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Book is nice, I enjoyed a couple of the tasks - creating the artifact for the skill based one in particular. That said there wasn't really much there, and emissaries was the only update from the BTS that had the potential for any degree of substance. I assume game content is suffering because of RS3, although I feel like I've been making excuses for why game content is so lacking for the better part of a year now...

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My thoughts on the book's info

 

[spoiler=Armadyl]Armadyl's private diary of him wandering aimlessly to meditate on the death of the Aviansie. He walks around a lot, gets poked at by random insects, and feels weak (until the edicts are broken and he plans to return).

 

 

[spoiler=Bandos]Bandos sends letters to every single Goblin clan that follows him, telling them that all the other clans are stockpiling weapons and are plotting to defeat them. Informs them to stockpile weapons and prepare to fight the others. Essentially, he's smarter than he looks--he wants constant bloodshed, even if it means killing his own followers. He abuses the goblins' stupidity against them.

 

 

[spoiler=Zamorak]Moia finds Zamorak in a realm of Chaos after the events of her story in the Dungeoneering tales. Zamorak teaches her the way of Chaos, shows her how things become stagnant if no change is applied. He burns down a village in a random plane, and shows her how the people band together and form leaders through the strife. Moia decides to spread his word.

 

 

[spoiler=Saradomin]A bunch of Icyene quarrel a bit about farming and stuff but Saradomin steps in and tells them to fight for him. Apparently they would prefer to be peaceful, but Saradomin motivates them to war. What a jerk.

 

 

[spoiler=Zaros]A chronicle of Zaros' followers before and during the God Wars. As the godwars started, his followers retreated to the wilderness fortresses. Most of them died during the God Wars, but those that remained stayed true. The last part is his most senior follower, who realizes Zaros' true purpose---when he returns, he won't care about his previous followers. He will take interest in whoever will best execute his plan. He has no care for loyalty. Ends in a VERY interesting quote--that she sees a throne in a realm of shadows, but that noone sits on it. She says that he is there--in the nothingness. The empty throne is occupied by him--for he is the Empty Lord and rules without directly influencing. Apparently it implies that he has no real physical form, and never has.

 

 

[spoiler=Sliske]A bunch of tales talking about how the Desert Gods fought for Zaros, commanded by the Mahjarrat. Sliske's fighting style is described a lot, and he is generally called shadowy and deceitful. Nothing much about his current plans

 

 

[spoiler=Seren]She and her followers originally came from a plane of Crystal (essentially giant crystal cities floating in space) Guthix forced her to leave the world when the Edicts were created--in a very angry way that had none of the love he once felt for her. She wanted only to protect her people and live without the influence of the warring gods--she had no part in the God Wars. She decides to comply with Guthix because of the love she still feels for him, and instead splits herself into billions of pieces of crystal to be used as weapons and tools by the elves. The elves want to bring all of these shards together to re-create her, or open the World Gate to go back to their world to try and summon her again. Seems like the most peaceful of the gods.

 

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So how do keepsaked weapons actually work?

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Exactly as other keepsaked worn items - by activating them from that tab. Further than that I'm not sure what you're asking. So far it seems they can only be used with the same weapon type, IE longsword for longsword. You may have a 1-hand or 2-hand weapon and an off-hand or shield, but that's it - you can't get an off-hand and shield, for example.

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I was quite disappointed on the godless faction.

Not what I expected it to be.

I'm gonna go with either Seren or Sliske, not much known but better than godless. And the other gods were douches in TWW.

 

I think they pretty much had to make the Godless disappointing--if they were as appealing as they were in TWW, 70% of players would pick them.

 

I'm glad I found a god, at least. I was originally going to be one of the Godless, but I just find Seren so appealing after all this lore.

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Not sure if it came with this update, but the official wiki has been updated with a ton of god-related content and lore.

 

http://services.rune...=rswiki/en/Gods

They have the bandos and zaros colors mixed up on that map, that or apparently the ogres of Oo'glog are very secretive of their worship of the Empty Lord. Speaking of which, I'm considering following Seren instead, though I'm doing the tasks for Zaros (Not that it matters); not digging the whole fascism vibe. That was there before, but it seems much more blatent now with this bunch of new lore, Seren just seems the most caring about us mortals.

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*reading Book of Bandos*

 

Wow, Bandos is a douche.

But he is consistent, I appreciate that.

 

Saradomin is annoying, I actually find Zamorak more reasonable. Saradomin seems really Christian to me, a jealous god etc. - Zamorak would at least recognize that other gods simply took opportunities, even if he disagreed with the lot.

 

Also, Zaros as god of Fate, me likes. That's an important job.

 

On the map with worshippers, Meirditch is Saradominist. Interesting - apparently the vyre god is not the biggest there. Not surprising considering the numbers, but the power balance is definitely in favour of vyres.

 

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On the whole, the lore aspect seems unbalanced. It is hard to tell the difference between different gods sometimes. I read:

Bandos - War, fighting, basically for fun? Easy message, understood. Also the (physically?) strongest should rule, which is basically a non-policy where gods are concerned, because there's no way he can enforce that.

Seren - Hide away from trouble in an impregnable fortress/city. Understood. Protect followers - ok.

Godless - Gods go home. Understood. Protect ourselves.

Saradomin - Banish all other gods. Understood. Protect followers.

Zamorak - Go for what you want, do what you want, sort of individualistic, opportunistic philisophy. Understood.

Armadyl - Will protect everyone following him? That's what all the others promise as well.

Sliske - Uh... what? Unknown plans, questionable divinity.

Zaros - It's been preordained, but his plans are beyond us. Not war or destruction anyway.

 

The last three in particular are a big vague. The first five are good.

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Yeah I like the lore about Zamorak but i'm a zammy-fanboi anyhow.

 

Self-improvement through autonomy is what it means to me (lore)

 

just mah opinionz not debating n stuff

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I was quite disappointed on the godless faction.

Not what I expected it to be.

I'm gonna go with either Seren or Sliske, not much known but better than godless. And the other gods were douches in TWW.

 

I think they pretty much had to make the Godless disappointing--if they were as appealing as they were in TWW, 70% of players would pick them.

 

I'm glad I found a god, at least. I was originally going to be one of the Godless, but I just find Seren so appealing after all this lore.

Yeah true.

I'm sticking with Seren for now.

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I'm gonna go with either Seren or Sliske, not much known but better than godless. And the other gods were douches in TWW.

I think they had more of a wasted opportunity in Saradomin. Zamorak went from basically a god of evil to a god of progress through hardship, and defines chaos as both instability and opportunity. He has evil methods but a good goal. Then you have Saradomin and order, where you could expect the same kind of depth, right? Have it so that he represents both stability and tyranny? NOPE LET'S MAKE HIM A PAPER-THIN CHRISTIAN STRAWMAN LOLOL :wall:

 

I mean, come on. The guy has been one of the major three gods for the game's entire history, and they made him about as one-dimensional as the chaotic stupid Bandos. I wasn't actually planning on siding with him (Armadyl! And maybe Seren if Big Bird gets his goals retconned a la Guthix and Saradomin!), but I kind of expected better. This is supposed to be a conflict with multiple well-developed sides, isn't it?

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I was quite disappointed on the godless faction.

Not what I expected it to be.

I'm gonna go with either Seren or Sliske, not much known but better than godless. And the other gods were douches in TWW.

 

I think they pretty much had to make the Godless disappointing--if they were as appealing as they were in TWW, 70% of players would pick them.

 

I'm glad I found a god, at least. I was originally going to be one of the Godless, but I just find Seren so appealing after all this lore.

Yeah true.

I'm sticking with Seren for now.

Why the Godless is disappointing?

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I'm gonna go with either Seren or Sliske, not much known but better than godless. And the other gods were douches in TWW.

I think they had more of a wasted opportunity in Saradomin. Zamorak went from basically a god of evil to a god of progress through hardship, and defines chaos as both instability and opportunity. He has evil methods but a good goal. Then you have Saradomin and order, where you could expect the same kind of depth, right? Have it so that he represents both stability and tyranny? NOPE LET'S MAKE HIM A PAPER-THIN CHRISTIAN STRAWMAN LOLOL :wall:

 

I mean, come on. The guy has been one of the major three gods for the game's entire history, and they made him about as one-dimensional as the chaotic stupid Bandos. I wasn't actually planning on siding with him (Armadyl! And maybe Seren if Big Bird gets his goals retconned a la Guthix and Saradomin!), but I kind of expected better. This is supposed to be a conflict with multiple well-developed sides, isn't it?

 

They really do need to give him more nuance, I honestly think he could be a good example of Light is not Good.

 

Thinking in terms of broad MTG color definitions

Saradomin - White

Zamorak - Seems to be more pure red now, had some black tendencies in the past

Bandos - Red Green Black

Zaros - Blue Black

Seren - Green White

Armadyl - Blue White

Sliske - ??? He's either a Red Herring or the lore about him we got here is a tease.

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Armadyl? I'd have to say RED, WHITE AND BLUE!

 

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Justice, peace and freedom. The proud avianese represent them, soaring through the sky, delivering justice on the guilty. Equal opportunity, liberty and a fair chance at prosperity.

 

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My thoughts on the book's info

 

[spoiler=Armadyl]Armadyl's private diary of him wandering aimlessly to meditate on the death of the Aviansie. He walks around a lot, gets poked at by random insects, and feels weak (until the edicts are broken and he plans to return).

 

He said he was going to return home. Home =/= Gielinor. Nor does it mention the Edicts falling.

 

[spoiler=Bandos]Bandos sends letters to every single Goblin clan that follows him, telling them that all the other clans are stockpiling weapons and are plotting to defeat them. Informs them to stockpile weapons and prepare to fight the others. Essentially, he's smarter than he looks--he wants constant bloodshed, even if it means killing his own followers. He abuses the goblins' stupidity against them.

 

If you pay attention to the names, he doesn't do that at all. Though he is still douche.

Tribe 1 - Gets told off for making a big gold statue and told to tear it down and research weapons.

Tribe 2 - Gets told Tribe 1 are going against Bandos as they pulled the statue down and are making the weapons

Tribe 3 - Gets praised for smushing tribe 1 & 2 off their own initiative, after 1 and 2 had fought and stealing the weapons. Urged to cross the mountains and seas to fight more.

Tribe 4 - Get's reprimanded for trying to be diplomatic and refusing to fight Tribe 3 even after being given the same weapons tribe 3 has via tribe 1's work.

 

[spoiler=Saradomin]A bunch of Icyene quarrel a bit about farming and stuff but Saradomin steps in and tells them to fight for him. Apparently they would prefer to be peaceful, but Saradomin motivates them to war. What a jerk.

 

The Icyene are fighting rebels on their homeworld whilst Saradomin is away. A priest urges them to fight the rebels as Saradomin is finally returning (due to edicts). It's never a full out war and Saradomin never actually featured until the very end when he saved the writer from his depression.

 

[spoiler=Zaros]A chronicle of Zaros' followers before and during the God Wars. As the godwars started, his followers retreated to the wilderness fortresses. Most of them died during the God Wars, but those that remained stayed true. The last part is his most senior follower, who realizes Zaros' true purpose---when he returns, he won't care about his previous followers. He will take interest in whoever will best execute his plan. He has no care for loyalty. Ends in a VERY interesting quote--that she sees a throne in a realm of shadows, but that noone sits on it. She says that he is there--in the nothingness. The empty throne is occupied by him--for he is the Empty Lord and rules without directly influencing. Apparently it implies that he has no real physical form, and never has.

 

Not entirely true Zaros had ORIGINALLY surrounded himself with followers but was cast into the shadow realm by Zamorak stabby thing. The last follower realises Zaros has decided being surrounded by followers leads to betrayal so he is taking his control mantra further to be the unseen puppet behind everything utilising only a select few powerful allies. He still sent her a vision for being loyal and he hasn't abandoned anybody.

 

[spoiler=Sliske]A bunch of tales talking about how the Desert Gods fought for Zaros, commanded by the Mahjarrat. Sliske's fighting style is described a lot, and he is generally called shadowy and deceitful. Nothing much about his current plans

 

Seriously wtf did you read?

The entire story is about the Kharidians and their gods fighting AGAINST the Zarosian forces and *finally* making headway when Icthalrin returned with the 'Stern Judges' aka the Mahjaratt. Let us not forget after all the Mahjaratt came to Gielinor as devotees to the Desert Pantheon and later abandoned them for Zaros before splintering to Zamorak.

 

[spoiler=Seren]She and her followers originally came from a plane of Crystal (essentially giant crystal cities floating in space) Guthix forced her to leave the world when the Edicts were created--in a very angry way that had none of the love he once felt for her. She wanted only to protect her people and live without the influence of the warring gods--she had no part in the God Wars. She decides to comply with Guthix because of the love she still feels for him, and instead splits herself into billions of pieces of crystal to be used as weapons and tools by the elves. The elves want to bring all of these shards together to re-create her, or open the World Gate to go back to their world to try and summon her again. Seems like the most peaceful of the gods.

 

Seren did anything but comply with Guthix, she exploded herself to actively defy him as being 'dead' she could not be expelled. Notable the Elves have ideas of how she might be restored but that does not neccessarily gurantee it will work.

 

Added some comments because it bugged me how off base you readings were compared to what the books ACTUALLY say.

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*reading Book of Bandos*

 

Wow, Bandos is a douche.

But he is consistent, I appreciate that.

 

Saradomin is annoying, I actually find Zamorak more reasonable. Saradomin seems really Christian to me, a jealous god etc. - Zamorak would at least recognize that other gods simply took opportunities, even if he disagreed with the lot.

 

Also, Zaros as god of Fate, me likes. That's an important job.

 

On the map with worshippers, Meirditch is Saradominist. Interesting - apparently the vyre god is not the biggest there. Not surprising considering the numbers, but the power balance is definitely in favour of vyres.

 

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On the whole, the lore aspect seems unbalanced. It is hard to tell the difference between different gods sometimes. I read:

Bandos - War, fighting, basically for fun? Easy message, understood. Also the (physically?) strongest should rule, which is basically a non-policy where gods are concerned, because there's no way he can enforce that.

Seren - Hide away from trouble in an impregnable fortress/city. Understood. Protect followers - ok.

Godless - Gods go home. Understood. Protect ourselves.

Saradomin - Banish all other gods. Understood. Protect followers.

Zamorak - Go for what you want, do what you want, sort of individualistic, opportunistic philisophy. Understood.

Armadyl - Will protect everyone following him? That's what all the others promise as well.

Sliske - Uh... what? Unknown plans, questionable divinity.

Zaros - It's been preordained, but his plans are beyond us. Not war or destruction anyway.

 

The last three in particular are a big vague. The first five are good.

 

I'd point out a couple of flaws there:

Seren - Living in harmony with the world, give back more than you take, pacifist.

Armadyl - Promising same peace and order Sara and Zaros ultimately want but not uber tiered boss around ur lessers do what ur greaters say that Zaros wants and not the im the one and only ultimate power and you will live peacefully or ill smite you Sara wants more everyone has an equal role and puepose to make peace together.

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