Dungeonering Solo

[Cerri]

Don't feel too bad I'm in the same boat. I did a couple ABA1 floors solo med last night and averaged about 30 mins for each one. Granted, I wasn't really hurrying, but I used to take a lot longer to do a solo med. It comes down to practicing "good" habits... Only killing for guardian doors, not running into DENK rooms, Resisting the urge to eke out skilling XP (though I do grab fish. Everything else I can leave behind, but I like having that backup pile of food. >.>) I never really thought too much about the fact there is a right way or wrong way to use gatestones. I'll have to take a look at those guides.

[constrictor]

Don't feel too bad I'm in the same boat. I did a couple ABA1 floors solo med last night and averaged about 30 mins for each one. Granted, I wasn't really hurrying, but I used to take a lot longer to do a solo med. It comes down to practicing "good" habits... Only killing for guardian doors, not running into DENK rooms, Resisting the urge to eke out skilling XP (though I do grab fish. Everything else I can leave behind, but I like having that backup pile of food. >.>) I never really thought too much about the fact there is a right way or wrong way to use gatestones. I'll have to take a look at those guides.

 

Food/amount of food you have is entirely worthless. If you die twice, but finish a floor in 10mins it's worth not fishing or even picking up food for that matter.

 

Gatestones really are key. Pun intended.

[Cerri]

I was always under the impression that dying was bad. it sure looks like a hefty penalty when I see the breakdown at the end of a floor.

[oliboli1992]

I can usually do a medium in 15mins ut sometimes it does take 20mins when my promethium 2h decides to he useful as a rubber chicken. I do take food off the table but it's usually enough to sustain me til the end of the dung with soul split. I'm practising placing my gatestones better so i can one day try and get sub 10min meds...

[constrictor]

I was always under the impression that dying was bad. it sure looks like a hefty penalty when I see the breakdown at the end of a floor.

 

Well if youre just fighting for GDs and Bosses you shouldn't be using much/any food. Especially with soulsplit.

Generally, just trying to stay away from anything that attacks you will help, haha.

[Quyneax]

In long floors you need more food which takes time to gather and so on. Pre-EoC when people suicided for fast floors, the very best teams were actually pretty safe (and therefore excellent xp/h), because monsters simply didn't have the time to kill you.

 

Since EoC, monsters have only gotten weaker, so now you shouldn't need any food to survive solo, and maybe a couple of pieces in a team (soloing gds you can loot food while killing of course). Suiciding is largely gone, not because it's a bad idea, but because there aren't a lot of things to die from. Summoning skill doors occasionally hit over 4k though :(.

[Tui]

Don't feel too bad I'm in the same boat. I did a couple ABA1 floors solo med last night and averaged about 30 mins for each one. Granted, I wasn't really hurrying, but I used to take a lot longer to do a solo med. It comes down to practicing "good" habits... Only killing for guardian doors, not running into DENK rooms, Resisting the urge to eke out skilling XP (though I do grab fish. Everything else I can leave behind, but I like having that backup pile of food. >.>) I never really thought too much about the fact there is a right way or wrong way to use gatestones. I'll have to take a look at those guides.

 

Food/amount of food you have is entirely worthless. If you die twice, but finish a floor in 10mins it's worth not fishing or even picking up food for that matter.

 

Gatestones really are key. Pun intended.

Survival isn't hard but the amount of time it takes to loot food, especially in gds where you can usually be using an ability every 3 ticks and thus losslessly loot at least a couple over the floor means you should really try and loot just a tiny bit. Don't cook food (fishing is great fish xp/hr if you care though) in general though. Looting food is partially theme and size dependent though. I find it easy to loot some food losslessly or as necessary but it's not something I have to focus on. Ideally you should keep your mind focused on what action in the floor you need to do next. I.e. ok, once this path ends I need to gt and run e n to try and finish that path. if my current path doesn't de I need to break my gate for here and gt. and will have to ht to run original gate at some point.

 

Do you unlock doors with gatestones? I've tried jamming them into keyholes to no avail. Can you help?

 

 

 

 

 

How do they compare with Blazer?

Blazer is bad, not because the ring itself is bad but because magic's abilities in dungeon hit the same as they do in overworld, which is about half of what they should hit inside dungeoneering. 40% "spell/weapon damage" is what the abilities are based off. Regular "fast" weapons are 80%.

 

Meleeing meleers is always better at 99 all than maging meleers. Ranging meleers is generally better than maging meleers too.

This is wrong. Was updated with dual wield update. Magic should be around the same dps as melee/ranged now.

[constrictor]

Don't feel too bad I'm in the same boat. I did a couple ABA1 floors solo med last night and averaged about 30 mins for each one. Granted, I wasn't really hurrying, but I used to take a lot longer to do a solo med. It comes down to practicing "good" habits... Only killing for guardian doors, not running into DENK rooms, Resisting the urge to eke out skilling XP (though I do grab fish. Everything else I can leave behind, but I like having that backup pile of food. >.>) I never really thought too much about the fact there is a right way or wrong way to use gatestones. I'll have to take a look at those guides.

 

Food/amount of food you have is entirely worthless. If you die twice, but finish a floor in 10mins it's worth not fishing or even picking up food for that matter.

 

Gatestones really are key. Pun intended.

Survival isn't hard but the amount of time it takes to loot food, especially in gds where you can usually be using an ability every 3 ticks and thus losslessly loot at least a couple over the floor means you should really try and loot just a tiny bit. Don't cook food (fishing is great fish xp/hr if you care though) in general though. Looting food is partially theme and size dependent though. I find it easy to loot some food losslessly or as necessary but it's not something I have to focus on. Ideally you should keep your mind focused on what action in the floor you need to do next. I.e. ok, once this path ends I need to gt and run e n to try and finish that path. if my current path doesn't de I need to break my gate for here and gt. and will have to ht to run original gate at some point.

 

Do you unlock doors with gatestones? I've tried jamming them into keyholes to no avail. Can you help?

 

I entirely agree with the whole first part, I usually loot like 3-5 food, but only from GDs and if it's convenient Personally, my number one goal is to finish ASAP, so if I think I can complete the floor without food and it'd be fastest for me to not pick any up, I don't, but some floors necessitate food in order to complete the given floor quickly.

 

#feelsironically nooby because only has 54 dungeoneering

#butisproarrushing

#nottobecocky

[xpx]

Survivabiliy is really not even an issue in eoc solo as soul split usually heals you for more than you need anyway. Rarely do i pick any food and usually die every 10th floor or so, almost always because of big damage from skill thingy failure. The better you get the better you will be at avoiding damage.

[Tui]

#keyraceme [bleep]es xd swaggermuffins

[constrictor]

#keyraceme [bleep]es xd swaggermuffins

 

Challenge accepted.

[Troacctid]

Resisting the urge to eke out skilling XP (though I do grab fish. Everything else I can leave behind, but I like having that backup pile of food. >.>)

 

It absolutely is efficient to stop to fish, from a marginal standpoint. C2 fishing is the fastest pure fishing xp in the game. Stopping to fish in a dungeon you're already doing is like C2 fishing on crack--there's no xp penalty and you don't have to waste time on crappy C2 floors.

 

Same story with mining and woodcutting.

[Tui]

#keyraceme [bleep]es xd swaggermuffins

 

Challenge accepted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjnRCEQoPn0

 

My submission. I'm not sure what my main mission is, though.

[Hedgehog]

Resisting the urge to eke out skilling XP (though I do grab fish. Everything else I can leave behind, but I like having that backup pile of food. >.>)

 

It absolutely is efficient to stop to fish, from a marginal standpoint. C2 fishing is the fastest pure fishing xp in the game. Stopping to fish in a dungeon you're already doing is like C2 fishing on crack--there's no xp penalty and you don't have to waste time on crappy C2 floors.

 

Same story with mining and woodcutting.

You're right, unless you're in a large with other people. Then you just become an [wagon].

[Troacctid]

It absolutely is efficient to stop to fish, from a marginal standpoint. C2 fishing is the fastest pure fishing xp in the game. Stopping to fish in a dungeon you're already doing is like C2 fishing on crack--there's no xp penalty and you don't have to waste time on crappy C2 floors.

 

Same story with mining and woodcutting.

You're right, unless you're in a large with other people. Then you just become an [wagon].

Yeah, I guess that's an important caveat. Definitely good for solo though.

[constrictor]

#keyraceme [bleep]es xd swaggermuffins

 

Challenge accepted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjnRCEQoPn0

 

My submission. I'm not sure what my main mission is, though.

 

 

That was impressive, I'll try to figure out how to vid one of my floors and maybe do that this afternoon.

Out of curiosity, why walk? Does it really make so little difference?

 

I may try walking one, since I am always sprinting. :(

 

EDIT:

What did you record it with?

[Quyneax]

I think the walking is a subtle hint :P.

[constrictor]

I think the walking is a subtle hint :P.

 

Well, duh, I got that much, but like there are somethings where it is more efficient to walk (be able to scan rooms as doing other things and thus plan ahead more coherently) than to just be sprinting, etc. I tend to miss things occasionally when rushing.

 

But ye, Tui being Tui.

[Tui]

Sometimes I just like to take my time.

 

If you're looking from an efficiency standpoint (ignoring the walking), I executed that floor pretty badly, at least compared to how well I am expected to. Haven't dged much recently.

 

Recorded with fraps. You can rent tor-que at some electronic stores.

[Cerri]

So I can has fish? Yay! Ok Ok, I promise, fishing but no cooking >.>

 

I really do dislike DG. I can handle it a little easier solo, even though it will take a gazillion years for all the things I need apparently that cost tokens. Like some sort of chaotic weapon >.> And a demonhorn necklace. And herbicide. And now a charm thingy. :S

[Matey]

On the topic of dungeoneering solo, I was wondering if anyone knew the odds on obtaining primal stuff by yourself. I tried to do a few floors of dung on the <100 world, but my binds are a litte out of date considering I haven't really played properly since 2011, and I ended up getting hassled by two separate party leaders. More than a little offputting, so I figured I'd at least get my binds up to scratch before continuing.

 

I've tried running through some C6 smalls by myself (about 20), but each boss is a really low level. I've yet to encounter a high level boss, which'd make getting a primal anything pretty tricky. Would switching to mediums help, or is quantity of floors better than the 'quality'?

[xpx]

On the topic of dungeoneering solo, I was wondering if anyone knew the odds on obtaining primal stuff by yourself. I tried to do a few floors of dung on the <100 world, but my binds are a litte out of date considering I haven't really played properly since 2011, and I ended up getting hassled by two separate party leaders. More than a little offputting, so I figured I'd at least get my binds up to scratch before continuing.

 

I've tried running through some C6 smalls by myself (about 20), but each boss is a really low level. I've yet to encounter a high level boss, which'd make getting a primal anything pretty tricky. Would switching to mediums help, or is quantity of floors better than the 'quality'?

If the things you are looking for are relatively high level(occoult+) it is worth trying solo meds as they have about 1/6 chance to give t11 stuff. However, for lower dungeons, t11 stuff is rather rare. Maybe you can get a few friends to help out in trying to get the desired binds?

[Matey]

On the topic of dungeoneering solo, I was wondering if anyone knew the odds on obtaining primal stuff by yourself. I tried to do a few floors of dung on the <100 world, but my binds are a litte out of date considering I haven't really played properly since 2011, and I ended up getting hassled by two separate party leaders. More than a little offputting, so I figured I'd at least get my binds up to scratch before continuing.

 

I've tried running through some C6 smalls by myself (about 20), but each boss is a really low level. I've yet to encounter a high level boss, which'd make getting a primal anything pretty tricky. Would switching to mediums help, or is quantity of floors better than the 'quality'?

If the things you are looking for are relatively high level(occoult+) it is worth trying solo meds as they have about 1/6 chance to give t11 stuff. However, for lower dungeons, t11 stuff is rather rare. Maybe you can get a few friends to help out in trying to get the desired binds?

 

I don't have any friends who play anymore, unfortunately. Does doing meds increase the odds?

 

I'd ideally like to look for a maul which is only obtainable on lower level floors.

[Quyneax]

I know at least one other who needs a maul, if you're on tonight we can maybe get some hunts together :).

[Rinc3Wind]

On the topic of dungeoneering solo, I was wondering if anyone knew the odds on obtaining primal stuff by yourself. I tried to do a few floors of dung on the <100 world, but my binds are a litte out of date considering I haven't really played properly since 2011, and I ended up getting hassled by two separate party leaders. More than a little offputting, so I figured I'd at least get my binds up to scratch before continuing.

 

I've tried running through some C6 smalls by myself (about 20), but each boss is a really low level. I've yet to encounter a high level boss, which'd make getting a primal anything pretty tricky. Would switching to mediums help, or is quantity of floors better than the 'quality'?

 

I got my saggy shortbow by doing a solo. Never got one ever again, whether solo or in teams.