Managing Miscellania - 19M Profit - 1000 Bird's Nests Opened

[StormCoreFilms]

Hey guys - StormCoreFilms here!

 

I've put together a video of me obtaining 1 and a half years worth of Managing Miscellania goodies. Through the video, I open and crush 1000 bird's nests. The total value of the accumulated items is 19 million coins. Enjoy!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uL-KX1-nkI

 

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[Calm Koala]

How much did you put in btw?

[StormCoreFilms]

How much did you put in btw?

 

I'm not particularly sure - it's quite hard to place. If I had to guess, I would say around 2 million coins and no more. I made sure my approval rating was at 100% on the final day of my membership.

[Vezon Dash]

I put in 2 million coins every 4~5 weeks.... You also have to upkeep your approval rating to keep gaining resources. 0.0

[Calm Koala]

Interesting that the rating stays 100%

[Jj Dynomite]

You should have gotten membership during the summer. =/ The nests would have 4-5 times more.

 

Just to point out, you probably didn't "profit" 19m and if you put in 2m like you said you did, then it would be 17m profit so just something else to mention.

[StormCoreFilms]

You should have gotten membership during the summer. =/ The nests would have 4-5 times more.

 

Just to point out, you probably didn't "profit" 19m and if you put in 2m like you said you did, then it would be 17m profit so just something else to mention.

 

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I realised it after uploading the video, then forgot about it when writing the post. I guess I just meant to say that the total coin value of the accumulated items was 19 million.

[vmser]

18 months = roughly 540 days.

At 75k a day (assuming 15 workers) you have spent:

40.5 million gp.

Assuming you only count the 10 workers that gave you maple logs = 50k a day : 27 million gp invested.

 

To figure out how much profit or loss you have had, you need to calculate TOTAL investment (as I did above) and total resale value (LOGS + NESTS + SEEDS).

 

Doing kingdom properly should probably triple your value invested. As for doing just the logs (10 workers) that'd be 27 million turned into 81 million, or a profit of 54 million.

 

I therefor have no idea why you're showing off with 17 million gp profit.

[StormCoreFilms]

18 months = roughly 540 days.

At 75k a day (assuming 15 workers) you have spent:

40.5 million gp.

Assuming you only count the 10 workers that gave you maple logs = 50k a day : 27 million gp invested.

 

To figure out how much profit or loss you have had, you need to calculate TOTAL investment (as I did above) and total resale value (LOGS + NESTS + SEEDS).

 

Doing kingdom properly should probably triple your value invested. As for doing just the logs (10 workers) that'd be 27 million turned into 81 million, or a profit of 54 million.

 

I therefor have no idea why you're showing off with 17 million gp profit.

 

I don't know why you're under the impression that 75K was spent a day - that amount is taking out of the coffers each day assuming there is 750K or more left. If I had put in 2 mill, it would soon get to the point where less than 75K was taken each day, producing less resources; therefore, your calculations are invalid. You've also got to take into account the random aspect of the nests, which can greatly change the final profit.

 

Regardless of this, I don't know why you're trying to argue with me, because it's obvious in the video what I make anyway. I think I'd remember putting in 2 mill instead of 27.

[toone]

The value of the nests contents are random, but what isn't random is the amount spent for each basic resource (in your case maples and herbs). For each maple 56.1 gp are spent and for each herb 826,4 coins are spent. You collected 97k maples and a total of 3336 herbs.

 

You claim that you only put 2 mil in the coffers, this cannot be true. Even if you assume that your approval rating stays at 100%, meaning no waste, the minimum amount you put in the coffers is at least 8197k (97k*56.1 from maples + 3336*826,4 from herbs).

 

Because the approval rating drops, you probably put alot more in the coffers then this.

[toone]

Ok, this intrigued me.

 

According to what you said in your video, this is what happened:

 

- you put money in the coffer, you are not sure how much money (you think 2m, but you say

- you started at 100% approval rating

- you left your kingdom alone for ~1.5 years (no improvement of approval rating, no extra money added to coffers)

 

According to what you showed in your video (assuming you only showed items you collected from MTK)

- your end result was 97059 maples and 3336 herbs

 

According to the rules of MTK we know:

- every day an amount of gp is taken from your coffers equal to 10% of the total amount in your coffers with a maximum of 75k

- the profit from this amount for that day is equal to (your approval rating)*(the amount taken from the coffers)

- your approval rating drops every day with 1%, your approval rating never drops below 25%

 

What is known about MTK in guides (tip.it)

- from the total amount of profit items are "bought" if you collect the items

- each maple log costs 56.1 gp and each herb costs 826.4 gp

 

What I don't know for sure

- if and how the numbers are rounded

 

The calculations:

 

- As I already have shown above, in order to get the results shown in your video the amount you put in the coffers at the start should've been at least 8197k (actually 8201879 gp, because you collected a 97059 maple logs, not exactly 97k (this is the minimum amount if your approval rating was 100% every day)

 

- Assuming you put enough money in your coffers so each day 75k is removed and you don't improve your approval rating:

the first 75 days 5625k is removed from your coffers resulting in a profit of 3543k (75k*(1+0.99+0.98...+0.26).

- After these first 75 days each day only 25% of 75k is added to the profit until the coffers hit 750k

- After that 10% of your coffers is removed and 25% of this amount is added to the profit. If you assume the coffers empty till infinity of the remaining 750k gp, only a profit of 187500 is expected. (This is amount differs, depending how things are rounded, but it isn't a major difference)

- from this you can calculated that it took 75+248 days to reach 750k in your coffers (total profit=profit from first 75 days + 0.25*75k*(days till 750k gp is reached)+187.5k ==> 8201879 = 3543k+0.25*75k*248+187.5k

-from this you can calculate the total amount that is put into the coffers in total: 5625k+75k*248+750k=~25m

 

So, assuming that you got 19m profit selling your items, you actually lost ~6m and didn't make 17m profit.

 

This would be true, if it is possible to put 25m into the coffers. The max amount you can put into the coffers is 7500k (which is also lower as the minimum amount needed at 100% approval rating all the time)

 

As I've shown, it's impossible to get these results shown in the video under the circumstances that are given in the video. So, either the poster added money to the coffers in between or someone else did it (which could point to another person having acces to that account)

[StormCoreFilms]

I don't say anything about how much I put in the coffers in the video; that was just my approximation above. Now, it seems likely that I did put in more money.

 

I hope you understand that I'm not deliberately lying or attempting to deceive anybody; that's just what I got. I'm sure my last membership expired roughly a year and a half ago (as shown by my adventurer log). That, too, is a rough figure.

 

Basically, I said I put 2 million above in a post as what I remember. Obviously, that's probably wrong - oh well. Thanks for pointing that out.

[toone]

I never said you were lying, just pointing out it's impossible to get these results with only one deposit of money. I'm only pointing this out because it's (unintentionally) misleading.

 

There's one explanation I didn't think of yesterday and that's you already had some credits from your workers build up without collecting the rewards when you made your last deposit. You cannot see how much rewards your workers collected, so when you made your final deposit before your membership ran out, it might have appeared as if you did this from scratch.