Powerfrog Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Well when OS was released there were no torsos so i thought void would be sweet. But of course torsos were released and by memory of void being sweet was based on memories of what it did to chaotic's already high numbers. So basically, which hits better, max strength or void? Using the primary weapons D scim and Whip... Wanna know accuracy and strength difference. As an aside, does Salve (e) stack with void? (or black mask?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Max str is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 And you can't wear black mask with void, dont know if salve stacks with void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigilant Foe Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Void should be better, especially on low level enemies To answer your question, Void is calculated at a different time than Salve Amulet (e). Void is used in the calculation of your effective level, whereas Salve Amulet or Black Mask is used as a multiplier when calculating your accuracy roll. If you want to check for yourself and play around with values, here's a copy of a prototype DPS spreadsheet I made https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoh7dk208QArdGNEeUtfMEpUdEozbkFLU2NxdTRFWnc#gid=0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 ok, so using a maxed zerker potted stats (69 attack 112 strength, 15% prayers) and max possible offensive items (zerk ring, fury, ect).56 defense is chosen as this is a brewed zerkers defense, defense prayer is not used as it often isn't in wildy. Void - Dragon ScimitarMax hit = 36DPS on 1 defense 0 slash defense 7.54639355742297DPS on 56 defense 0 slash defense 6.65572478991597DPS on 56 defense 250 slash defense 2.90903662420382Max strength - Dragon ScimitarMax hit = 37DPS on 1 defense 0 slash defense 7.74822695035461DPS on 56 defense 0 slash defense 6.8218085106383DPS on 56 defense 250 slash defense 2.94984076433121Same as above but with 80 attack (70 base to wield whip + pot) Void - WhipMax hit = 40DPS on 1 defense 0 slash defense 8.40024834437086DPS on 56 defense 0 slash defense 7.62244757174393DPS on 56 defense 250 slash defense 4.09401539278132DPS on 118 defense 360 slash defense w/Piety 1.2529442820013Max strength - WhipMax hit = 41DPS on 1 defense 0 slash defense 8.60068259385666DPS on 56 defense 0 slash defense 7.77943686006826DPS on 56 defense 250 slash defense 4.06847133757962DPS on 118 defense 360 slash defense w/Piety 1.24512670565302 Wow... Ok, so strength gear is best for low defense by quite a bit. But as you can see, void is very slightly better against an armoured zerker and very high defense, not that it'd be worth the armour loss for practical PVP purposes. Please take all this with a grain of salt, I'm just playing around with stuff for my own satisfaction. I feel kinda dumb for spending all this time getting void now. I guess I'll get range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigilant Foe Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ah, I see. I didn't know what values it should be exactly so I didn't bother playing around much. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I feel kinda dumb for spending all this time getting void now. I guess I'll get range...If it makes you feel better, thanks for doing the calculations for us :P 1 In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis1330 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Void melee best for w6 bandos ffa. Now you're ready to camp when gwd comes. I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 Void melee best for w6 bandos ffa. Now you're ready to camp when gwd comes.Not even true because if you were doing that you'd rely on spec weapons (that are better in every way with strength gear) or range anyway. Not that I'd ever ever mass a boss that can be easily duo'd or more easily crashed in a world with fewer noobs. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Void melee best for w6 bandos ffa. Now you're ready to camp when gwd comes.Not even true because if you were doing that you'd rely on spec weapons (that are better in every way with strength gear) or range anyway. Not necessarily, since in W6 bandos, you had time for 1 hit...that's it.That's all you had. Accuracy was much more important as a result. No one ranging got any bandos kills in w6 An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycdcm Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Void melee best for w6 bandos ffa. Now you're ready to camp when gwd comes.Not even true because if you were doing that you'd rely on spec weapons (that are better in every way with strength gear) or range anyway. Not necessarily, since in W6 bandos, you had time for 1 hit...that's it.That's all you had. Accuracy was much more important as a result. No one ranging got any bandos kills in w6I can assure you that "Peli Kan 2" as a lev 79, 1 defence pure with d-bow got quite a few w6 bandos kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 "You have time for 1 hit per kill" Exactly... Which is what makes specs best. With the number of people attempting it, getting a fairly reliable 30+ with whip isn't going to be very useful, you have to rely on a lucky 50+ DDS or halberd. (Or dbow, thus range) I'm pretty sure old school count the xp gained from hitting the enemy and not "actual damage"... IE if your hit lands but the damage was unessessary for the kill, you still get the loot if you got the xp of a higher hit than others. Anyway. If GWD ever came to old school I'd probably be too busy crying with joy to login for the first few weeks when it has that kind of hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigilant Foe Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Void melee best for w6 bandos ffa. Now you're ready to camp when gwd comes.Not even true because if you were doing that you'd rely on spec weapons (that are better in every way with strength gear) or range anyway. Not necessarily, since in W6 bandos, you had time for 1 hit...that's it.That's all you had. Accuracy was much more important as a result. No one ranging got any bandos kills in w6However, Dragon Claws special was the single most accurate attack in the entire game :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I'm not sure how the accuracy of the D Claw spec is relevant to this. lucky 50+ DDS or halberdWhich you're much more likely to get while wearing void because you'll actually HIT that hit more times than not. An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 I'm not sure how the accuracy of the D Claw spec is relevant to this. lucky 50+ DDS or halberdWhich you're much more likely to get while wearing void because you'll actually HIT that hit more times than not.No, void makes you 10% more accurate, but you sacrifice +12 slash of b gloves. So it's only really more accurate when using whip. With low base accuracy such as DDS the strength gear is better in every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl DjPon3 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Didn't people primarily use the D Hally for the single Spec? 1 An old player from 2004-2011. I'm back for the 2007 servers, let's see how long this lasts.My account's display name used to be Sir Izenhime Stupid Should Hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Whoa i forgot how high d hally stats were, yeah void would be best with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieven Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 ags "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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