dual, 2h, range and mage setup for max dps

[khandajatt]

I have nvr tried eoc properly just messing around here and there nvr actually got a hang of it and imo dont really know much abt it either other than mobs weakness and stuff...so I was wondering if any of u can guide me on the setups of the above classes for best dps...I wanna know the armour setup and wat abilities I shuld use. Ill just test myself after n make a rotation if I can share with you all if needed. Also keep in mind money isnt a problem for me to get stuff but still give me alternatives to them if possible. Thanks for your help :)

[Quyneax]

Max dps: void, max crit bonus, Nex boots+gloves.

 

For ranged, dual ccbow or 2h zaryte. Murmur amulet, pernix boots+gloves, comp cape (or ava's alerter), imbued archer's ring.

For mage, dual virtus (wand+book) and 2h cstaff. Arcstream, virtus boots+gloves, comp cape (or mage arena cape), imbued seer's ring.

 

If you can't get imbued rings, get regular or 6th age circuit.

If you can't get Nex boots/gloves, any will do.

[MotherBrainII]

2h zaryte

 

IIRC, the Royal Crossbow is just as good and costs about 3% of the price of a Zaryte.

[Quyneax]

Royal crossbow was a little worse last I checked, it is also more expensive to use. The difference is small, but the op did ask for highest dps.

[khandajatt]

Also I would like to know the abilities I shuld use for each class and im guess whisper is the best ammy for hightest meele crit bonus?

 

[Th e Doctor]

Also I would like to know the abilities I shuld use for each class and im guess whisper is the best ammy for hightest meele crit bonus?

 

Yes about the ammy, for range it's the murmur I believe, for mage its still the arcane stream. (4.4%, 4.4%, and 4.9% crit respectively)

[khandajatt]

Hmm wasnt there an ammy from sara for mage as well?

[xpx]

Hmm wasnt there an ammy from sara for mage as well?

Yes and it's rubbish.

[khandajatt]

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

[xpx]

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.

[jayc3399]

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.

 

Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

[xpx]

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.

 

Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Firstly, yes, the ability damage is negligibly higher for long/rapier, but that's not considering more AA damage from mace and more damage boost from nex armor(which we can assume many would be wearing with these). In any case, the best setup would be main mace and off rapier/long.

 

As far as accuracy is concerned, if that is by jagex, it's likely false. Also, from trying the combo at QBD, unless melee is significantly more accurate than ranged on her, it's 100% not true(as EE plus drygore should be similar accuracy to royal, but it's much higher). It's likely either 100% from main hand(from them not updating it along with dual weilding update) or 2 parts main one off(which would make most sense). If it is a blunt average, then it would be easy to abuse it buying the cheapest drygore off-hand for accuracy along(because it's 20% of main weapon cost).

[jayc3399]

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.

 

Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Firstly, yes, the ability damage is negligibly higher for long/rapier, but that's not considering more AA damage from mace and more damage boost from nex armor(which we can assume many would be wearing with these). In any case, the best setup would be main mace and off rapier/long.

 

As far as accuracy is concerned, if that is by jagex, it's likely false. Also, from trying the combo at QBD, unless melee is significantly more accurate than ranged on her, it's 100% not true(as EE plus drygore should be similar accuracy to royal, but it's much higher). It's likely either 100% from main hand(from them not updating it along with dual weilding update) or 2 parts main one off(which would make most sense). If it is a blunt average, then it would be easy to abuse it buying the cheapest drygore off-hand for accuracy along(because it's 20% of main weapon cost).

 

DPS neglects attack speed so AA dmg is irrelevant. I don't remember what thread it was in but I'm pretty sure Quy proved the long& rapier are better.

 

For the accuracy I'd have to agree on that, although I thought it was in the update teasers thread of the screen shots of the HLF where they said the accuracy thing.

[Quest_Cape_K]

Ah ty...also I believe this drygore is the best? Hmm which one shuld I get?

Mace is best, but if the prices change more, the cheapest. Also, EE is almost as good as drygore offhands, albeit we are unsure as of yet how accuracy is affected.

 

Rapiers and longswords have been proven to have higher dps, maces just have a prayer bonus. We've also been told that accuracy is both of them added together divided by two.

Firstly, yes, the ability damage is negligibly higher for long/rapier, but that's not considering more AA damage from mace and more damage boost from nex armor(which we can assume many would be wearing with these). In any case, the best setup would be main mace and off rapier/long.

 

As far as accuracy is concerned, if that is by jagex, it's likely false. Also, from trying the combo at QBD, unless melee is significantly more accurate than ranged on her, it's 100% not true(as EE plus drygore should be similar accuracy to royal, but it's much higher). It's likely either 100% from main hand(from them not updating it along with dual weilding update) or 2 parts main one off(which would make most sense). If it is a blunt average, then it would be easy to abuse it buying the cheapest drygore off-hand for accuracy along(because it's 20% of main weapon cost).

QBD has like 1 def, terrible to compare accuracy of items on her.

[Quyneax]

I don't recall proving that rapier and long are better. But they might be, idk, I don't remember everything (:().

 

Autattack damage is definitely not affected by speed though (not normalized like ability damage), and when you start attacking, you get a quick combo of auto > ability without the 1.8s global cooldown, so a stronger, slower weapon would be better (because you get those attacks 'free', one tick tops no matter your speed).

 

@QBD point: You can't really prove that the formula is wrong if you didn't log hits and misses (oh and mh separately) for a lot more weapons. The QBD may technically be without weakness, but that could as easily be wrong as the formula.

[xpx]

Tested drygore mace along with off-hand bronze dagger. Noticed no difference in accuracy and the kill times were consistent with the loss of damage from off-hand. So yeah, i'm 90% sure it's only the main hand weapon that affects accuracy for abilities, thus rendering off-hand drygores little more than cosmetic items.

 

As for the damage part, fastest weapons have a chance of doing 2 auto-attacks when engaging into combat. Also, if you are really good at using abilities, 2.4 second weapons are fast enough to utilize auto-attacks for extra damage. And again, all the armor damage boosts(not void) give a larger increase for faster weapons.

 

QBD has like 1 def, terrible to compare accuracy of items on her.

You have gotten too used to drygore-scape. Both chaotic staff and royal crossbow miss quite alot on her.

[chenw]

Max dps: void, max crit bonus, Nex boots+gloves.

 

For ranged, dual ccbow or 2h zaryte. Murmur amulet, pernix boots+gloves, comp cape (or ava's alerter), imbued archer's ring.

For mage, dual virtus (wand+book) and 2h cstaff. Arcstream, virtus boots+gloves, comp cape (or mage arena cape), imbued seer's ring.

 

If you can't get imbued rings, get regular or 6th age circuit.

If you can't get Nex boots/gloves, any will do.

 

I thought you needed Void gloves for the void effect, or did I miss something very important along the way?

[khandajatt]

Hmm I thought the same abt void...isnt it a FULL set effect?

[xpx]

I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but the infallible Q has faltered. She promises to be better next time, though.

[Quyneax]

Right, my apologies :P. GWD chestplate and deflector for 1h max dps, not gloves.

[chenw]

surely an off hand weapon would easily off set the damage bonus of a bcp? :P

[Saradomin_Mage]

You're destroying her :P

[xpx]

surely an off hand weapon would easily off set the damage bonus of a bcp? :P

Surely an off-hand weapon wouldn't allow you to use abilities requiring a shield? So yeah, deflector with nex/gwd body for max 1H damage.

[Quest_Cape_K]

Tested drygore mace along with off-hand bronze dagger. Noticed no difference in accuracy and the kill times were consistent with the loss of damage from off-hand. So yeah, i'm 90% sure it's only the main hand weapon that affects accuracy for abilities, thus rendering off-hand drygores little more than cosmetic items.

 

As for the damage part, fastest weapons have a chance of doing 2 auto-attacks when engaging into combat. Also, if you are really good at using abilities, 2.4 second weapons are fast enough to utilize auto-attacks for extra damage. And again, all the armor damage boosts(not void) give a larger increase for faster weapons.

 

QBD has like 1 def, terrible to compare accuracy of items on her.

You have gotten too used to drygore-scape. Both chaotic staff and royal crossbow miss quite alot on her.

You have gotten too use to using that for a reason for everything. Royal x-bow in void destroys her still.

[xpx]

I know, but drygores are a whole nother level. I could kill 18 in an hour tops with void/royal, while as i can manage 24 with drygore. That's a huge jump, and it's mostly from accuracy. Also, apart from testing this while soloing nex or duoing kk, there isn't a monster with higher def than QBD(outside of dg).