Powerfrog Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 You need 5 defense to wear spiny helm, and you need spiny helm to fight them. This is fixed in the newer game so you can only be assigned them if you have 5 defense or higher. I had to go to tureal.. I guess this is a Fix request/Rant... About 07. Didn't know where it belonged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demby123 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Yea slayer was a [bleep] prior to those updates... I think it should be patched, but either way it goes, burthroping isnt too bad, since some of his tasks have good substitutes for high lvls as well. I just did a ghost task on tormented souls and they're pretty good xp/drops. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seismos Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The game was never designed for pures, so it wasn't until later that there were any updates for pures. I think it should stay how it is, as it's currently exactly how it was always supposed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 The game was never designed for pures, so it wasn't until later that there were any updates for pures. I think it should stay how it is, as it's currently exactly how it was always supposed to work.I disagree. The lower defense players can't kill the enemies so shouldn't be assigned them. They aren't gaining anything from this. Do you think players should be assigned cave horrors who have not completed the quest to access them? It's the same thing, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The game was never designed for pures, so it wasn't until later that there were any updates for pures. I think it should stay how it is, as it's currently exactly how it was always supposed to work.I disagree. The lower defense players can't kill the enemies so shouldn't be assigned them. They aren't gaining anything from this. Do you think players should be assigned cave horrors who have not completed the quest to access them? It's the same thing, isn't it?Not really, no. Cave horrors require a quest. 5 def doesn't require any quests. You obviously wouldn't get assigned infernal mages with 10 slayer. But if you had 45, you wouldn't get assigned them if you didn't do priest in peirl. Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 The game was never designed for pures, so it wasn't until later that there were any updates for pures. I think it should stay how it is, as it's currently exactly how it was always supposed to work.I disagree. The lower defense players can't kill the enemies so shouldn't be assigned them. They aren't gaining anything from this. Do you think players should be assigned cave horrors who have not completed the quest to access them? It's the same thing, isn't it?Not really, no. Cave horrors require a quest. 5 def doesn't require any quests. You obviously wouldn't get assigned infernal mages with 10 slayer. But if you had 45, you wouldn't get assigned them if you didn't do priest in peirl.Why are level and quest requirements different? Both are a goal a player could get but doesn't necessarily have to. Both have nothing to do with the slayer skill as a whole and have no right to completely disable a player from training it. My biggest objection is that it's literally impossible to even attempt killing wall beasts with 1 defense. Cockatrices and basilisks are very very difficult/annoying to kill without mirror shield (20 defense) but at least you CAN do it. If going to tureal wasn't an option I would have been forced to remain 40 slayer forever because I choose to play in a certain style that is unrelated to the slayer skill. It's quite clearly an oversight made by jagex that was patched in the main game once they realized the mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 While I understand your concerns, I really don't think it's a big deal simply because you can Burthorpe the task. Now, if abyssal demons required defense to kill, that might be a little different :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 While I understand your concerns, I really don't think it's a big deal simply because you can Burthorpe the task. Now, if abyssal demons required defense to kill, that might be a little different :PYeah I agree. I got basilisks the next task after burphing wall beasts so I'll be going back there again. >.> I was hit with sheer panic when I considered the ability to burph difficult tasks may have been added later in the game or something, though, lol. It's not a big deal, but it certainly wouldn't be a bad idea to fix it with the same patches they did in the past. Nobody gains an advantage and nobody loses anything, it just removes a small inconvenience that only exists because of an oversight. I feel people always tend to "pick a side" when it comes to anything to do with pures and mains, and small stuff like this is fiercely contested by the other side as each thinks the opposite side is too privileged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The game was never designed for pures, so it wasn't until later that there were any updates for pures. I think it should stay how it is, as it's currently exactly how it was always supposed to work.I disagree. The lower defense players can't kill the enemies so shouldn't be assigned them. They aren't gaining anything from this. Do you think players should be assigned cave horrors who have not completed the quest to access them? It's the same thing, isn't it?Not really, no. Cave horrors require a quest. 5 def doesn't require any quests. You obviously wouldn't get assigned infernal mages with 10 slayer. But if you had 45, you wouldn't get assigned them if you didn't do priest in peirl.Why are level and quest requirements different? Both are a goal a player could get but doesn't necessarily have to. Both have nothing to do with the slayer skill as a whole and have no right to completely disable a player from training it. My biggest objection is that it's literally impossible to even attempt killing wall beasts with 1 defense. Cockatrices and basilisks are very very difficult/annoying to kill without mirror shield (20 defense) but at least you CAN do it. If going to tureal wasn't an option I would have been forced to remain 40 slayer forever because I choose to play in a certain style that is unrelated to the slayer skill. It's quite clearly an oversight made by jagex that was patched in the main game once they realized the mistake."i dont have 40 attack but i want to wield a rune scimmy. change it so i just need 40 str" I agree that it is an oversight, as you NEED to have 5 def to kill them, and there is no other way to do that, but the mentality of not being able to access everything as a pure who limits oneself to 1 def or 1 pray is quite ignorant. Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 No but like he mentioned before it's the same concept as not being able to get assigned Cave Horror's if you haven't done the quest to access them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The game was never designed for pures, so it wasn't until later that there were any updates for pures. I think it should stay how it is, as it's currently exactly how it was always supposed to work.I disagree. The lower defense players can't kill the enemies so shouldn't be assigned them. They aren't gaining anything from this. Do you think players should be assigned cave horrors who have not completed the quest to access them? It's the same thing, isn't it?Not really, no. Cave horrors require a quest. 5 def doesn't require any quests. You obviously wouldn't get assigned infernal mages with 10 slayer. But if you had 45, you wouldn't get assigned them if you didn't do priest in peirl.Why are level and quest requirements different? Both are a goal a player could get but doesn't necessarily have to. Both have nothing to do with the slayer skill as a whole and have no right to completely disable a player from training it. My biggest objection is that it's literally impossible to even attempt killing wall beasts with 1 defense. Cockatrices and basilisks are very very difficult/annoying to kill without mirror shield (20 defense) but at least you CAN do it. If going to tureal wasn't an option I would have been forced to remain 40 slayer forever because I choose to play in a certain style that is unrelated to the slayer skill. It's quite clearly an oversight made by jagex that was patched in the main game once they realized the mistake."i dont have 40 attack but i want to wield a rune scimmy. change it so i just need 40 str" I agree that it is an oversight, as you NEED to have 5 def to kill them, and there is no other way to do that, but the mentality of not being able to access everything as a pure who limits oneself to 1 def or 1 pray is quite ignorant.No. He doesn't want to kill them, he wants stop being assigned tasks that are literally impossible to complete with his current levels. The whole point of slayer, the different masters, monsters of differing difficulty divisions (alliteration yo) etc, is to progress as your skills progress... 1 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 "i dont have 40 attack but i want to wield a rune scimmy. change it so i just need 40 str" I agree that it is an oversight, as you NEED to have 5 def to kill them, and there is no other way to do that, but the mentality of not being able to access everything as a pure who limits oneself to 1 def or 1 pray is quite ignorant. He doesn't want to be able to kill them with 1 defHe wants to NOT BE ASSIGNED THEM, much like you can't be assigned monsters you don't have the quest to access. Where you pulled that crap "40 atk for rune scimmy" example from I don't even want to know. 1 An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietdepiet Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Clues also assign tasks that a player may not be able to do, even in EoCscape if I am right. I remember getting a clue to dig in the fishing guild when I had 40ish fishing. According to your reasoning this is a bug in EoCscape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 No, because a clue scroll isn't a SKILLSomeone being assigned a Slayer task they physically cannot do directly makes it Impossible for them to train Slayer. A clue scroll, much Like Quests, is something you unlock the ability to do as you train your skills. YOUR reasoning is the same as saying "I got a D-Med from a drop, but can't wear it until 60 defence, it's a glitch" Getting a task you can't do for Slayer, is like removing the option to Cut normal Trees, but leaving Oak at level 15. 1 An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouwzie Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Well, this is not a problem anymore. Was fixed in today's update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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