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Play time these days is somewhat limited and erratic so I usually just log on to do PoP and QBD. I'm getting a little bored of QBDing and was wondering what other monsters are worthwhile to kill. I wouldn't mind a bit of variation.

 

My combat stats are:

 

Attack: 99

Strength: 99

Defence: 99

Constitution: 99

Ranged: 99

Magic: 93

Prayer: 95

Summoning: 91

 

For melee gear, I have Torag's armour and CRapier/EEE; ranged is Karil's and dual Chaotic Crossbows. My best mage robes are... Batwing... With a Polypore Staff.

 

As I can't play to a fairly stable schedule, I'm looking for something I can just fight by myself (plus in all honesty I've found over the years I just like playing solo). So KK is out because it's non solo and I don't really have the gear for it; Nex is out because I don't have the gear for it. What are Glacors like for money? I see the boots are quite valuable. And automatons? Are they a viable choice? Are some GWD bosses a decent choice if I hire a private room?

 

I guess I'm trying to build up a cashpile as my gear is a little welfare at the minute. I currently have 40M; what gear should I be aiming to get? Bear in mind I'll just be using it for PvM like I am now. After the recent gear changes I invested in Armadyl but didn't find it made QBD any quicker at all really, so sold it and I'm sticking to Karil's. I guess I should aim for Pernix or something, but the price of the Nex-dropped armour is a little off putting and it'll take me quite a while to afford that.

 

Also...

 

Currently the QBD takes me about ~4:20 to kill (judging by the fact I usually get the 30 second prayer renewal notification around about the time I loot the coffer). Using Kari'ls and dual Chaotic Crossbows (Royal Bolts), is this a good time? Is there gear I could be using (that I can afford) to speed up my kills? I find her hit and miss at times - in quite a literal sense - sometimes I find her very difficult to get any hits on and she gives me real trouble, other times I tear through her. I guess there's a lot of luck involved in the fight.

 

EDIT: For the record, I have Curses and Overloads. I'm also aiming to get 96 summoning for a Yak at some point soonish; not sure I fancy the extra effort for 99, though.

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You have the stats for high level pvm, but not the gear (or the time by the sounds of things). One thing you may be interested in is void, but not sure how good it actually is now.

 

GWD- Really isn't great for money, prices aren't fantastic unless you're getting Sara Hilts, Bcps or the like. I'm not sure how different all four bosses are since the update (I myself just about managed with death lotus & royal xbow on task at Arma with soul split, so gear of a lower tier may struggle).

 

Nex - You aren't too far off the right gear for this. It seems right now, that the best Nex gear is a hybrid of Mage and Range, using Mage for most of the kill, ranging the minions. You'd need to upgrade to at least Gano to be able to fit in teams for that.

 

That being said, Glacors would probably be good for you. I believe they are doable with T70 gear using soul split, but I'd have to check that (or if anyone actually does this?) - I'm personally not great at Glacors (ragequit after 30 hours dry, gf me). That being said, they are excellent mage exp & charms should you get good at them (good as you said you are aiming for a Yak). Boots are still fairly good gp, but rare as [bleep] (for me anyway).

 

Automatons - Fairly fun sort of pvm, you can kill them quickly with Royal Crossbow. Something I'd highly recommend as it is far superior to your dual CCbows. Gloves command a high price, in the region of 20-30m atm (slowly dropping though) and the other drops chip in to make it around 1m/h.

 

QBD - She is a very very hit and miss boss. Sometimes you can tear her apart (no green carapaces) in repeated kills, othertimes she will be an absolute troll (spamming fire waves, super fire and tormented souls/timestop on the last phase). Honestly, good QBD times are 2 minutes 30 sec and down. But this is with drygores and torva/void. In your gear, I'd probably look to get below 4 minutes per kill - there were times when I could just do two kills/ovl dose ranging QBD, but this was rare.

 

To upgrade your gear, for the immediate future Barrows is fine (upgrade to bandos/armadyl/gano when you have the cash), and you can stick out at Glacors and the like until you have money. I would upgrade from Batwing to Gano asap, then hit up Glacors, getting charms and a steady influx of GP until you have the shards for an Armadyl BStaff (buying one is near enough pointless). Alternatively, you could look to Dungeoneering - getting a Cmaul and a Cstaff. Cmaul is your best melee weapon until dual drygores (or mainhand drygore and eee). Cstaff is the best 2h mage weapon, vying against Virtus Wand & Book for the best mage weapons over all. You should get a Royal Crossbow asap too - you seem to be able to do QBD, so this shouldn't be too difficult. I believe the pieces cost around 500-600k atm, so it isn't much. It's your best range dps until you can get a Zaryte.

 

In the long term, your upgrades ought to be drygores, Gwd sets (Nex or normal, for the dps boosts) and attaining PoP gear.

 

Hope this helps :)

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Royal crossbow isn't far superior to dual chaotic crossbows... same tier, and dw crossbows have a better 5s basic. Rxb is just a bit cheaper to use. QBD times under 2:30 are no longer the norm since the update, afaik even drygores will miss a fair bit now.

 

Anyway, glacors are good. But I'd still recommend cstaff at least.

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Very helpful :)

 

Well it sounds like Glacors are a good start, so hopefully I'll get the chance to give them a go tonight!

 

I realised after reading these replies that I have Ahrim's lying around in my bank, but I see that Ganodermic armour's T75 and not too expensive so I'll maybe upgrade to that.

 

I don't know if I have the time of the patience to get a Chaotic Staff and I'll just settle for Armadyl Battlestaff once I collect enough shards for it. In the mean time, what's a good alternative to use? All I have currently is a Polypore staff which probably won't cut it there. Looking at a chart of mage weapons, I'm guessing SoL?

 

Is it really worth me getting a RXB? I know it's not that expensive (although the individual parts are selling for double their GE value at the minute), but it does seem a little redundant. I meant to ask this in my original post actually, but what about an RXB is better than CXBs?

 

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For QBD 4:20 with ranged is about right. You will see an improvement switching to melee, even switching to crapier + eee (t8 + t8.9). With drygores you should average 3 minutes or less per kill at 99 attack. I'm currently unsure how void's damage bonus fared in the last armor update.

 

For Glacors don't try them without a t8 mage weapon, even with an ABS I found myself missing enough to be frustrated, SoL was terrible.

 

Automatons on task with drygores and full bandos (and FSH ofc) are 220+ kph and fairly decent for their normal loot (1.2 mil per hour) plus gloves as a bonus.


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I don't really think sub 3 minute QBD average is possible anymore, I've been getting like 2:50-3:30 with bandos+drygores+spec rests and not dodging any attacks.

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What about using treachery and ahrim's book at glacors?

 

You'll miss far to often for it to be worth your time.


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What about using treachery and ahrim's book at glacors?

 

You'll miss far to often for it to be worth your time.

When's the last time you went to glacors actually and tried to beat them with a t70 setup? I just did this last night and had gano with SOL and I did pretty well I thought. faster kills than when I tried last which was a little over a month ago...

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What about using treachery and ahrim's book at glacors?

 

You'll miss far to often for it to be worth your time.

When's the last time you went to glacors actually and tried to beat them with a t70 setup? I just did this last night and had gano with SOL and I did pretty well I thought. faster kills than when I tried last which was a little over a month ago...

 

Last week. T7.5 is still a significant improvement over t7. I went after the accuracy update last week and at 90 mage t7 was awful, t7.5 was frustrating and t8 was obviously the best and rarely missed.


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Huh, weird. I guess 93 mage (now 94 I levelled) makes a difference now? It wasn't that bad killing them for me, took about a minute per kill, which seems decent to me. Yeah, obviously t8 is going to be the best and rarely miss, haha.

Anyway this makes me curious, were you potting/using fire surge? If not that might be the biggest difference.

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Minute per kill is about 20-40%% longer than what you would get pre-update with t80, iirc. I wasn't able to use Asphyxiate three times per kill, usually once right at the start, then again right at the end (20 second cooldown), or just once, in the middle somewhere.

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Huh, weird. I guess 93 mage (now 94 I levelled) makes a difference now? It wasn't that bad killing them for me, took about a minute per kill, which seems decent to me. Yeah, obviously t8 is going to be the best and rarely miss, haha.

Anyway this makes me curious, were you potting/using fire surge? If not that might be the biggest difference.

 

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I gave 'em a go. I didn't find accuracy too bad using Polypore Staff, but they're a bit of a pain in the rear. My poor laptop doesn't run anything too well these days, so I'm running on bare minimum pretty much which makes the tri icicle attack that does 30% or whatever of your max HP impossible to differentiate between the regular single icicle attacks.

 

I didn't really enjoy it all that much, but I only killed about 10. I think I'll keep trying until I've fine tuned my setup and gotten the hang of it and see how I go from there. It would be nice if I could get into the groove to train my mage there and gather charms.

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just stay low LP and don't bother dodging the icicle attack, it's half your current lifepoints so it's not a big deal at low LP.

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Ah ok. I thought it hit based on your max LP, not current. Thanks.

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  • 11 months later...

 

 

 

 

 

What about using treachery and ahrim's book at glacors?

 

You'll miss far to often for it to be worth your time.

When's the last time you went to glacors actually and tried to beat them with a t70 setup? I just did this last night and had gano with SOL and I did pretty well I thought. faster kills than when I tried last which was a little over a month ago...

Last week. T7.5 is still a significant improvement over t7. I went after the accuracy update last week and at 90 mage t7 was awful, t7.5 was frustrating and t8 was obviously the best and rarely missed.
What's the best Mage level to fight glacors? And what weps are good to not fairly miss?
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Uhh seeing as this is about glacors now:

 

Aim for ~25 second kills. Sunshine at start of every 3rd kill. When on a kill that doesnt start with sunshine, wild magic first half. Always asphyxiate second half. 

 

If you need any glacor advice, add me "Fails at RS" and i can show you a few tricks I picked up in my 1000000 hours (not really, 150 at most) of doing them.

 

I didn't even know there was an accuracy update huh, use chaotic staff or arma staff if you dont have that. Or abyssal wand thing.

 

Probably most important part of doing glacors for xp:

 

do not let the unstable (red) glacyte explode. you will gain less xp if it explodes, as the xp you gain is based on the percent of the health of the monster you inflicted, and the explosion is self-inflicted damage.

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The name you have listed on your forum account isn't on the high scores for whatever reason so my 2 cents is if you have 85 Dungeoneering then go camp Frost Dragons. They're VERY easy/quick kills and the bones always stay at around 15-16k each so it's pretty consistent cash. It's easier to camp with Magic Notepaper, I can make a trip of about 250 bones easily, and I'm not quite maxed stats just yet.

 

 

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