Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I can't do anything cool. :( Fairy rings - Requires quest that gives defense. Enjoy walking everywhere.Magic secateurs - Requires quest that gives defense. Farming skill essentially none-profit without them.Significantly faster barrows trips - Requires quest that gives defense. Barely worth doing such a long travel.Chicken shrine black dragons - Requires quest that gives defense. Those are just the none PVP things. Pures can't use veng and miss out on about +13 strength +12 accuracy worth of offensive melee equipment. Plus our supplies cost more than our loots in the wildy. ...I'm struggling to stay motivated and remain a pure. Comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leik Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Try not being a pure. But really, that's just one of the many, many silly limits pure have decided to make themselves suffer through. Not much we or Jagex can do about it. LIVERPOOL WILL WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE THIS SEASON. [01:24:34] CJ Hunnicutt: it takes skill to be that [bleep]ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Nana Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Why would you want to be motivated to be a pure in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 I guess I just wanted to PVP at lower levels without having to spend months questing and training to have the essentials like b gloves and veng for optimal pking. But I actually don't want to pure PVP anyway because without high risk wildy it's full of 1 item scrubs that drop nothing of value. ...Yeah I think I'm just going to become 40 defense now. (quested of course.) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I've thought about starting to quest for defence for a while now, but what put me off is all the new stuff I have to do just to be competitive again. I mean, right now, I got all the gear down, and just have to train my stats, but if I do decide to become a zerker, i'd have to get torso, barrows gloves, rune defender, etc. I just don't have time for that right now, so I decided to stay 1 def and train up a bit more then see where it takes me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 ^B gloves take a week, torso/firecape/defender only take a day. Vengeance is the most annoying thing to get but even that isn't too hard. Always seemed pointless to me to make a pure just to pk DDS's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 The way I see it, if you're only going to play with one account...Don't make a Pure...Tank...Zerker...ANYTHING really other than just a main account. Specialty accounts I've always seen as something on the SIDE to do for fun, while having a main account you can do everything on. An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Been saying this since day 1. Pures were only effective when:-Armor didnt give str bonuses-People were naive enough to wander into the wild w/ expensive equipment w/o knowing how to PK or intending on PK'ing-Pures were a minority instead of 99% of the wild's population In other words, before 2005-2006 :P Rune pures are the best PK'ing build atm, mostly because they're super-effective against 1 def pures, Pokemon style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubs Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 The pure novelty wears off quick, they just aren't as effective as they once were in most cases. That being said, "NH" hybridding was extremely fun, and will make a return on these servers I'm sure. You could look forward to that? Speaking of that, one of my all time favorite PK vids is actually a NH pure in pvp worlds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxLdoxNVK0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Why is he switching every attack turn if they don't even switch their prayer? (often times they go to the attack style they're praying against) An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Why is he switching every attack turn if they don't even switch their prayer? (often times they go to the attack style they're praying against)It's a mndgame when it comes to predicting prayer switches. Sometimes by switching to mage randomly stops your enemy from protecting against melee giving you the opportunity to spec them out next hit. It's impractical to change attack styles AFTER they switch prayers if they're good as they can just change back. The way I see it, if you're only going to play with one account...Don't make a Pure...Tank...Zerker...ANYTHING really other than just a main account. Specialty accounts I've always seen as something on the SIDE to do for fun, while having a main account you can do everything on. I intend on becoming 70/99/70 eventually and dharoks pking 24/7. The reason I don't obtain these stats ASAP is because I'd be one of the few people that had that level and wanted to pk for dharoks in the wildy. I'd have to wait months as more slowly reached my level. PVM has nothing to offer my in Old School so it's only logical I'd build my 1 account into an optimal PK account. 70/99/70 is best because you'll end up fighting people that are 80/85/80, who expect you to be similar, and don't heal as much as they should on a 99 strength opponent. Just FYI... Pures are very effective. A maxed 60 attack pure can destroy anything at it's combat level with ease, including low lever rune pures or range tanks. It's just that they don't really get to fight anything other than pures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 70/99/70 is best because you'll end up fighting people that are 80/85/80, who expect you to be similar, and don't heal as much as they should on a 99 strength opponent. Don't count on that lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 70/99/70 is best because you'll end up fighting people that are 80/85/80, who expect you to be similar, and don't heal as much as they should on a 99 strength opponent. Don't count on that lol.What i mean is some opponents will have less than optimal stats, whilst i have truly optimal stats, so overall I have an advantage over the average enemy at my combat level. Something that isn't true if I'm 99/99/99 fighting others that are also 99/99/99. Even those that do safe to the correct amount vs a 99 strength opponent are disadvantaged as they can't complain when i do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I just meant that you won't see too many people with stats like that in the wild, those are stats you would see more at the arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demby123 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Is this your first pure ever or are you just trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 I've had several high level pures but I always had a main to fund them... I never really realized pures can't do stuff like farming or barrows or fairy rings, as my pures stayed in edgeville 24/7 and didn't concern themselves with that stuff. It's more a commentary on how pures suffer for none combat related things. And I'm genuinely trying to decide to remain pure or not. (I don't have the time or willpower to have a main and pures on this server.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I think you'd be a lot more satisfied with a zerker moving up to 70 defence when you're high enough strength. I maxed a 60 attack 1 def pure a while ago, and while it is fun to play - unless you're really good at bridding or are heavily involved in the pure clan war scene then it does get tiring and you get jealous of all the cool stuff people with defence get to do... If i was you i'd get your str and range up to 70 real quick and just pk til you get bored - then start a new account to be a zerker. That way you can still hop on your pure for some quick fun whilst you're waiting to completey gear your zerker with all the untradables. 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Screw it I've begun questing, did natures grotto which makes me 13 defense. If I ever want a pure I can always make a new account. "Mr frogger" is my main in EOC so it makes sense to have it as my main in Old school. I could technically be a 13 defense pure and be able to do some of the stuff i wanted (fast barrows + magic secateurs and fairy rings) but god no... It's 40 defense or nothing. Dat vengeance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 You mean 45 def? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 You mean 45 def?Naa. The extra combat isn't worth a +3 strength hat that costs 50k more than rune helm, which is a significant cost considering there are no high risk worlds or expensive spec weps, so every fight will be <200k risk/profit. 45 def puts you at a disadvantage for profitable PKing at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 IIRC if you complete all the "good" def quests you'll be put at 45 def anyways. Heroes, MM, dragon slayer, frem trials, etc I dont think profitable pking exists right now anyways though since everyone just drops a DDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 IIRC if you complete all the "good" def quests you'll be put at 45 def anyways.Heroes, MM, dragon slayer, frem trials, etcHoly grail is only needed for obtaining piety which you need 65+ def to get anyway. Olaf's isn't useful at all. Defender of varrock (pre-quest for TDs and Curses) obviously no longer needed, though it does give a decent training area. Between a rock isn't useful at all. Honestly, the only ones that are very useful are Monkey Madness, Dragon Slayer, Nature Spirit, In search of the myreque, Heroes Quest... Not doing the others doesn't disadvantage you in any significant way, just removes some easy quest points you'll have to get elsewhere for B gloves. edit: Crap I just realized the essentials I listed give you 41 defense, lol. My point on zerk having an impractical cost still stands though so I intend on staying 41 defense and pking with a rune full helm. Edit edit: By my own reasoning Barrows gloves are not worth using over rune gloves, so you could not claim the MM reward and just stick to rune gloves at 40 defense... I'm so confused as to what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 If you're going 41 def, get 42 for training with void... 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 If you're going 41 def, get 42 for training with void...Meh think I'll just go 45 def to simplify things. Cool to have the literal max strength gear anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Hard Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 If you're going 41 def, get 42 for training with void...Meh think I'll just go 45 def to simplify things. Cool to have the literal max strength gear anyway. Even if you dont want to use a zerker helm - 1 or 2 combat levels, even in edge, really isn't as important as jagex's RNG dicerolls... 'Rock Hard' boss pure - 60/60 Attack | 99/99 Range | 1/1 Defence | 44/44 Prayer | 99/99 Strength | 99/99 Mage - level 79 combat EOC ## '07 Server ## "Best Runescape update ever: Removing 6 years of updates." "Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all that claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think every thing you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told to want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic. You have been warned- Tyler" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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