Platinum_Myr Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 That's stupid design =s Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 In almost ten years of scaping I have probably missed every good EXP out there, lol. Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryJackson Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Maybe if Jagex did something about bots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 In semi related news, jagex nearly halved the slayer xp from most slayer tasks. People aren't sure if it's intentional or not yet, but either way, yet another example of Jagex leaving something alone for a few months, letting people train significantly faster, and then nerfing it. I'm beginning to think there's a Jmod out there who makes each skill really easy to train, then nerfs it when he's done. Only half joking. In the list of training methods that have been left for months or years before being nerfed, we now have: EffigiesFlash powder factoryRunespanBarraging/Chinning @ Ape AtollSlaying with cannon/titanIcefiends& now slayer in general. Ah yes, "game balance", we have dismissed that claim. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 In semi related news, jagex nearly halved the slayer xp from most slayer tasks. People aren't sure if it's intentional or not yet, but either way, yet another example of Jagex leaving something alone for a few months, letting people train significantly faster, and then nerfing it. I'm beginning to think there's a Jmod out there who makes each skill really easy to train, then nerfs it when he's done. Only half joking. In the list of training methods that have been left for months or years before being nerfed, we now have: EffigiesFlash powder factoryRunespanSlaying with cannon/titanIcefiends& now slayer in general. Ah yes, "game balance", we have dismissed that claim. Halving the xp rates would put it below pre eoc numbers, do you have any numbers to back this up? Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 In semi related news, jagex nearly halved the slayer xp from most slayer tasks. People aren't sure if it's intentional or not yet, but either way, yet another example of Jagex leaving something alone for a few months, letting people train significantly faster, and then nerfing it. I'm beginning to think there's a Jmod out there who makes each skill really easy to train, then nerfs it when he's done. Only half joking. In the list of training methods that have been left for months or years before being nerfed, we now have: EffigiesFlash powder factoryRunespanSlaying with cannon/titanIcefiends& now slayer in general. Ah yes, "game balance", we have dismissed that claim. Halving the xp rates would put it below pre eoc numbers, do you have any numbers to back this up? Go and kill a slayer creature, and you will get around half the slayer xp from it that you would have done yesterday. Not sure about lower levelled tasks, but most Kuradal tasks have had this happen. E.g. Steel dragons; 389 -> 200 xpGanodermic beasts; 629 -> 305 xpMithril dragons; 880 xp -> 305 xp Kalphite King also had the slayer xp halved. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 In semi related news, jagex nearly halved the slayer xp from most slayer tasks. People aren't sure if it's intentional or not yet, but either way, yet another example of Jagex leaving something alone for a few months, letting people train significantly faster, and then nerfing it. I'm beginning to think there's a Jmod out there who makes each skill really easy to train, then nerfs it when he's done. Only half joking. In the list of training methods that have been left for months or years before being nerfed, we now have: EffigiesFlash powder factoryRunespanSlaying with cannon/titanIcefiends& now slayer in general. Ah yes, "game balance", we have dismissed that claim. Halving the xp rates would put it below pre eoc numbers, do you have any numbers to back this up? Go and kill a slayer creature, and you will get just over half the slayer xp from it that you would have done yesterday.So steels are now ~190 xp? and abby specs will be ~ 40xp each? Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Read above edit, steels are now 200 ea, not sure about spectres. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Is this true or a troll/hoax Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It's true, check Quick find code: [qfc]15-16-252-64443733[/qfc] More creatures: Grifolaroos; 340.5 -> 255.5Black demons, unchanged actually; still 120.2Waterfiend, also unchanged; 170Blue dragons, 98.5 -> 75.5Dark beasts, unchanged; 154 Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It's true, check Quick find code: 15-16-252-64443733 More creatures: Grifolaroos; 340.5 -> 255.5Black demons, unchanged actually; still 120.2Waterfiend, also unchanged; 170Blue dragons, 98.5 -> 75.5Dark beasts, unchanged; 154 Black demons were 98.5 when i did them a few days ago, greaters where 120. I'd assume they felt some tasks were too high and brought them back. I did steels >waterfiends>steels in an hour the other day, picking up all the loot and I got ~58k xp. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Yeah they've made the good tasks worse, but they've left what used to be good tasks pre EoC like Mutated velds with terrible xp rates, and they've left cannon/titan being no where near as effective as they were pre eoc, with the end result that slayer is now in even more of a mess than it was. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Yeah they've made the good tasks worse, but they've left what used to be good tasks pre EoC like Mutated velds with terrible xp rates, and they've left cannon/titan being no where near as effective as they were pre eoc, with the end result that slayer is now in even more of a mess than it was.Mhmm, I agree it needed some balancing but other things aren't that bad. Most tasks I can do in ~20 minutes or less, aside from things like 100 steels. Even things like Mutated velds I've switched to regular because they are just that fast. If you give up looting, as i have 99 summoning I'm not overly concerned about charms, before this nerf I could easily hit 70 - 80k an hour without using a titan or cannon. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scherzo Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I noticed slayer being a lot slower when I did a few tasks today. Seems like I was right. I like the thought of slayer being a pretty slow skill though, so in my opinion, this could be a good move, even if it'll put me back quite a few hours to get 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Nerfscape is lame. Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 That's horrible! Cannon doesn't do much, some monsters are practically unklllable... everything is just ruined atm. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy227 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) The new slayer creatures, automatons gave a bit over 3,600 xp* earlier this morning, then after a while I only got 1,650ish xp a kill. ( not sure exact number but it was halved) * experience per kill as in range and hit points xp, not slayer, I'm unsure what their slayer xp is. Edited March 5, 2013 by fishy227 xSoulgazerElysian Sigil ---- 11/24/10 ---- 550M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 That's horrible! Cannon doesn't do much, some monsters are practically unklllable... everything is just ruined atm. What monsters are "unkillable"? The new slayer creatures, automatons gave a bit over 3,600 xp earlier this morning, then after a while I only got 1,650ish xp a kill. ( not sure exact number but it was halved) I would assume this is the reason everything else saw a nerf, it was a quick fix that effected more then it should have. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Mithril dragons state they are weak to earth magic, but when I used ahrims wand and earth surge I was splashing more than I was hitting. I was getting about 1 kill per overload, and taking too much damage. Was using a shield and stuff too... Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Mithril dragons state they are weak to earth magic, but when I used ahrims wand and earth surge I was splashing more than I was hitting. I was getting about 1 kill per overload, and taking too much damage. Was using a shield and stuff too...Unless they have been buff'd your doing something wrong, because I have no issues killing them with a poly staff and earth spells. I take alot of dmg but SS takes care of that. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 When did you last do them? It's possible that I needed the 2h for the higher accuracy because the 1h wand has low accuracy? I dunno I've heard I should try chaotic rapiers so that's what I am gonna do next task. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampell Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 You really need a staff or either ahrims/virtus wand. Because every other wand has REALLY low accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 When did you last do them? It's possible that I needed the 2h for the higher accuracy because the 1h wand has low accuracy? I dunno I've heard I should try chaotic rapiers so that's what I am gonna do next task. Would have been a couple weeks ago now. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think they did some defense buffing since then, not sure. I had Ahrims wand, it wasn't enough. Once I get the tokens I will try chaotic staff. The Ahrims wand + shield was not enough accuracy to dmg them. Bestiary says they have 80 defence, 80 attack, 1 ranged, and 1 magic. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think they did some defense buffing since then, not sure. I had Ahrims wand, it wasn't enough. Once I get the tokens I will try chaotic staff. The Ahrims wand + shield was not enough accuracy to dmg them. Bestiary says they have 80 defence, 80 attack, 1 ranged, and 1 magic. You have super antifires, just use a poly staff, they are what? 100k Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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