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They could make the chat filter customizable - give everybody the ability to block certain words.
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They could make the chat filter customizable - give everybody the ability to block certain words.

That would defeat the entire purpose of the program

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They could make the chat filter customizable - give everybody the ability to block certain words.

That would defeat the entire purpose of the program


Is that necessarily a bad thing?

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Well, considering that the program does something good, yes.

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Well, considering that the program does something good, yes.


Considering the average runescape player is now 18+ are you sure?

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Well, considering that the program does something good, yes.


Considering the average runescape player is now 18+ are you sure?

Source needed and, why does it even matter so long as minors are playing the game?

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Well I mean

A program that doesn't get in the way of normal conversation

And prevents gold selling messages

And prevents serious flaming

Sounds pretty good

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The solution is simple;

Everyone just stops playing Runescape

Then we won't be able to hear naughty words by that particular medium

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They could make the chat filter customizable - give everybody the ability to block certain words.

That would defeat the entire purpose of the program

No? Everybody who cares can block the words they don't want to hear, and everyone who doesn't care can leave them visible. You start with a default option which is the current censor, so it doesn't even require any work for many people.

Of course the censor that mutes/bans people should be separate from the censor that stars words. If you give people that ability (to censor what they see), you don't need to have this automute for vulgarity.
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Of course the censor that mutes/bans people should be separate from the censor that stars words. If you give people that ability (to censor what they see), you don't need to have this automute for vulgarity.


^This, that is, I would that Jagex kept separate filters. They already do, or did have a separate filter for usernames that was stronger than the chat one.

The basic chat filter as I've seen it is pretty limited. It seems to be based on string values, i.e. it parses for strings of letters. I found that very frustrating if I happened to use a certain letter combination that Jagex was filtering. It'd be within perfectly clean and legitimate words, but because that letter combination came up, the filter would engage.

So understand, I'm concerned about Jagex's track record on the filter. I really do think that swearing and such should be left to the community to regulate as they desire-- I know some fc/cc's already do.

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They could make the chat filter customizable - give everybody the ability to block certain words.

That would defeat the entire purpose of the program

No? Everybody who cares can block the words they don't want to hear, and everyone who doesn't care can leave them visible. You start with a default option which is the current censor, so it doesn't even require any work for many people.

Of course the censor that mutes/bans people should be separate from the censor that stars words. If you give people that ability (to censor what they see), you don't need to have this automute for vulgarity.

So, I should block every variation of the hundreds of phrases that gold sellers use and I should block every way that someone could seriously flame me?

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If they waged an active campaign against obscenities, they should have removed the profanity filter toggle. But then again, recent updates (incl hidden) are done to demonstrate how lost jagex is. I wonder how many design, dev and qa employees actually know that there is a profanity filter toggle in runescape. The number probably converges to 0.

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From my research, all these spambots do is create many accounts, log in with one, auto-send roughly 100 messages at once, log off and never log back in with (continue with the next in pool). Neither muting nor banning is going to solve this problem and that is so obvious. But still, some people insist on working on features that do not work today and definitely will not start working in the future.

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If they waged an active campaign against obscenities, they should have removed the profanity filter toggle. But then again, recent updates (incl hidden) are done to demonstrate how lost jagex is. I wonder how many design, dev and qa employees actually know that there is a profanity filter toggle in runescape. The number probably converges to 0.

Also, I do not see how automated muting helps against buy cheap rs gold guaranteed rs gold delivery cheap rs gold 20m just $1 buy rs gold instant delivery rs walmart buy now cheaprsgold com you should buy rs gold now guaranteed delivery [...].
From my research, all these spambots do is create many accounts, log in with one, auto-send roughly 100 messages at once, log off and never log back in with (continue with the next in pool). Neither muting nor banning is going to solve this problem and that is so obvious. But still, some people insist on working on features that do not work today and definitely will not start working in the future.

As I said,
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Well, considering that the program does something good, yes.


Considering the average runescape player is now 18+ are you sure?

Source needed and, why does it even matter so long as minors are playing the game?


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Not too long ago I was prancing around in a zamorak outfit and saw a saradominist with a few of his friends at the GE. Jokingly I preach my book and before I know it I get a whole slew of curses thrown at me and that I shouldn't take this game so serious, he keeps ranting and ranting untill his brother returns which immediately takes action and starts apologizing to me and tells me he's a minor.

Moral of the story: kids are even worse and hiding and censoring doesn't change a thing. It's the attitude of the player, not a game filter.

I have fond memories of the wilderness fak u ghey nub u bser

so easy to get around filters.
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Jagex has now become fully Americanized. "We want to watch EVERYTHING you say or do."

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Well, considering that the program does something good, yes.


Considering the average runescape player is now 18+ are you sure?

Source needed and, why does it even matter so long as minors are playing the game?


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Not too long ago I was prancing around in a zamorak outfit and saw a saradominist with a few of his friends at the GE. Jokingly I preach my book and before I know it I get a whole slew of curses thrown at me and that I shouldn't take this game so serious, he keeps ranting and ranting untill his brother returns which immediately takes action and starts apologizing to me and tells me he's a minor.

Moral of the story: kids are even worse and hiding and censoring doesn't change a thing. It's the attitude of the player, not a game filter.

I have fond memories of the wilderness fak u ghey nub u bser

so easy to get around filters.

I don't see how that's at all relevant.

The counter argument to just about every thread on "policing" the Internet is that parents should be taking more responsibility for supervising what their children do or see on the Internet. Please, don't get me wrong; I fully agree with that argument. However, by removing the censor, you remove one of the precious few tools they could use to fulfill that role.

Which way do you want your toast buttered: do you want more hopelessly flawed attempts at Internet policing, or more measures which operate on a personal level like in-game chat filters?
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I can answer this for you ginger. Whether or not these policing tools are needed to better protect "the children", I dont know. What I do know is that this update is not something I am willing to put up with in a game.

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You and I both know that's a meaningless threat.

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Well I am already unsubbed and if i started again it would be exclusively for 07scape anyways. Updates like this really do make me lean towards not joining up again.

Would I quit over this otherwise? Probably not, unless maybe I got permamuted.

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I Got muted lol, and now I remember what it was for.
They should just leave it up to reports and stay the heck out of private chats.





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