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2007 - Old School RuneScape... You Vote! - [It's Here!]

  

  1. 1. Will You Vote for 2007 Runescape?

    • Yes
      33
    • No
      30
    • I'm F2P
      8
  2. 2. Will you play on 2007 Servers?

    • Yes
      37
    • No
      27
    • I'm F2p, so no
      4
    • I'm F2P, but would subscribe
      4


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People need to just accept that people will complain about this no matter what. Even if Jagex has enough money from these 2007 servers to benefit the main game 10-fold people will still [bleep] and complain, it's just how the Runescape community is.

 

This is also why people will keep with this "minority" argument. If the votes hit 500k people will still say it's a minority using the 1.8m number at that point. This is an argument you can't win, due to the general rs population being so damn stubborn and threatened regarding this 2007 implementation.

 

Face it, alot of people WANT to play this 2007 server. They KNOW this server has no GE, no summoning, no LRC, no Span, etc. This is why most of us WANT TO PLAY IT. Saying we'll quit due to it is simply laughable. We KNOW there is no economy, we KNOW people will have to grind mining/smithing, slayer, etc before these items come in. This is why we're EXCITED. Personally, I'm incredibly excited because I WANT to grind out mining / fishing very fast, to be one of the top miners/fishers in the game, and start the supply of fish / ores / armour / whips etc to the community.

 

This argument and incredible bitterness to the 2007 servers shows the exact reason why alot of people don't like the current RS community. People can't just let people do what they enjoy. They have to criticize how they play, tell them what they're allowed to enjoy, and downgrade people's accomplishments just because their viewpoint is different. A pure example is that whole Green with her 'inefficient' style of playing. Because it's inefficient, she shouldn't be doing it, regardless of if it is fun to her.

 

Let people play the way they want to for pity sake lol.

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I would point out my post was not a argument against 07scape servers, it was simply an observation of what I have observed thus far in debates pertaining to what the 0 day world will be like.

 

I find it quite tiring that posting anything but sunshining out of your butt praise on this thread is immediately tagged as being an argument or bitter or negative towards 07scape; the vast majority of the posts since the vote begun from people who aren't pro 07scape have just been observational or thoughts yet keep getting jumped on as attacks about people's choice play style or complaints or w/e.


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I think that maybe you are in the minority of players if you realize that the game will be impossible at the beginning. There are going to be a lot of good opportunities for players who want to build the game by contributing, but I think that a lot of people don't have that kind of patience (look at the rsc servers for example).

 

With any luck, having to pay $15 per month per bot will keep some gold-farming bots out of 2007scape.

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I'm talking about the whole 58 page discussion, not your specific post.

 

And yes of course we're the minority, which will probably take up the majority of the servers. If people don't want to grind, they'll quit of course, leaving the majority of the server people who actually do want to do these grinds, thus being self sustaining (however, it will take some time to get there).

 

The first month will be alot of people whining and quitting, due to voters getting their first month free, and the forums will all be up and laughing at how their "predictions were true", discounting the fact that alot of people who didn't care about 07 servers will try it and be the ones actually causing those problems. Then a few months later, the real players will be there, and I think you'll see a decent amount of people there.

 

Also, alot of people seem to forget about 2 things regarding classic. There are no hiscores, which eliminates almost all forms of actually competing, and signups are closed. People will quit all the time for whatever reason they may have, but noone else will take their place. Of course the classic servers dwindled.

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There are no hiscores, which eliminates almost all forms of actually competing

That hasn't stopped the F2P community. ;)

 

and signups are closed.

Yeah, that would stop most anything. Hopefully they don't restrict RS07 signups like that have for RSC.


 

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and signups are closed.

Yeah, that would stop most anything. Hopefully they don't restrict RS07 signups like that have for RSC.

$15 is probably as good as that for the vast majority of 2007 wanna-plays :P

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There are no hiscores, which eliminates almost all forms of actually competing

That hasn't stopped the F2P community. ;)

 

Yeah but you also had hiscores for quite some time before it was taken away. You guys relied on it so had to make changes in order to continue. Classic right from the split didn't have a hiscore system, and being an avid RSC player on my other account, I can assure you to this day the lack of hiscores have prevented true competition.

 

 

and signups are closed.

Yeah, that would stop most anything. Hopefully they don't restrict RS07 signups like that have for RSC.

 

I seriously hope not too. However with the additional member pricing to play (Face it everybody, 500k isn't happening, not by a long shot), I don't see Jagex restricting signups.

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I almost want to vote now so I can nostalge for a month for free, but at the same time, I don't want to screw Jagex when I don't pay $15 extra to play the game.

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I almost want to vote now so I can nostalge for a month for free, but at the same time, I don't want to screw Jagex when I don't pay $15 extra to play the game.

 

In that case, I'd definitely wait for the final day(s) of voting. If it does somehow get close enough to 250k, maybe then vote due to the $5 possible price. Unfortunately though, that is not looking very likely :(

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but I think it will be less prevalent than the main game, and hopefully almost non-existent for a while.

I think it'll be the complete opposite. Botting will be epidemic in 2007 servers as people too impatient in the race to the top cheat their way up either by botting directly on their characters or real world trading gold. It wouldn't surprise me one iota if the first whip to be claimed was done so by a botter/goldfarmer and sold for irl money.

This is, of course, one of the aspects that will likely happen. The other issue is, of course, the problem with re-building the game's economy. With everyone starting at scratch and no gear and/or items that can be bought and sold except through the old-fashioned "bank sale" format, it's pretty much going to be DIY for a while. Everyone is going to have, essentially, the same goods and materials as everyone else and no money. As such, there will be little, if any, player to player trading going on.

 

This was the same issue that happened when they reintroduced RSC. As a result, you're going to have people buying and selling crap in the stores again, which means that sold goods will plummet in value and bought goods will rise. No one will make money and everyone will be poor and [bleep]ing about it.

 

Ah well, I guess some people will enjoy this system, like the 120 or so people still playing RSC daily ...

 

:rolleyes:


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but I think it will be less prevalent than the main game, and hopefully almost non-existent for a while.

I think it'll be the complete opposite. Botting will be epidemic in 2007 servers as people too impatient in the race to the top cheat their way up either by botting directly on their characters or real world trading gold. It wouldn't surprise me one iota if the first whip to be claimed was done so by a botter/goldfarmer and sold for irl money.

This is, of course, one of the aspects that will likely happen. The other issue is, of course, the problem with re-building the game's economy. With everyone starting at scratch and no gear and/or items that can be bought and sold except through the old-fashioned "bank sale" format, it's pretty much going to be DIY for a while. Everyone is going to have, essentially, the same goods and materials as everyone else and no money. As such, there will be little, if any, player to player trading going on.

 

This was the same issue that happened when they reintroduced RSC. As a result, you're going to have people buying and selling crap in the stores again, which means that sold goods will plummet in value and bought goods will rise. No one will make money and everyone will be poor and [bleep]ing about it.

 

Ah well, I guess some people will enjoy this system, like the 120 or so people still playing RSC daily ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

Im assuming rather than gold trading it'll be resources. Like my 50 logs for your 40 ores. Which is quite nice. As it suits both players trading.

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The difference between a reset in 07 and Rsc is how beneficial quests will be in the beginning. Dragon weapons can be bought in shops and many quests offer gp rewards, also nats can be crafted. Meaning gp theoretically can be generated much more rapidly as more people can have access to high Althing much more quickly than they could in a reset Rsc.

 

Those of us who know what to do wont see getting established as being as impossible as what most people who will play and shortly thereafter quit rs07 will.

 

 

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Uh anybody notice whats going on? The number of voters per minute is now @ 66!


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Uh anybody notice whats going on? The number of voters per minute is now @ 66!

Aaaaand ... what ?

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I put my name on the petition, even though I have no interest in it. By no interest, I mean I don't care if it goes forward or not since it will have exactly zero impact on me.

I do know that there are a core group of players who are quite passionate about this, so I said yes for their sakes.

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The difference between a reset in 07 and Rsc is how beneficial quests will be in the beginning. Dragon weapons can be bought in shops and many quests offer gp rewards, also nats can be crafted. Meaning gp theoretically can be generated much more rapidly as more people can have access to high Althing much more quickly than they could in a reset Rsc.

 

Those of us who know what to do wont see getting established as being as impossible as what most people who will play and shortly thereafter quit rs07 will.

 

Stronghold of Security rush for a free 10k!

 

 

smh @ dargon

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Barrows will be a much better money maker than 85 slayer and much easier to begin. Best armor widely available in the game, low requirements to welfare and with agic dart it's more or less profitable magic xp, and a way to stockpile bloods for pking ;).

 

Prayer pots will be a pain to aquire, but some of us who know what to do will be farming barrows within a month of opening pretty easily. Then just stock the armor til the main economy is established enough to profitably sell the armoir

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but I think it will be less prevalent than the main game, and hopefully almost non-existent for a while.

I think it'll be the complete opposite. Botting will be epidemic in 2007 servers as people too impatient in the race to the top cheat their way up either by botting directly on their characters or real world trading gold. It wouldn't surprise me one iota if the first whip to be claimed was done so by a botter/goldfarmer and sold for irl money.

This is, of course, one of the aspects that will likely happen. The other issue is, of course, the problem with re-building the game's economy. With everyone starting at scratch and no gear and/or items that can be bought and sold except through the old-fashioned "bank sale" format, it's pretty much going to be DIY for a while. Everyone is going to have, essentially, the same goods and materials as everyone else and no money. As such, there will be little, if any, player to player trading going on.

 

This was the same issue that happened when they reintroduced RSC. As a result, you're going to have people buying and selling crap in the stores again, which means that sold goods will plummet in value and bought goods will rise. No one will make money and everyone will be poor and [bleep]ing about it.

 

Ah well, I guess some people will enjoy this system, like the 120 or so people still playing RSC daily ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

Im assuming rather than gold trading it'll be resources. Like my 50 logs for your 40 ores. Which is quite nice. As it suits both players trading.

 

Yeah - that worked so well after the relaunch RSC, didn't it? :unsure:

 

The difference between a reset in 07 and Rsc is how beneficial quests will be in the beginning. Dragon weapons can be bought in shops and many quests offer gp rewards, also nats can be crafted. Meaning gp theoretically can be generated much more rapidly as more people can have access to high Althing much more quickly than they could in a reset Rsc.

 

Those of us who know what to do wont see getting established as being as impossible as what most people who will play and shortly thereafter quit rs07 will.

 

Sure, yeah - and how long will it take for the 100 or so of you who will stick it out to get to those levels?


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some of us who know what to do will be farming barrows within a month of opening pretty easily.

 

That is a bold statement.

 

 

@bly

 

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

http://runescape.wik...old_of_Security

 

I was thinking of: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Stronghold_of_Player_Safety


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but I think it will be less prevalent than the main game, and hopefully almost non-existent for a while.

I think it'll be the complete opposite. Botting will be epidemic in 2007 servers as people too impatient in the race to the top cheat their way up either by botting directly on their characters or real world trading gold. It wouldn't surprise me one iota if the first whip to be claimed was done so by a botter/goldfarmer and sold for irl money.

This is, of course, one of the aspects that will likely happen. The other issue is, of course, the problem with re-building the game's economy. With everyone starting at scratch and no gear and/or items that can be bought and sold except through the old-fashioned "bank sale" format, it's pretty much going to be DIY for a while. Everyone is going to have, essentially, the same goods and materials as everyone else and no money. As such, there will be little, if any, player to player trading going on.

 

This was the same issue that happened when they reintroduced RSC. As a result, you're going to have people buying and selling crap in the stores again, which means that sold goods will plummet in value and bought goods will rise. No one will make money and everyone will be poor and [bleep]ing about it.

 

Ah well, I guess some people will enjoy this system, like the 120 or so people still playing RSC daily ...

 

:rolleyes:

 

Im assuming rather than gold trading it'll be resources. Like my 50 logs for your 40 ores. Which is quite nice. As it suits both players trading.

 

Yeah - that worked so well after the relaunch RSC, didn't it? :unsure:

 

The difference between a reset in 07 and Rsc is how beneficial quests will be in the beginning. Dragon weapons can be bought in shops and many quests offer gp rewards, also nats can be crafted. Meaning gp theoretically can be generated much more rapidly as more people can have access to high Althing much more quickly than they could in a reset Rsc.

 

Those of us who know what to do wont see getting established as being as impossible as what most people who will play and shortly thereafter quit rs07 will.

 

Sure, yeah - and how long will it take for the 100 or so of you who will stick it out to get to those levels?

 

 

Stronghold of Security rush for a free 10k!

 

smh @ dargon

 

Stronghold of Security is 2008 content. Sorry.

 

100 people willing to do the work for a couple months and then pking is better than the barren that is the current wilderness currently IMO. But once again that's how I feel. You have to understand for many of us it's this or nothing... If 07rs is a huge flop then it flops and I go back to my everyday life without rs. Simple as that, eoc supporters should want 07rs to succeed because for many like me it's either this or no rs. Which I'm fine with, I'd much rather be able to provide revenue for the live game then not play at all and contribute nothing to runescape whatsoever

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Uh anybody notice whats going on? The number of voters per minute is now @ 66!

It's now advertised in the lobby when you log in, so more exposure


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100 people willing to do the work for a couple months and then pking is better than the barren that is the current wilderness currently IMO. But once again that's how I feel. You have to understand for many of us it's this or nothing... If 07rs is a huge flop then it flops and I go back to my everyday life without rs

 

Well. You see. Why is it now, all of the sudden a big deal. What about everyday life, everyday since Jan 1 08?


 

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2013-02-18 15:50:00 GMT 156474 583 583

2013-02-18 16:50:01 GMT 157864 1,390 1389.614

 

A 120% increase from the last hour folks.


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100 people willing to do the work for a couple months and then pking is better than the barren that is the current wilderness currently IMO. But once again that's how I feel. You have to understand for many of us it's this or nothing... If 07rs is a huge flop then it flops and I go back to my everyday life without rs

 

Well. You see. Why is it now, all of the sudden a big deal. What about everyday life, everyday since Jan 1 08?

 

If you had a chance to rebuild a game you loved with the mechanics and gameplay that has a fan base would you not be passionate about it as well?

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