Hamtaro Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I have never been more prepared to play RuneScape than now. I'm going at it on Sunday night.[spoiler=Spreadsheet] Interesting Trivia: I'm doing Shield of Arrav with the same guy I originally completed it with back in 2004 and later Heroes Quest in 2007 as well. Player since 2004. All skills 1M+ XP."If it were possible to cure evils by lamentation..., then gold would be a less valuable thing than weeping." - Sophocles"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vann Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Where is that spreadsheet? Would be cool for figuring out everything to do starting off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamtaro Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I made it this afternoon while bored after one of my exams. I can upload it somewhere if you're interested. Player since 2004. All skills 1M+ XP."If it were possible to cure evils by lamentation..., then gold would be a less valuable thing than weeping." - Sophocles"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamtaro Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Really hoping I removed all traces of my name...https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing Edit: Looks like it only works properly if you download it from Google Docs instead of just viewing it. 1 Player since 2004. All skills 1M+ XP."If it were possible to cure evils by lamentation..., then gold would be a less valuable thing than weeping." - Sophocles"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Since membership is separate then your normal account/normal RS after the first month, do you think a lot of people will simply use an old account or a separate account, or just bundle it with their normal account? EDIT: Also couldn't find anything on this, is there a rough ETA time-wise when they launch it? Edited February 22, 2013 by Kaida23 A little less flame please. Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryJackson Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Haha can't wait guys@!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piu Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 -SNIP-grow up Chris. On Topic, since membership is separate then your normal account/normal RS after the first month, do you think a lot of people will simply use an old account or a separate account, or just bundle it with their normal account? EDIT: Also couldn't find anything on this, is there a rough ETA time-wise when they launch it? it is not seperate. You have to buy EoCScape mems before you can purchase 07scape mems. [hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Never gonna give you up.[/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide]"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baffler Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 -SNIP-grow up Chris. On Topic, since membership is separate then your normal account/normal RS after the first month, do you think a lot of people will simply use an old account or a separate account, or just bundle it with their normal account? EDIT: Also couldn't find anything on this, is there a rough ETA time-wise when they launch it? it is not seperate. You have to buy EoCScape mems before you can purchase 07scape mems. Separate in the sense it's not included in our regular payments for the current game. I'll be playing 07RS on an old/separate account while keeping my current account a member on the main game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Yeah everything so far has described 07scape fees as 'additional' which does directly imply they are an addition to normal members, not a separate entity; so $5 a month for 07scape means $10 total (roughly) from thw wording thus far. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeMarine Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wonder how opening up the servers will affect the vote? Before it was vote and after the votes are counted you'll get a month of RS '07. Now it's vote now and you can start playing RS '07. That's gotta encourage players that cbf'd for voting to just vote yes to see what the fuss is about. That said, it's a wonder in the Q&A that nobody asked about holiday events, emotes and non-tradeable holiday items. Has that been addressed anywhere? One option (easier to implement) is for holiday items and emotes to cross over if you have access to them in the main game. Another, more complicated option, is for Jagex to release an old school holiday event when the holiday rolls around. Just no rares please. Learn how to Learn Japanese on your own - Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners in JapaneseStop Forgetting Stuff for College and Life - Anki - a program which makes remembering things easyReach Elite Fitness - CrossFit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
().-. Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wonder how opening up the servers will affect the vote? Before it was vote and after the votes are counted you'll get a month of RS '07. Now it's vote now and you can start playing RS '07. That's gotta encourage players that cbf'd for voting to just vote yes to see what the fuss is about. That said, it's a wonder in the Q&A that nobody asked about holiday events, emotes and non-tradeable holiday items. Has that been addressed anywhere? One option (easier to implement) is for holiday items and emotes to cross over if you have access to them in the main game. Another, more complicated option, is for Jagex to release an old school holiday event when the holiday rolls around. Just no rares please. The alternate option is untradeable rares as holiday items, one supposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorLepRecon Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Honestly, they should just have Diango hand out all the old holiday items that were around at the time, including untradeable versions of rares. Forum Updates & Suggestions <------ Let your voice be heard!Forum Games <------- Coolest place on Tip.ItTip.It Forum Rules <------- Read them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toone Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 We are just over 250k votes now. Assuming that each vote is one person (which is probably not the case anyway) and reflects sincere interest in playing RS2007 (probably not), it would be more cost effective to pay membership for one month on a second account and vote again (hoping everybody else is this smart, which is probably not the case). Reaching to 500k votes means no more additional member fee for RS2007, so you earn back the investment of 1 month membership after just one month (2, because of the free first month after voting) Ofcourse this could be considered cheating and gives Jagex false information, but it's just a major flaw in the set up of the tiers they should have thought about in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Best way to deal with rares would be if they had some way of tracking which accounts are Classic Veterans, and giving them a random selection. Yes it wouldn't be fair, but it'll be the closest thing to emulating the rare market in 07 that I can think of. 1 Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Honestly, they should just have Diango hand out all the old holiday items that were around at the time, including untradeable versions of rares.Don't you feel sorry for Diango by now? Cut him some slack in this alt universe :P In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 In theory having diango be able to give out all the pre-07 untradable holiday items wouldn't be that hard. I mean somewhere in account data there has got to be a 'diango' block as it were which stores this info - could just make 07scape servers read it but only the first X entries (assuming of course the entires go in chronological order and that they always all exist as either 'no' or 'yes' meaning by defining entry X it could only read as far as easter 07) Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999134 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Honestly, they should just have Diango hand out all the old holiday items that were around at the time, including untradeable versions of rares.Don't you feel sorry for Diango by now? Cut him some slack in this alt universe :PI just had a brilliant image of Diango moaning about how times have changed, and in his day people didn't need to pay for extra stuff. I think a lottery type system would work best for rares... Might upset some people as they think they deserve them for being RSC players, but it is the fairest way to give them out. Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Honestly the best method I've seen to introduce rares is through Clue's! Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Honestly (even though I do not intend to play) I'd like 07scape to remain rare free simply because it was be an interesting economic model to observe a rare-less rs and could potentially make a case for altering rares in live RS to be untradeble (with some form of forewarning and/or RS monetary compensation of course) - especially in the case of rares that are spiralling beyond max gp value because there are only very tiny* numbers left that actually move around. *tiny in proportion to active players before anyone jumps down my throat about the few hundred or thousand of an item being quite a lot. 2 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marduk_God Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Honestly, they should just have Diango hand out all the old holiday items that were around at the time, including untradeable versions of rares.Don't you feel sorry for Diango by now? Cut him some slack in this alt universe :PI just had a brilliant image of Diango moaning about how times have changed, and in his day people didn't need to pay for extra stuff. I think a lottery type system would work best for rares... Might upset some people as they think they deserve them for being RSC players, but it is the fairest way to give them out. I agree with PoorLepRecon. Why not just make every single rare (holiday) item obtainable from Diango for free, and make it untradeable between players? This mechanism would be similar to how you can get back any holiday item from him that you've found but lost. Or just get rid of them altogether. They were never supposed to be anything more than purely cosmetic items anyway, and there is absolutely no 'fair' way of giving them out if they're only obtainable through drop (from event in the game world) or lottery and trade (between players). A lottery is not fair either - it may be random, but only those people participating in the lottery stand a chance. Those who join 2007scape later have no way of getting one short of trading for one - and it's the same thing all over again. Jagex has always lamented the unbalanced effect they had on the economy (being in effect the most expensive items). If anything, this is their chance to start with a clean slate. What else is the point of everyone starting from zero (level 1 stats, no bank) if they're just going to chuck in a bunch of holiday items at random, thereby creating unbalancing effects in the long run? If you want to have them, just make them free and untradeable between players. Everybody's happy. Except for the people who had hoped to use them to gain a monetary advantage through speculation. The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is for Good Men to do Nothing. (Edmund Burke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Like Lep said, that's probably the best mechanic. Sure, not everyone was around in RSC for them, but there's also no other way for ANYONE to get them. Otherwise they're just an empty data item floating around, unobtainable by any means. Well, unless your a JMod but that's cheating. Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbagad Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Well going by RS twitter looks like it could be coming as soon as the next hour or so. I wish it was coming later, since I'm about to go to bed. Oh well, will just wake up early like the old days lol ;) [spoiler=My 99s (7)]9,638th to 99 Fletching ~ 29th January 2007 737th to 99 Hunter ~ 2nd July 2007910th to 99 Agility ~ 28th January 200859,467th to 99 Defence ~ 23rd December 200992,762nd to 99 Hitpoints ~ 26th June 2010102,704th to 99 Attack ~ 29th June 2010144,091st to 99 Strength ~ 29th June 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grainy Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hope its not for a couple of hours - in lecture! ~ Grainy's Blog ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousepad Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The best method to introduce rares is to make entirely new ones and implement them covertly. Introduce tradeable items in an inconspicuous way, and then suddenly discontinue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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