or face extinction.

[chenw]

That sounds about right, that's what I got from the quest dialogue personally. Bottom line Hok viewed TzHaar as inferior and thus took the executive decision that all ThZaar's deserved to die.

I thought their end goal was to force TzHaar to rejoin the TokHaar, by using their own champions to show them that their ways were wrong.

 

Hok might not have meant it literally, he could have meant that all the TzHaar would have given up hope to live on as a dwindling race and are forced to return to the sacred lava, 'rejoining' the TokHaar